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In theory, if Wonder Woman and an Avenger, in a normal moral state, were to battle one on one with equal desire to beat the other, how often would Diana win in the following match ups in a city battle location that is not New York (London for example).

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Wonder Woman vs She Hulk

Wonder Woman vs Iron Man

Wonder Woman vs Spiderman

Wonder Woman vs Thor (Keep in mind in some alternate verses she has lifted the hammer)

Wonder Woman vs Ms. Marvel

Wonder Woman vs Wolverine

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Stops at Thor, but stomps everyone else on the list unless there are special circumstances?

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#3  Edited By eternityx

@experio said:

Stops at Thor, but stomps everyone else on the list unless there are special circumstances?

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She loses to she hulk and thor, and beats everyone else.

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@blazinghell: It is more likely she goes down before Thor not only because he hits harder but due to durability, and her speed is cancelled by Thor's power which can easily surpass her tanking limit.

She loses to she hulk and thor, and beats everyone else.

How does she lose to She-hulk?

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giving Op has practically said she can lift the hammer, i say she could and should clear.

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#8  Edited By Experio

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giving Op has practically said she can lift the hammer, i say she could and should clear.

That was in a non-canon cross-over before battling Storm.

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#9  Edited By Kuffs

She easily beats all of them.

Thor is the only threat to her due to his damage output. However she also has an very impressive damage output. Plus speed. Plus meticulous training under the god of war. She clears.


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@kuffs said:
@blazinghell said:

She easily beats all of them.

Thor is the only threat to her due to his damage output. However she also has an very impressive damage output. Plus speed. Plus meticulous training under the god of war. She clears.

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@experio said:

@pierpat said:

giving Op has practically said she can lift the hammer, i say she could and should clear.

That was in a non-canon cross-over before battling Storm.

well, i know that, but op specifies we should consider that fact in this battle.

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Stops at Thor. Everyone else is a mismatch unless Capt. Marvel can go Binary.

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#13  Edited By Experio

@pierpat said:

@experio said:

@pierpat said:

giving Op has practically said she can lift the hammer, i say she could and should clear.

That was in a non-canon cross-over before battling Storm.

well, i know that, but op specifies we should consider that fact in this battle.

Consider the fact that she has lifted it, but not to assume she will lift it.

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#14  Edited By ZeroPlus

Stops at Thor maybe, stomps everyone else in the list. And can you explain please what are Wolverine and Spiderman doing here ?

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Clears

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#16  Edited By Carter_esque

She clears pretty easily actually.

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Most of the list are not in her weight class at all, rather well below. Only real fight is with Thor. I'd favor Thor because current Thor has impressed me much more than current WW.

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#18  Edited By Evil-Incarnate

Only threat here is Thor the rest are beneath her.

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her only problem is thor which she does have a chance at beating him, so she can clear if she can beat thor

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@experio said:

@carter_esque said:

She clears pretty easily actually.

How?

She's stronger than almost everyone on that list and the couple of fighters who match her strength (Thor and She-Hulk) are way too slow to keep up. She wouldn't have much difficulty clearing this except in her fight w/ the Asardian.

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Pre 52 stomps everyone except Thor whom she beats in a good fight.

New 52 beats everyone except maybe Thor. He could take a majority.

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@carter_esque: No doubt speed is an important factor in battle but does power not come to mind? Thor's signature Lightning could finish her off, even if their brawling at first, his durability will keep him up until he results to long range attacks after noticing her superiority in hand to hand. The Tiara will be the only real problem for him, but Mjolnir is even a bigger problem for her.

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Well Thor is only about a billion times slower than Wonder Woman, he has more durability I will grant you that but Wonder Woman constantly reflects Magic with her bracelets combine that with her speed and even if Thor was to get a chance to use his Magic on WW she would be able to dodge or deflect it.

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@experio said:

@carter_esque: No doubt speed is an important factor in battle but does power not come to mind? Thor's signature Lightning could finish her off, even if their brawling at first, his durability will keep him up until he results to long range attacks after noticing her superiority in hand to hand. The Tiara will be the only real problem for him, but Mjolnir is even a bigger problem for her.

True but he's gotta hit her. How's he gonna do that?

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#26  Edited By Valdemocnij

I dont see anyone here that can hurt her.... so... she beat all of them :)

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In boxing and UFC, and pretty much any kind of fighting the fighters are ranked not by how fast there supposed to be, how strong or tough there supposed to be but by the number of fights they have won and the people they have beaten, and who the people they beat have beaten. This is how u rank fighters it's all about who u beat and who they beat, not speculation. Based on this she hulk should beat her in a close match.

