Assuming basic forms of each character I'm going with Wolv-Spider. Spidey out strengths, speeds, agility Cap and KO's him while Wolv tanks a royal beating from the sky. But once Spidey pulls Iron down the they win.
So what can Cap do to Wolverine? What can Iron Man do to wolverine? temporarily put him down at the very best. Spiderman physically over powers Cap with ease. If Wolverine gets Iron Man on the ground, he's done. Neither, in basic form, could kill Wolverine. Spiderman and Wolverine take this 8/10
So what can Cap do to Wolverine? What can Iron Man do to wolverine? temporarily put him down at the very best. Spiderman physically over powers Cap with ease. If Wolverine gets Iron Man on the ground, he's done. Neither, in basic form, could kill Wolverine. Spiderman and Wolverine take this 8/10
The only thing I agree with in your rant was about Spider-Man and Wolverine beating Cap. Everything else is hilariously false. The OP never said that the battle was to the death. It says death OR K.O. So killing isn't the only option. If either of them gets incapacitated, it counts as a win too. Not that it matters, it's not that hard to kill Wolverine. All you need to do is cut off his brain from oxygen.
Hell, Wolverine even killed his son that way. By drowning him.
It won't be that hard to cut off oxygen from Wolverine's brain. Especially since he's done it before.
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Wolverine is not getting Iron Man on the ground, that's just ridiculous. Even if you did ground Iron Man for this fight, he could still stomp both Spider-Man and Wolverine at the same time. Especially Wolverine.
@noone301994: Spiderman has fought and restrained Iron Man before. My mistake for not seeing the "K.O". Spiderman can bring iron man to the ground. Wolverine can pierce his armor. Cap is first one out in this fight. Iron man cant beat either before the other beats cap. Then its Wolverine and Spiderman against Iron Man. Spiderman is at the minimum on par with Iron man, all factors considered. Wolverine ha 8/10 Spidey and Wolverine.
As for wolverine dying, as long as he has his healing factor he will heal, unless bested by Lazaer
Lol, im tude ti speak, but i honestly...think team one might win, lmao i mean...if its down too ironman vs wolverine vs spiderman, i think they could win, but i wouldnt debate. Ill openly listen to more views
Spiderman has fought and restrained Iron Man before. My mistake for not seeing the "K.O". Spiderman can bring iron man to the ground. Wolverine can pierce his armor. Cap is first one out in this fight. Iron man cant beat either before the other beats cap. Then its Wolverine and Spiderman against Iron Man. Spiderman is at the minimum on par with Iron man, all factors considered. Wolverine ha 8/10 Spidey and Wolverine.
Spider-Man is nowhere near Iron Man's level. Everytime Spider-Man has beaten Iron Man it has been extreme PIS. If Spider-Man and Iron Man went up against each other, realistically, this would happen again:
Or this:
Okay, so since we're ignoring the fact that Iron Man could just magnetize Wolverine, let's look at the fact that Wolverine couldn't pierce Iron Man's shields. In that scan you showed of Wolverine slashing Tony's armor away, there was context. Black Panther had used his technology to disable his shields.
If he hadn't, something like this would have happened:
His claws would bounce right off of Iron Man's shields.
As for wolverine dying, as long as he has his healing factor he will heal, unless bested by Lazaer
I love how you completely ignored my scans and logic of Wolverine being able to get drowned. It worked on his son you know:
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Just in case you didn't know, Daken had the same healing factor as Logan.
What exactly is wolverine going to do while Spidey one punches Cap then proceeds to rip Tony's armor to shreds?
Yeah...Spidey is not getting away with that.
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You do realize that Peter in the comics has done exactly what I said on 2 different occasions. unless tony can figure out a way to keep Peter's hands from sticking to the metal of his armor he's toast, and Tony doesn't have any weapons that can touch Peter... Spidey Solos.
@chuckwolf: Dude I love Spider-Man but it would not go down like that, you are overrating Spider-Man,be rational before you make a decision
I'm not overrating him a bit, just going by past feats.. he's beaten Iron-man twice before by ripping his armor off him, sure once was Arno Stark from the future, but still he's done it. Sure the armor makes Tony stronger, but both Cap and Tony are at least 40 times slower, and I'm sorry Cap as great is he is is no match physically for Spidey.
