Who wins????
WW easy. She is faster, stronger, better fighter, and just all around better.
But according to the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, "Wonder Man's ionic energy permeated body possesses greatly enhanced strength, durability, reflexes, and stamina; he can lift in excess of 100 tons, is impervious to virtually any form of penetration wound, and does not tire. He does not require food, water or air and does not age." and so on. So how could WW beat someone like that???
"But according to the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, "Wonder Man's ionic energy permeated body possesses greatly enhanced strength, durability, reflexes, and stamina; he can lift in excess of 100 tons, is impervious to virtually any form of penetration wound, and does not tire. He does not require food, water or air and does not age." and so on. So how could WW beat someone like that???She is faster , stronger, and a much better fighter.
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"Meteorite said:I meant give an example"But according to the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, "Wonder Man's ionic energy permeated body possesses greatly enhanced strength, durability, reflexes, and stamina; he can lift in excess of 100 tons, is impervious to virtually any form of penetration wound, and does not tire. He does not require food, water or air and does not age." and so on. So how could WW beat someone like that???She is faster , stronger, and a much better fighter.
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"Alpha said:An example of her speed, strength and fighting prowness?"Meteorite said:I meant give an example"But according to the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, "Wonder Man's ionic energy permeated body possesses greatly enhanced strength, durability, reflexes, and stamina; he can lift in excess of 100 tons, is impervious to virtually any form of penetration wound, and does not tire. He does not require food, water or air and does not age." and so on. So how could WW beat someone like that???She is faster , stronger, and a much better fighter.
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"Alpha said:Examples"Meteorite said:I meant give an example"But according to the Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe, "Wonder Man's ionic energy permeated body possesses greatly enhanced strength, durability, reflexes, and stamina; he can lift in excess of 100 tons, is impervious to virtually any form of penetration wound, and does not tire. He does not require food, water or air and does not age." and so on. So how could WW beat someone like that???She is faster , stronger, and a much better fighter.
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These people actualy believe every DC top tier on earth can beat every Marvel top tier on earth. Wonder Woman is not going to beat Wonderman and she don't out class him, only in speed, Wonderman is stronger than her and more durabile and he has more range he would win.
"WW easy. She is faster, stronger, better fighter, and just all around better.
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"Been done. Wonderman doesn't have a chance. "
"These people actualy believe every DC top tier on earth can beat every Marvel top tier on earth. Wonder Woman is not going to beat Wonderman and she don't out class him, only in speed, Wonderman is stronger than her and more durabile and he has more range he would win."No, not every DC top tier can defeat their Marvel oppersite but in many cases, the DC character is substantially more powerful.
"SeSAW said:"These people actualy believe every DC top tier on earth can beat every Marvel top tier on earth. Wonder Woman is not going to beat Wonderman and she don't out class him, only in speed, Wonderman is stronger than her and more durabile and he has more range he would win."No, not every DC top tier can defeat their Marvel oppersite but in many cases, the DC character is substantially more powerful.
Their various feats (the consistent ones that you also prefer to look at - you mentioned this) show this to be true.
Wonder Woman defeated Marvel's Hercules in the JLA/Avengers crossover.
Hercules beat Wonderman.
WW wins.
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You can't really say because that character beat that character, he can also beat that character. That being said, i'd still give WW the win."That made little sense but for this case the 'he beats him, so she beats him' argument is reasonably valid as the nature of their powers is pretty close. All physical (little energy projection as Wonder Man has not shown this ability recently) so it mostly comes down to speed, strength, endurance, durability and fighting skill.
Haha, yes it did came out a little bit different then i intented, but i think the point has come across :)
Anyway i'd say there is a significant difference between the characters, flight and eyebeams (energy projection), even though Wonder Man hasn't really shown this ability recently doesn't mean he can't and won't use it. He has been treated as a second rate character lately so it's really no surprise they don't show that power very often.
"Haha, yes it did came out a little bit different then i intented, but i think the point has come across :)I think I understand Wonder Man quite well.
Anyway i'd say there is a significant difference between the characters, flight and eyebeams (energy projection), even though Wonder Man hasn't really shown this ability recently doesn't mean he can't and won't use it. He has been treated as a second rate character lately so it's really no surprise they don't show that power very often."
"Precise said:Well Wonderman has also knocked out thor and even if the Avengers Jla is cannon, its not like she actually was beating Herc down. She had the upper hand true, but its not like she was able to Ko or BFR him. A wins a win but if they went one on one toe to toe it might be different, in which I doubt that can be considered cannon anyway. Oh by the way Creator when did Hercules beat Wonderman.You can't really say because that character beat that character, he can also beat that character. That being said, i'd still give WW the win."That made little sense but for this case the 'he beats him, so she beats him' argument is reasonably valid as the nature of their powers is pretty close. All physical (little energy projection as Wonder Man has not shown this ability recently) so it mostly comes down to speed, strength, endurance, durability and fighting skill.
This argumant does not hold when the combatants have different aspects to their powers.