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She decimates all but the Odinson.

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what the heck is this?? more dc fans trying to make diana look good, i see. these guys are NOT in wonder womans league. only thor has a chance. but he sucks. make it hulk instead

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@experio said:

@carter_esque: No doubt speed is an important factor in battle but does power not come to mind? Thor's signature Lightning could finish her off, even if their brawling at first, his durability will keep him up until he results to long range attacks after noticing her superiority in hand to hand. The Tiara will be the only real problem for him, but Mjolnir is even a bigger problem for her.

True but he's gotta hit her. How's he gonna do that?

Wind or Lightning (possibly Omni-directional) covering wide range. And it can also get her by surprise when Thor summons it from the Sky.

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@moonman78: She Hulk doesnt stand a chance against Wonder Woman, even if we go by your logic. Wonder Woman has defeated tougher opponents.

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@experio said:

@carter_esque said:

@experio said:

@carter_esque: No doubt speed is an important factor in battle but does power not come to mind? Thor's signature Lightning could finish her off, even if their brawling at first, his durability will keep him up until he results to long range attacks after noticing her superiority in hand to hand. The Tiara will be the only real problem for him, but Mjolnir is even a bigger problem for her.

True but he's gotta hit her. How's he gonna do that?

Wind or Lightning (possibly Omni-directional) covering wide range. And it can also get her by surprise when Thor summons it from the Sky.

Is that enough to KO her though? I don't think so considering that her durability approaches Superman levels. Yo have to consider that she'd use her speed and lasso to her advantage and hog-tie him like she's done to so many ppl on panel.

In boxing and UFC, and pretty much any kind of fighting the fighters are ranked not by how fast there supposed to be, how strong or tough there supposed to be but by the number of fights they have won and the people they have beaten, and who the people they beat have beaten. This is how u rank fighters it's all about who u beat and who they beat, not speculation. Based on this she hulk should beat her in a close match.

This isn't a UFC match, it's a superhuman slugfest and the person who has the superior stats and feats wins. She-Hulk stands no chance against a Superman-level character and she has never proven otherwise.

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@experio said:

Stops at Thor, but stomps everyone else on the list unless there are special circumstances?

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#34  Edited By DeathandGrim

She clears this with one hand.

@experio said:

@carter_esque said:

@experio said:

@carter_esque: No doubt speed is an important factor in battle but does power not come to mind? Thor's signature Lightning could finish her off, even if their brawling at first, his durability will keep him up until he results to long range attacks after noticing her superiority in hand to hand. The Tiara will be the only real problem for him, but Mjolnir is even a bigger problem for her.

True but he's gotta hit her. How's he gonna do that?

Wind or Lightning (possibly Omni-directional) covering wide range. And it can also get her by surprise when Thor summons it from the Sky.

She can block Lighting and withstand it. And what's wind gonna do? She's able to resist the pull of black holes I don't think a gust is gonna do anything. Maybe flip her hair

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@carter_esque: His Lightning will prevent her from trying anything, but even if she Lasso's him. You have to consider the fact that Mjolnir obeys Thor as if it were living, so while his tied up, the hammer will be controlled at self-guidance attacking Wonder Woman from all sides of direction simultaneously until she's KOed. Mjolnir's speed > Diana's speed

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@deathandgrim: She cant block lightning as large as Thor's or wide for that matter and it can also catch her by surprise. Also, she did not resist the pull of a black hole - one scan she's using her Lasso as leverage, the other she's pulling Martian Manhunter while being further away (which is mostly strength then flight resistance). Unless there's a third instance?

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@experio said:

@carter_esque: His Lightning will prevent her from trying anything, but even if she Lasso's him. You have to consider the fact that Mjolnir obeys Thor as if it were living, so while his tied up, the hammer will be controlled at self-guidance attacking Wonder Woman from all sides of direction simultaneously until she's KOed. Mjolnir's speed > Diana's speed

lightning isnt hitting wonderwoman(shes too fast)and wind isnt going to do anything to her either. and youre ignoring the fact that before thor can conjur up the winds he'd have his head possibly chopped off by wonder woman

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Diana clears...easily.

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@teamhulkrunscomicvine: Lightning is hitting Wonder Woman, she's fast but how will she know its coming? And, your acting as if summoning wind takes minutes when its near instant.