This isn't like he hasn't fought them before, yes Peter has lost to Cap before, but that was due to hero worship and not wanting to actually hurt his Idol. if it was a real fight he'd take Cap down in less time than it takes cap to realize Peter hit him.
And like I said before.. Tony has no weapons that can touch Peter before he gets torn to shreads, unless tony has the forethougth to build a suit of adamantium armor... because Peter can even rip carbonadium that thin apart.
@chuckwolf: Dude I love Spider-Man but it would not go down like that, you are overrating Spider-Man,be rational before you make a decision
I'm not overrating him a bit, just going by past feats.. he's beaten Iron-man twice before by ripping his armor off him, sure once was Arno Stark from the future, but still he's done it. Sure the armor makes Tony stronger, but both Cap and Tony are at least 40 times slower, and I'm sorry Cap as great is he is is no match physically for Spidey.
This isn't like he hasn't fought them before, yes Peter has lost to Cap before, but that was due to hero worship and not wanting to actually hurt his Idol. if it was a real fight he'd take Cap down in less time than it takes cap to realize Peter hit him.
And like I said before.. Tony has no weapons that can touch Peter before he gets torn to shreads, unless tony has the forethougth to build a suit of adamantium armor... because Peter can even rip carbonadium that thin apart.
Have you seen Ironman's last few Armors? First off neither Peter or Logan are ripping anything off while Tony's forcefield's are up. Even if they are down the last few armors are completely modular and each piece flys back to Tony on command. His last armor before Secret Wars was a fusion of nano tech and Venom like symbiote material. Good luck ripping apart liquid metal that's mentally linked to Tony. Also in terms of raw power several armors ago Tony lifted an 80,000 ton reactor. Spiderman's 10-20 ton strength level is a joke compared to Ironman. IM also has the flying advantage. Adding Cap's strategy team 2 wins easily.
@chuckwolf: Dude I love Spider-Man but it would not go down like that, you are overrating Spider-Man,be rational before you make a decision
I'm not overrating him a bit, just going by past feats.. he's beaten Iron-man twice before by ripping his armor off him, sure once was Arno Stark from the future, but still he's done it. Sure the armor makes Tony stronger, but both Cap and Tony are at least 40 times slower, and I'm sorry Cap as great is he is is no match physically for Spidey.
This isn't like he hasn't fought them before, yes Peter has lost to Cap before, but that was due to hero worship and not wanting to actually hurt his Idol. if it was a real fight he'd take Cap down in less time than it takes cap to realize Peter hit him.
And like I said before.. Tony has no weapons that can touch Peter before he gets torn to shreads, unless tony has the forethougth to build a suit of adamantium armor... because Peter can even rip carbonadium that thin apart.
Have you seen Ironman's last few Armors? First off neither Peter or Logan are ripping anything off while Tony's forcefield's are up. Even if they are down the last few armors are completely modular and each piece flys back to Tony on command. His last armor before Secret Wars was a fusion of nano tech and Venom like symbiote material. Good luck ripping apart liquid metal that's mentally linked to Tony. Also in terms of raw power several armors ago Tony lifted an 80,000 ton reactor. Spiderman's 10-20 ton strength level is a joke compared to Ironman. IM also has the flying advantage. Adding Cap's strategy team 2 wins easily.
So you're ignoring the scan I posted earlier with Tony in armor that's just 2 years old, our time, and as for Peter's strength level it's at 40 tons... minimum these days. And yes I agree Tony's armor can be amped up to lift tremendous amounts, but all that lifting power isn't going to do anything when you can't hit the guy you're swinging at. And as for the force fields go, a lot of tony's more recent armors haven't used them like his earlier ones did. It was one of the reasons Spidey was able to rip it to shreds. I guess it all comes down to which suit Tony is wearing that day, if a standard set... Spidey wins. if something special like the Hulkbuster etc... Tony Wins.
@noone301994: Show me a scan where Wolverine's son fights or says he fights Lazaer when near death. It doesn't exist.
