@boringperson: a far more likely conclusion is the gamma burst.
If it is, then doesn't that reduce the quality of WBH's striking quite harshly?
I mean, I always assumed his world breaking feat was a result of his striking + Red Shulk's striking... if it's just a combined gamma explosion when WBH has pretty mediocre striking feats as compared to even WWH imo.
How? Was WBH striking the planet itself? No, he collided in mid air with Betty. We don't know much about WBHs striking feats itself he hasn't hit anyone outside a being equal to him. We do know that a single step from him while holding back was enough to threaten an entire continent. So i would guess a morals off punch from him would be lethal to many powerhouses.
Doesn't that make his striking basically completely speculative then?
That's... a weird thing to think about. I guess at some point I'll end up heckling dailybagel about it in some thread someday. :P
Not completely since like i said a single footstep while holding back threatens continents a serious punch is easily a planet buster that's why no one really disproves it. Though your friend over here goes even further and suggests Hulks punches just incinerate all planets and everything on them.
@atheistknowledge: its comics. You youreself just said that as an excuse to why gamma rays are red and green. but yet you try to now add science to this feat to fit your vision. Too bad, so sad. Its a pathetic attempt at best. The fact remains that ive fully debunked this silly idea of a gamma burst that has zero proof. Ive shown step by step why its not a gamma burst. ive shown step by step why the collision is what generated the shockwave that started destroying the planet. Nothing else was produced by this collision. The sockwave is white even, meanwhile their gamma is green and red. Then i went out of my way to show a video from a Professor at a university talking about how something as small as 2 little metal balls causing enough heat for paper to burn, let alone 2 class 100,000 tonners punching eachother and colliding. Drop the ego. Its not about that. Its about what right, and Im the one whos right. Its ok to be wrong. Keep your head up.
I did not just ask for science? I also asked you for any comic feats that show 2 powerful beings colliding and causing a shock wave that incinerates things around them? We have countless of those but unless they are already releasing some form of energy(like in the case of WBH and Betty) i never saw any incineration with friction alone. It also wouldn't make much sense seeing as how much gamma energy they where release and seeing as we know when Hulk was taking steps that almost broke the continent we saw gamma energies coming from them breaking the ground itself. You haven't debunked anything, you can keep going around with your Dunning-Krugger in full throttle but it doesn't change FACTS. 2 metal balls colliding and burning a piece of papper =/= two 8 feet tall beings colliding and burning an entire planet. Also where do you get the 100 000 tonner part? LOL. You also disregard the following scans that show the 2 of them just punching each other(not even colliding) and still causing the same effect of incinerating everyone and the entire planet, simply because it's gamma radiation and not shockwaves. But even then i dunno why you think it would change anything much because it would just prove that a single punch from WBH is enough to cause a shockwave that incinerates a planet. Though it's still a gamma burst.
The burden is on you to show that it doesnt happen anywhere else.
The shockwave is what was caused by them colliding/punching.
Hulks gamma was green.
Rshehulks gamma was red.
The shockwave that was produced from them colliding/punching rightfully was neither color because it had nothing to do with gamma.
2 tinymetal balls show that even those tiny objects with that small of a collision produce heat. Let alone 2 massively powerful monsters. Surprised I had to explain that one.
Where do i get the 100,000 tonners phrase from? Welcome to comics, both hulks are capable of lifting massive ships with ease(they weigh over 100,000 tons) welcome to comicvine by the way, i just saw your post count. You'll like it here.
Those are all my points. Now, you obviously feel differently. Please actually try to show why your view is right and mine is wrong since you havent refuted any of my points nor have you posted anything what so ever to back up your points. ANd please try to stay away from science since 1. comics arent written by scientists and 2, the laws of physics and science are routinely disregarded. As shown by the hulking green monster who gets his power from a different dimension even though he has no access to it and then that energy is manifested through his rage which allows him to do things such as emmitting gamma rays. That and talking squirrels etc, etc, etc, you do get the point right?
LOOOOOOOOOOL, i am suppose to show you that it doesn't happen anywhere else? You really don't know how the burden of proof works? Ok how about when ION and Superboy Prime collided you should be familiar with that instance, right Sodam Yat? Nobody got incinerated. Now your turn?(i have many more to come).
There sure is a shockwave but it's not what's incinerating the planet. Trust me a random theory you just came up a few posts ago debating with thedailybagel is not debunking something every expert has agreed on for several years already.
Of course it was neither color it got mixed.
The no limit fallacy? 2 small objects charring a small piece of papper? Is equivalent to 2 beings completely engulfing and incinerated everything on the planet that is millions of times bigger then them?
Lifting massive ships with ease? When was the last time they did that? This is not Aquaman. Green Scar has preformed feats in quintilion ton ranges already, without ever being WBH. Oh i have a feeling i will love it here.
I already did refute them, you have yet to actually prove that it's the shockwaves themselves that cause the incineration. You do realize you are also using science to back up your claims? I am not using exact science nor do i follow it blindly here. I dunno why you are panicking everyone knows these are comics they use pseudo-science all the time even though they try to use exact science a lot of the times.
But again let's say i agree with you, so are you saying that mere punches from WBH cause enough shockwaves to incinerate an entire planet?
Yes, the burden of proof is on you since you disagreed. If you disagree, you have to prove it.
The shockwave was created from the collission and there is nothing else that hints at anything else being the cause for the destruction of the planet.
the gamma rays were red and green yet the collisioin was white and not yellow as it should have been if, if, it were anythign to do with gamma rays, which its not.
again, yes, the 2 tiny metal balls with a small collisions cause paper to burn. upgrade that to monsters that have destroyed asteroids the size of earth(hulk) and yes thats what the author clearly is telling us happened, the shockwave from them colliding destroyed the planet. obviously
man, i hate explaining things to new guys, 100,000 tonners is a level handed out to those above 100,000 tons. you can lift 6 sextillion tons and still be called a 100,000 tonner. hell, most people here just call them 100 tonners or class 100. Youre welcome for explaining that to you newbie. Yes, im sure you will love it. it provides tons of info for newbies. Not that im using that term in a derogatory way.
No, actually, you havnt refuted anything. you have not even tried really.
of course i realize im using science, do you know why? cause you tried lying and saying that collisions dont cause incineration. and i posted proof showing that was a flat out lie.
Glad we all know science isnt to be taken too seriously into account when reading comics. Cheers.
Your logic is flawless, so i say there is a pink unicorn in the sky the burden of proof falls to you since you have to disprove. Are you trolling?
Really? Nothing indicates? All the omnidirectional gamma burst that WBH always gives off is no indication? LOL.
Actually it looks more yellow then white, just magnify the picture and where does it say that shockwaves are white?
You know that Hulk destroying that asteroid is considered PIS? Even by Hulk fans? Grey Hulk is not that strong.
Really? Why is that then that i never saw ANYONE else using the term 100 000 tonners and just using their respective strength? Superman is a 100k tonner even though he lifted the Earth for 5 days? I never saw anyone say that. You can keep your "newbie stuff" to yourself. And the 100 tonner part is also not used since it's misleading it is mostly used to those that struggles with those actual weights. Oh i am sure there is nothing derogatory behind your motives.
I did actually because you haven't proved anything in the first place, all you have at best are theories that aren't as good as the ones that EVERYONE ELSE is already using.
I never said that collision between 2 objects doesn't cause heat? I asked you where are the shockwaves that cause heat to burn an entire planet when 2 beings collide. And again you are avoiding the question if WBH is so strong that his punches cause shockwaves that incinerate planets what difference does it really make in the end? In fact if anything it makes him more powerful.
Unfortunately neither is common sense.
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