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#40  Edited By Moonman78

@experio:

Lol no ww has not defeated tougher opponents than she hulk. Almost everybody here is saying Thor would beat Diana, while most are unaware that she hulk has actually knocked out Thor before.

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lightning isnt hitting wonderwoman(shes too fast)and wind isnt going to do anything to her either. and youre ignoring the fact that before thor can conjur up the winds he'd have his head possibly chopped off by wonder woman

She's been hit by lightning and KO'd in JL 16. That doesn't bode well when fighting Thor the God of Thunder.

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@experio said:

@teamhulkrunscomicvine: Lightning is hitting Wonder Woman, she's fast but how will she know its coming? And, your acting as if summoning wind takes minutes when its near instant.

no. its not. and if you think it is then you have no idea who wonder woman is or what she does. Plain and simple. Im not acting as if summoning winds is going to take minutes. Im simply "acting" logically and telling you that however long it takes for thor to do it(seconds) is too long. Before he did that he could possibly have his head chopped off.

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#43  Edited By Experio

@moonman78: You are referring to the instance she attacked him of-guard and betrayed him in the process correct? A feat that cant be held accountable simply because Wonder Woman will be facing her,

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lightning isnt hitting wonderwoman(shes too fast)and wind isnt going to do anything to her either. and youre ignoring the fact that before thor can conjur up the winds he'd have his head possibly chopped off by wonder woman

She's been hit by lightning and KO'd in JL 16. That doesn't bode well when fighting Thor the God of Thunder.

PIS. Thor's been knocked out by she hulk. you dont see me using PIS like you. Nor am I bringing up other instances of PIS where Thor gets beat.

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@deathandgrim: she didnt block it withstand the lightning from Ocean Masters Trident and when has she dealt with a black hole?

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PIS. Thor's been knocked out by she hulk. you dont see me using PIS like you. Nor am I bringing up other instances of PIS where Thor gets beat.

Simply stating "PIS" doesn't add any value to the discussion at all. Bringing up instances where WW is struck by lightning and her durability with such strikes is extremely relevant in a fight like this.

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#47  Edited By Experio

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@teamhulkrunscomicvine: Lightning is hitting Wonder Woman, she's fast but how will she know its coming? And, your acting as if summoning wind takes minutes when its near instant.

no. its not. and if you think it is then you have no idea who wonder woman is or what she does. Plain and simple. Im not acting as if summoning winds is going to take minutes. Im simply "acting" logically and telling you that however long it takes for thor to do it(seconds) is too long. Before he did that he could possibly have his head chopped off.

I know full well of Diana's capabilities, but you should be smart enough to know Wind is around her. A whirl of the hammer and the force will take her, I used to underestimate her until statements and scans acknowledged by ancient of days.

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#48  Edited By 18hunt

@teamhulkrunscomicvine: SHUT UP THOR IS MORE POWERFUL THAN HULK, AND IF YOU BELIEVE NOT ID GO AGAINST YOU IN A CAV ANYDAY. YOU ARE A HUGE FANBOY. I WAS JUST LIKE YOU WHEN I STARTED COMICVINE, ARROGANT AND COCKY. BUT ILL SHOW YOU, PEOPLE WITH THE RIGHT KNOWLEDGE SHOWED ME THE LIGHT. JUST BE QUIET ABOUT YOUR FANBOY-ISM

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#50  Edited By Carter_esque

@teamhulkrunscomicvine said:

@experio said:

@teamhulkrunscomicvine: Lightning is hitting Wonder Woman, she's fast but how will she know its coming? And, your acting as if summoning wind takes minutes when its near instant.

no. its not. and if you think it is then you have no idea who wonder woman is or what she does. Plain and simple. Im not acting as if summoning winds is going to take minutes. Im simply "acting" logically and telling you that however long it takes for thor to do it(seconds) is too long. Before he did that he could possibly have his head chopped off.

She wouldn't go for the kill unless she was blood-lusted so your "head-chopping" method is off the table unfortunately.

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@teamhulkrunscomicvine: Lightning is hitting Wonder Woman, she's fast but how will she know its coming? And, your acting as if summoning wind takes minutes when its near instant.

It's not fast enough to stop an FTL blitz from WW. She's fast enough to dodge most of Thor's attacks and her striking power will wear on him. Additionally, I doubt that she'll give him the time he needs to summon lightening. Even if it's omnidirectional, it's possible that WW might be able to block it w/ her bracelets.