Really. A scenario thats happened multiple times is PIS? I don't believe so. Your second scan doesn't show anything...... Just spiderman hitting Iron Man enough to lose his grip, which isn't even a mildly impressive feat. Cap was able to put Tony down, and Spiderman could surely put cap down and HAS taken Tony down. Spidey beats Iron Man, Wolverine Takes Cap
@noone301994: Show me a scan where Wolverine's son fights or says he fights Lazaer when near death. It doesn't exist.
Really. A scenario thats happened multiple times is PIS? I don't believe so. Your second scan doesn't show anything...... Just spiderman hitting Iron Man enough to lose his grip, which isn't even a mildly impressive feat. Cap was able to put Tony down, and Spiderman could surely put cap down and HAS taken Tony down. Spidey beats Iron Man, Wolverine Takes Cap
I think your scan is out of context. IIRC Ironman suit was deactivate in that scan
Tony's shields have tanked a nuke at 2% and people honestly think Parker has the damage output to get through that. Extremists suit solo pwns. Bleeding edge suit solo pwns. Endo Sym suit solo pwns.
@chuckwolf: Dude I love Spider-Man but it would not go down like that, you are overrating Spider-Man,be rational before you make a decision
I'm not overrating him a bit, just going by past feats.. he's beaten Iron-man twice before by ripping his armor off him, sure once was Arno Stark from the future, but still he's done it. Sure the armor makes Tony stronger, but both Cap and Tony are at least 40 times slower, and I'm sorry Cap as great is he is is no match physically for Spidey.
This isn't like he hasn't fought them before, yes Peter has lost to Cap before, but that was due to hero worship and not wanting to actually hurt his Idol. if it was a real fight he'd take Cap down in less time than it takes cap to realize Peter hit him.
And like I said before.. Tony has no weapons that can touch Peter before he gets torn to shreads, unless tony has the forethougth to build a suit of adamantium armor... because Peter can even rip carbonadium that thin apart.
Have you seen Ironman's last few Armors? First off neither Peter or Logan are ripping anything off while Tony's forcefield's are up. Even if they are down the last few armors are completely modular and each piece flys back to Tony on command. His last armor before Secret Wars was a fusion of nano tech and Venom like symbiote material. Good luck ripping apart liquid metal that's mentally linked to Tony. Also in terms of raw power several armors ago Tony lifted an 80,000 ton reactor. Spiderman's 10-20 ton strength level is a joke compared to Ironman. IM also has the flying advantage. Adding Cap's strategy team 2 wins easily.
So you're ignoring the scan I posted earlier with Tony in armor that's just 2 years old, our time, and as for Peter's strength level it's at 40 tons... minimum these days. And yes I agree Tony's armor can be amped up to lift tremendous amounts, but all that lifting power isn't going to do anything when you can't hit the guy you're swinging at. And as for the force fields go, a lot of tony's more recent armors haven't used them like his earlier ones did. It was one of the reasons Spidey was able to rip it to shreds. I guess it all comes down to which suit Tony is wearing that day, if a standard set... Spidey wins. if something special like the Hulkbuster etc... Tony Wins.
I know he was around the 40 ton mark with all the mystical spider stuff but wasn't Peter powered down to about double his original strength in the last few years? I have to agree with you that it dependes on the armor but a lot of stories have be full of PIS when IM gets beat by all but the most powerful heroes. Cap and Spidey taking it out on a morally grey Tony makes for good emotional stories but make no logical sense. There is no reason Stark would downgrade his armors. So going from Iron Man who can tank a Nuke to Iron Man who can get beat up by Spider-Man is silly. Spidey also beat Firelord remember that.
ABC logic is garbage, especially when it's stems from PIS. Ironman does not lose to Spidey, the sheer versatility at Ironman's disposal is good enough to let him solo.
Show me a scan where Wolverine's son fights or says he fights Lazaer when near death. It doesn't exist.
Lmfao what does that have to do with anything? Are you really going to stand there and tell me that no one short of Lazaer can kill Wolverine? Depriving his brain of oxygen will work. I already proved that.
Really. A scenario thats happened multiple times is PIS? I don't believe so.