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Well Wonderman has also knocked out thor and even if the Avengers Jla is cannon, its not like she actually was beating Herc down. She had the upper hand true, but its not like she was able to Ko or BFR him. A wins a win but if they went one on one toe to toe it might be different, in which I doubt that can be considered cannon anyway. Oh by the way Creator when did Hercules beat Wonderman.WW was carrying a KO'ed Herc from the pictures I think.
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"Precise said:"Haha, yes it did came out a little bit different then i intented, but i think the point has come across :)I think I understand Wonder Man quite well.
Anyway i'd say there is a significant difference between the characters, flight and eyebeams (energy projection), even though Wonder Man hasn't really shown this ability recently doesn't mean he can't and won't use it. He has been treated as a second rate character lately so it's really no surprise they don't show that power very often."
Strength approaching that of Thor (classic), vast endurance, massively durable, can fly (at low speeds - compared to some - as strongly hinted at in Mighty Avengers), has shown in the past the ability to fire energy blasts (of recent when his physical form was more purple coloured ionic energy based), slightly superhuman reaction speed and reasonable brawler hand to hand skills.
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"SeSAW said:No she had Herc in a choke hold and she was telling everyone to back off, but herc was not KOed. As far as Hurc and Wonderman goes herc is stronger, but Wonderman is hella strong also not too much below him, there about equal in durability, with hurc having a very slight advantange but Wonderman ionic powers give him a powerful range attack so id give him the win.Well Wonderman has also knocked out thor and even if the Avengers Jla is cannon, its not like she actually was beating Herc down. She had the upper hand true, but its not like she was able to Ko or BFR him. A wins a win but if they went one on one toe to toe it might be different, in which I doubt that can be considered cannon anyway. Oh by the way Creator when did Hercules beat Wonderman.WW was carrying a KO'ed Herc from the pictures I think.
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My bad. My quote (which I typed to fast without proof reading) should have said "Hercules would beat Wonder Man".
Reasoning is that Herc is stronger, as durable or even more so (to blows), has greater endurance and is a far better hand to hand fighter.
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As far as Hurc and Wonderman goes herc is stronger, but Wonderman is hella strong also not too much below him, there about equal in durability, with hurc having a very slight advantange but Wonderman ionic powers give him a powerful range attack so id give him the win...........
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"Nobody said:Cause he knocked out Thor and taken out Hulk?"WW easy. She is faster, stronger, better fighter, and just all around better.
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Alpha said:"Been done. Wonderman doesn't have a chance. "
You know Wonder Man in his heyday at his peak has knocked out Thor, Taken on the Hulk and had some very awsome feats! Unfortunately, he's been let go over the years and relegated to almost second stringer, but if we take both fighters at their best/peak, then it's anyones game!"
"Yeah even though he never beat Hulk before WM is powerful enough to take on Hulk and most of the Marvel earth Heavy weights."Yes he can take them on as he is in that 'weight division' but he is infeiror to Hercules.
The Thing is not in Hercules weight class either.
Has Wonder Man used energy blasts, chaged his size etc in recent issues of Might Avengers, since he took on his old look ?
Wonder Woman is faster and more skilled in battle she kills wonder man.
"the creator said:Post scans..."The Thing is not in Hercules weight class either.
Has Wonder Man used energy blasts, chaged his size etc in recent issues of Might Avengers, since he took on his old look ?"
Yes he has."
He did when he was fighting Ultron but that won`t be enough against Diana
"But his strength and durability will."
Not gonna say any names, but after the past few debates regarding Wonder Woman and other characters, someone is obviously a Wonder Woman hater, more than likely because it's a woman. Anyway, Wonder Woman wins this for the simple fact that she outclasses Wonder Man in everything.
Wonder Man has never done anything on Wonder Woman's level....
"I don't know you tell me."We've already done that. Multiple times. Pretty much pointless, don't you think? We can't defeat your ignorance if it doesn't want to be defeated....
Oh by the way Creator when did Hercules beat Wonderman.
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"SeSAW said:Yep. He did, didn't he.Oh by the way Creator when did Hercules beat Wonderman.
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Incredible Hercules, he beated without any problem both Ares and Wonderman"
One thing bothers me about dc. I like Wonder woman and superman, but they have ridiculous strength and feats. Pulling the earth? Who in all of marveldom has done that, lol. In all honesty, they are practically unbeatable. As for wonder woman, she can be shot and cut right? Her durability is no where near wondermans (almost diamond hard). I would give WW the win because she is a great warrior though.
"Not gonna say any names, but after the past few debates regarding Wonder Woman and other characters, someone is obviously a Wonder Woman hater, more than likely because it's a woman. Anyway, Wonder Woman wins this for the simple fact that she outclasses Wonder Man in everything.
Wonder Man has never done anything on Wonder Woman's level....
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"One thing bothers me about dc. I like Wonder woman and superman, but they have ridiculous strength and feats. Pulling the earth? Who in all of marveldom has done that, lol. In all honesty, they are practically unbeatable. As for wonder woman, she can be shot and cut right? Her durability is no where near wondermans (almost diamond hard). I would give WW the win because she is a great warrior though."She annihilated Superman, and if you pair up Superman against Wonderman who do you think wins quicker than a heartbeat?
With her magic lasso and im stil sad that Ms Invisible didnt post it in her rant :(
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