Wonder Man vs Captain Mar-Vell

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#1  Edited By Hadrelius
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#2  Edited By Light

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#3  Edited By Hadrelius
Light said:
"Marvel"
How so?

Wonderman is stronger and I feel more durable.
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#4  Edited By xXi0RIXx

Strength dosnt necessarily matter

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#5  Edited By Light

cosmic awareness thats why he wins

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#6  Edited By Hadrelius
Light said:
"cosmic awareness thats why he wins"

That didn't help him much against other opponents.  
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#7  Edited By Light
Alpha said:
"Light said:
"cosmic awareness thats why he wins"

That didn't help him much against other opponents.  "
it will in this fight... it like a lesser version of midnighters mental computer
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#8  Edited By Scarlet Thor

Mar Vell can blow planets Wonderman can't

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#9  Edited By SeSAW

Wonderman is very strong but cap won't let his strength come into play to much.

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marvel

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Light said:
"Alpha said:
"Light said:
"cosmic awareness thats why he wins"

That didn't help him much against other opponents.  "
it will in this fight... it like a lesser version of midnighters mental computer"
I have never seen act like that before.
Here's some info on it from the OHOTMU,

"The exact nature and scope of the "cosmic awareness" granted to Mar-Vell by Eon have never been clearly defined. Apparently it enabled him to sense the presence of beings and objects in the universe that were somehow of importance to him for whatever reason. It may be somewhat comparable to Spider-Man's spider-sense and to Mantis's awareness of psychic "vibrations," but its scope was far greater than either."

He has used it to guide him to people or places from across space and he has also used it to discerne when things / reality was wrong.

SeSAW said:
"Wonderman is very strong but cap won't let his strength come into play to much."

How will Cap prevent it ?

If you go strictly by Marvel's figures, Wonder Man is approx 6.7 times stronger than Capt Mar-vell.
He is far more durable and has faster reactions (superhuman vs enhanced human according to the OHOTMU)

Cap can fly faster, has energy blasts that have damaged powerhouse characters before (like the Hulk) and is a better hand to hand fighter.

But overall, I don't see him winning this battle.
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#14  Edited By geodoc

Venom, is that Vanguard as your avatar.  If so, do you know who he is?

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#15  Edited By the creator
venom hybrid said:
"http://en.marveldatabase.com/Mar-Vell_%28Earth-616%29#Powers_and_Abilities

Just look at mar-vells powers"
That site's content can be written by anyone.

The most recent published OHOTMU (late last year I think), put Mar-vell still at 15 tonnes and clearly did not indicate the ability to destroy planets.
His durability was also not as high as Wonder Man's.
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#16  Edited By venom hybrid

No it's a drawing of Captain. America i found

 

And i've heard a lot of people dismiss things from that OHOTMU becuase it contradicts things that have happened in the comics.

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venom hybrid said:

And i've heard a lot of people dismiss things from that OHOTMU becuase it contradicts things that have happened in the comics.

At least it's a published source.
A person who knows nothing about any of the characters can log on to web sites and start writing updates as they please.
If they look plausible to a layman, then they can be updated.

Not every 'fact' in the OHOTMU are correct.

Take for instance the temperatures that Wonder Man can survive. They are way too low in the handbook to what he has been shown to take.

However I would tryust to the handbook first before a sites content as the source of the info for the handbook is known (Marvel writers).


 

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#18  Edited By geodoc

Thanks for stating that about wonderman creator.  WM has survived way worse than what the handbook indicates.  Everytime he tangles with thor, thor is shown losing until he uses mjolnir.  He has also frequently gone blow for blow with the hulk.

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Wonder Man should take this. He has the power to overcome CM's attacks while pressing his own. Remember this guy onced laid out Thor.

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#20  Edited By ecsnclr

Is Mar-Vell dead again yet ?

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#21  Edited By Hyperion322

This is an awesome match! While Captain Marvel has a much higher degree of combat experience, possibly speed, and agility ... yeah Wonder Man is pretty much unstoppable.