He's only beaten Iron Man twice. Those instances were extremely bad writing. I can go into further detail about it if you really want. However, Iron Man has beaten Spider-Man 3 times. 2/3 of those instances he literally one-shotted Spidey. So where do we draw the line of "PIS"? I'd say we look at the fact that Iron Man is a high-tier hero and Spider-Man is a low-tier hero and base it off of that. Should low-tier logically be able to beat a high-tier so easily? No. Should a low-tier hero be able to damage/penetrate an armor that 4 simultaneous nuclear detonations couldn't? No.
Your second scan doesn't show anything...... Just spiderman hitting Iron Man enough to lose his grip, which isn't even a mildly impressive feat.
Glad to know you can read... Spider-Man hurt his hand punching Iron Man. So much so that he fled. THAT was the point of the scan.
Cap was able to put Tony down, and Spiderman could surely put cap down and HAS taken Tony down. Spidey beats Iron Man, Wolverine Takes Cap
HAHAHA here we go... You do realize that Vision had to disable Iron Man's suit before Captain America put the beat down on Iron Man there right? He even admits that he has to fight dirty to win:
Even that could be seen as PIS, because even when Iron Man's armor has been "compromised" it's take a lot more punishment than that... Even by Captain America's shield:
Lord Gouzar is a team-buster who is WAY stronger than Captain America and he couldn't even dent Tony's suit after repeatedly hitting it in the same spot.
This is what really happens when Iron Man and Captain America fight:
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That's right, you guessed it. He gets his a$$ kicked. Hard.
Iron Man is simply on another level than these street levelers. He solostomps. 10/10.
(I also love how nowhere in your response did you even attempt to retort the fact that Iron Man would just use magnetism to stomp Wolverine).
@chuckwolf: Spider-Man does not beat Iron Man under any circumstances. You are wanking him WAY too hard.
He already has, It's not wanking if he's already done it, Tony can only improve on his standard armor so much, and barring bring out something like the Hulkbuster armor to fight Spidey, the out come should still be the same. Peter wins due to superior speed, and being able to avoid any attack Tony can muster. Then again I'm guessing you're one of those that thinks Spider-man vs Firelord was PIS.
@chuckwolf: Spider-Man does not beat Iron Man under any circumstances. You are wanking him WAY too hard.
He already has, It's not wanking if he's already done it, Tony can only improve on his standard armor so much, and barring bring out something like the Hulkbuster armor to fight Spidey, the out come should still be the same. Peter wins due to superior speed, and being able to avoid any attack Tony can muster. Then again I'm guessing you're one of those that thinks Spider-man vs Firelord was PIS.
Lmfao.
He's done it through PIS and bad writing. Iron Man has more than enough speed and power to tag Spider-Man and would one-shot him (like he has twice already) without that much trouble. Are you really going to sit there and tell me that even Hulk-Buster Iron Man would lose against Spidey? WOW. Spider-Man wouldn't be able to even dent that armor, let alone beat it due to "superior speed"...
Yes, I am one of 'those'. Considering the fact that 99% of people agree with me, I don't feel that alienated by that comment. Of course having Spider-Man beat a herald level character is bad writing. That's nowhere near his weight class. But you go ahead and preach your fanboyism and pretend like it was good writing and that it was a consistent measure of his power levels. Whatever helps you sleep at night.
The OP stated win by K.O. which Ironman and Cap can pull off, unless Wolverine can sneak up on iron man and damage his armor... but if they start off facing each other than I see IM and Cap winning.
Cap can K.O. wolverine easily and Ironman can levetate high enough to support Cap if necessary and stay out of the way of Spidey, it may be hard for Tony to land shots on Peter with any kind of standard weapons in his suit like repulsors/missiles due to Spiderman's spider sense and extreme reflexes. I think that Wolverine will get K.O. d forst then Cap amd Ironman can team up on Spiderman and K.O. him, Cap amd Ironman are used to working together and kmow how to fight as a team.. they also carry headsets for communicating amd Cap is a brilliant strategist, I can't see why Cap's wits combined with Tony's armor can't win. Wolverine and Spiderman never fight as a team or very rarely I should say so they won't have the same teamwork abilities, and also they can't out strategize the best strategist in the Marvek Universe which is Cap
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