Wolverine vs Tombstone (with rules)

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#1  Edited By Capt00098

Wolverine decides to kill Lincoln to stop his criminal activities. 
 
Location: Lincoln's office. 
 
Rules: 
-Logan does not have his healing factor but has his claws.
-Morals are on. 
-Fight is to death.

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does Wolverine have his adamantium?
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#3  Edited By Capt00098
@Jake Fury said:

" does Wolverine have his adamantium? "

Wolverine has his adamantium.
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#4  Edited By ScipioAfricanus
@Capt00098: Then he wins
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#5  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@ScipioAfricanus said:
" @Capt00098: Then he wins "
Who is the assumed subject in that sentence?
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#6  Edited By ScipioAfricanus
@texasdeathmatch:  Wolverine.
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#7  Edited By reactor

Yeah, adamantium >>> most anything else found on Earth.

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#8  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Wolverine.
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Wolverine since he has his adamantium.
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@Morpheus_ said:
"Wolverine. "
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How is Logan gonna survive with no healing factor? 
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#12  Edited By jayskee

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#13  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

This is a stomp. 
 
The only thing that would result in a bigger stomp is if Wolverine had sledgehammers coming out of his hands instead of claws :o
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#14  Edited By nefarious

Wolverine wins.

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#15  Edited By jeanlucpicard

Wolverine doesn't need HF to win fights, just the other day someone was posting scans of Wolverine beating someone clearly bigger than him with ease. I forgot the name of the person But I hope they post it again. Wolverine Doesn't need his claws for the fight anyway, his H2H is enough, claws just give him an advantage.
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#16  Edited By spidey 15

No healing but adamantium claws???? 
 
Tombstone stomps.....

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#17  Edited By PirateKing69
@spidey 15 said:
" No healing but adamantium claws????  Tombstone stomps..... "
your the only one that said Tombstone how does he win?
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#18  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator
@jeanlucpicard: 
" Wolverine Doesn't need his claws for the fight anyway, his H2H is enough, " 
No, he can't win without his claws.  It takes Spider-Man using all of his strength, further enhancing the strike with a fist layed in webbing to knock out Tombstone.  Wolverine doesn't even have a fraction of Spider-Man's full strength. 


Also, Tombstone doesn't take a majority.  Tombstone might be fairly fast, but he's a sloppy fighter and we've seen Daredevil and Spider-Man more than capable of dodging.  Wolverine at his best should be able to dodge and even one-shot Tombstone in this.  Sure, there might be one or two matches where Tombstone gets the strike first, but those will be few and far between, and pretty much impossible if Logan is at his best. 
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#19  Edited By goldenshot80
@Morpheus_ said:
" Wolverine. "
Wolverine
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@k4tzm4n said:
"This is a stomp.  
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#21  Edited By jeanlucpicard
@PirateKing69:
Wait, Wolverine adamantium and no HF would mean he would die very quickly from the poisoning, so tombstone would win that way. other that He isn't beating Wolverine.
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#22  Edited By spidey 15
@PirateKing69 said:
" @spidey 15 said:
" No healing but adamantium claws????  Tombstone stomps..... "
your the only one that said Tombstone how does he win? "
Because without a healing factor, the poison from adamantium would just kill Logan. 
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#23  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

It's fair to assume for the match he wouldn't suffer from poisoning.  Otherwise, that's one stupid thread.
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#24  Edited By Erik
@jeanlucpicard said:

" @PirateKing69: Wait, Wolverine adamantium and no HF would mean he would die very quickly from the poisoning, so tombstone would win that way. other that He isn't beating Wolverine. "

It does not work that fast. When he first went to Genosha, his powers were turned off for days. And back then, the adamantium was poisonous but also stopped his body from making new blood cells, a process called haemopoiesis. In case anyone does not know, you need that bodily process to survive. 
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#25  Edited By spidey 15
@k4tzm4n said:
" @jeanlucpicard: " Wolverine Doesn't need his claws for the fight anyway, his H2H is enough, " No, he can't win without his claws.  It takes Spider-Man using all of his strength, further enhancing the strike with a fist layed in webbing to knock out Tombstone.  Wolverine doesn't even have a fraction of Spider-Man's full strength. Also, Tombstone doesn't take a majority.  Tombstone might be fairly fast, but he's a sloppy fighter and we've seen Daredevil and Spider-Man more than capable of dodging.  Wolverine at his best should be able to dodge and even one-shot Tombstone in this.  Sure, there might be one or two matches where Tombstone gets the strike first, but those will be few and far between, and pretty much impossible if Logan is at his best.  "
I think he is talking about the rock of the budha that Wolverine easily owned with just a well placed hit. I'm not sure if the same can happen to tomb but i don't see a reason why e would not have a weak place that Logan could use in his advantage. 
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#26  Edited By Full_Spectrum

either way, I'm betting wolverine could put tombstnoe down be adamantium poisoning set in, even if it only took minutes. diamond hard skin<<adamantium claws

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#27  Edited By spidey 15
@k4tzm4n said:
" It's fair to assume for the match he wouldn't suffer from poisoning.  Otherwise, that's one stupid thread. "
I guess that thread maker was not aware of the poisoning. But i guess you are right. Anyway, under normal conditions, Logan stomps and if we are going to assume that he won;t be poisoned, then he still stomps. 
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#28  Edited By FLCL1

tombstone stomps
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#29  Edited By spidey 15
@FLCL1 said:

" tombstone stomps "

Nah... 
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@FLCL1 said:
"tombstone stomps "

Not quite ,chap.
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#31  Edited By FLCL1
@spidey 15 said:
"@FLCL1 said:

" tombstone stomps "

Nah... =] "

ok he wins lol without his healing factor i dont see him being a huge threat 
btw i love how people assume wolverine is going to go through him like butter. tombstone is a tough opponent for any street lvler
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#32  Edited By spidey 15
@FLCL1: His healing factor is not that important when Logan relies to his stats and skills. Take for instance his fight in Manifest Destiny. Thanks to his skills, he did not even take a hit. Also, why should Logan have trouble cutting him? The guy has stab the thing, Hulk, Namor, Thor etc.... People that have far superior durability and it did not seem that he put much effort to stab them. 
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#33  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@FLCL1 said:
"ok he wins lol without his healing factor i dont see him being a huge threat btw i love how people assume wolverine is going to go through him like butter. "
He will, really. Tombstone's skin is extremely durable, but it cannot match adamantium. Wolverine will literally cut through it like butter.
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#34  Edited By FLCL1

what stats? skills? we all know he has skills however all we see him do is lunge at people, its not like he fights like iron fist. manifest destiny?  
 
ok thats a good point  
who hasnt stabbed hulk at this point? 
i dont remember namor having any duriblity feats on the likes of hulk and thing 
when did he stab thor? 
 
i might have to change my opinion anyways because i dont see tombstone doing serious harm to wolverine h2h
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#35  Edited By FLCL1
@Morpheus_ said:
" @FLCL1 said:
"ok he wins lol without his healing factor i dont see him being a huge threat btw i love how people assume wolverine is going to go through him like butter. "
He will, really. Tombstone's skin is extremely durable, but it cannot match adamantium. Wolverine will literally cut through it like butter. "

to be honest i've never seen tombstone being stabbed in any marvel comic which is why im finding this hard to believe, however spidey15 brought up a good point about him stabbing the thing that i forgot about, so i guess he can.
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#36  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator

 
@FLCL1 said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @FLCL1 said:
"ok he wins lol without his healing factor i dont see him being a huge threat btw i love how people assume wolverine is going to go through him like butter. "
He will, really. Tombstone's skin is extremely durable, but it cannot match adamantium. Wolverine will literally cut through it like butter. "
to be honest i've never seen tombstone being stabbed in any marvel comic which is why im finding this hard to believe, however spidey15 brought up a good point about him stabbing the thing that i forgot about, so i guess he can. "
No one ever tried to stab him with adamantium.
 
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#37  Edited By spidey 15
@FLCL1 said:
" what stats? skills? we all know he has skills however all we see him do is lunge at people, its not like he fights like iron fist. manifest destiny?   ok thats a good point  who hasnt stabbed hulk at this point? i dont remember namor having any duriblity feats on the likes of hulk and thing when did he stab thor?  i might have to change my opinion anyways because i dont see tombstone doing serious harm to wolverine h2h "
That's the low end Logan. High end Logan puts him above the likes of captain america. Actually he has aready beaten captain america and his level of intellect was that of a warewolf. Logan has also beaten the likes of Shang Chi in like one page without using his claws or without getting a hit. He has easily disarm Bucky and he incapacitated him with an arm lock. He has alos used nerve strikes. One instance was against Storm and in another instance he has stated that he could use a nerve pinch against Rogue. He has also trained in arm combat. This has been shown when he has beaten some ninjas with a sword while he was blind folded. 
Hulk is supposed to have amazing durability when it comes to blunt force. Same applies for Namor who has taken hits from Hulk and Iron man. Logan has stabbed thor when Loki has made him to believe that Thor was Sabretooth. He jumped on thor and stabbed him in the back IIRC.  
Tombstone's durability feats are only for blunt force, and even these feats are not even close to be on Hulk's or Namor's or Thing's level. He has nothing that suggest he can not be cut by something that has gone through the skin of  these characters. 
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#38  Edited By spidey 15

As for physical stats. Logan has low level super human strength and reflexes. 
Holding an elevator while people were inside 

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Here he easily breaks chains 
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Here he lifts a tree and uses it like it is a bo-staff and he also kick some huge rocks like they were balls 

 
And here he lifts dozen of people OVER HIS HEAD, with only his ONE ARM 

    
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#39  Edited By FLCL1
@spidey 15:  
fine i guess i'd have a better case if he didnt have his claws
@Morpheus_:
those are actually amazing scans >.> 
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#40  Edited By spidey 15
@FLCL1: I'm not sure if i am right, but even without claws, i would make a case that he could win in a similar manner that he has beaten the Rock of Budha. In Morph's scans, as you can see, he has used a well placed hit to beat him. As i said, i'm not sure if the same applies for Tombstone, but i don't see why it should not. 
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#41  Edited By FLCL1
@spidey 15 said:
" @FLCL1: I'm not sure if i am right, but even without claws, i would make a case that he could win in a similar manner that he has beaten the Rock of Budha. In Morph's scans, as you can see, he has used a well placed hit to beat him. As i said, i'm not sure if the same applies for Tombstone, but i don't see why it should not. =] "

diamond>rock lol 
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#42  Edited By spidey 15
@FLCL1: That does not mean that diamond does not have weak spots. Not that it matters because it's mostly speculation, so i would not debate about it, since i can not support my claim with evidence.  
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