Wonder Man wins!

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#22  Edited By King_Saturn
I think Wonder Man can beat Mar-Vell. It would be a good fight though
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#23  Edited By The_Martian

Wonder Man far outclasses Mar-Vell in strength. Wonder Man is at 100 tons + while Mar-Vell is only at 15  tons. Strength wise, Mar-Vell shouldn't be able to hurt Wonder Man. With his energy attacks he might beable to casue damage, but I doubt its enough.

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#24  Edited By King_Saturn
Nobody said:
"Wonder Man far outclasses Mar-Vell in strength. Wonder Man is at 100 tons + while Mar-Vell is only at 15  tons. Strength wise, Mar-Vell shouldn't be able to hurt Wonder Man. With his energy attacks he might beable to casue damage, but I doubt its enough."
I think you are right
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#25  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Wonder Man.

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#26  Edited By Nitric
Alpha said:
"Light said:
"cosmic awareness thats why he wins"

That didn't help him much against other opponents.  "
Like all the people he's beaten including: Namor, the Thing, Thanos, Annihilus, Ronan, Drax, Super-Adaptoid, Nitro, Iron Man, Quicksilver, the Vision, Scarlet Witch, and arguably even did great against the Hulk.


Nope. It's never helped  him before...
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#27  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
ecsnclr said:
"Is Mar-Vell dead again yet ?"
He can't be dead again because he never came back.


SeSAW said:
"Wonderman is very strong but cap won't let his strength come into play to much."
Don't be retarded.
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Nitric said:
"Alpha said:
"Light said:
"cosmic awareness thats why he wins"

That didn't help him much against other opponents.  "
Like all the people he's beaten including: Namor, the Thing, Thanos, Annihilus, Ronan, Drax, Super-Adaptoid, Nitro, Iron Man, Quicksilver, the Vision, Scarlet Witch, and arguably even did great against the Hulk.


Nope. It's never helped  him before..."
Why do yo think Cosmic Awareness" won those battles?
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Because in a fight, he anticipates your every move, and he doesn't let the awareness consume him, thus showing his grasp.

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@Mar-Vell Liberation Front said:
"Because in a fight, he anticipates your every move, and he doesn't let the awareness consume him, thus showing his grasp. "
That explains all the time's Mar-vell got punched and beaten up then........
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@the creator said:
"@Mar-Vell Liberation Front said:
"Because in a fight, he anticipates your every move, and he doesn't let the awareness consume him, thus showing his grasp. "
That explains all the time's Mar-vell got punched and beaten up then........"

LMAO...
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#32  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Wonder Man.

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@Secret Turchin Man said:
"@the creator said:
"@Mar-Vell Liberation Front said:
"Because in a fight, he anticipates your every move, and he doesn't let the awareness consume him, thus showing his grasp. "
That explains all the time's Mar-vell got punched and beaten up then........"
LMAO... "

Yeah, cause that's how they write comics...you see you need the drama of "is he gonna win?" Captain Marvel would destroy Wonder Man.
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@Mar-Vell Liberation Front said:
"@Secret Turchin Man said:
"@the creator said:
"@Mar-Vell Liberation Front said:
"Because in a fight, he anticipates your every move, and he doesn't let the awareness consume him, thus showing his grasp. "
That explains all the time's Mar-vell got punched and beaten up then........"
LMAO... "
Yeah, cause that's how they write comics...you see you need the drama of "is he gonna win?" Captain Marvel would destroy Wonder Man."
Yeah it's a damn shame that Mar-vell showed that ability so very very rarely.

Anyway Wonderman for the win.
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No, it explains how his grasp of the awareness was growing over time if you read the original series and it most certainly shows how he defeats Wonder Man.
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#36  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Wonder Man wins easily.Probably in one punch.

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@Mar-Vell Liberation Front said:

"No, it explains how his grasp of the awareness was growing over time if you read the original series and it most certainly shows how he defeats Wonder Man. "


Feel like we are a little light on those pesky facts again. 
They do so get in the way of making an argument.