Tobey Maguire Spiderman
VS
Wolverine from X-men Origins Wolverine
Who wins?
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I actually don't see a way for movie Spidey to put down movie Wolverine. He literally didn't give a crap whether he was shot, stabbed, etc. He'd just keep coming.
@beautifulrevery said:
I actually don't see a way for movie Spidey to put down movie Wolverine. He literally didn't give a crap whether he was shot, stabbed, etc. He'd just keep coming.
He got KO'd by a bullet from a cop in X-men 2. Sabretooth KO'd Wolverine with a tree in X-men 1 and Lady Deathstrike was overpowering his healing factor in X-2 as well. Tobey Maguire's Spider-man has enough strength to KO Wolverine he stopped a train in Spider-man 2 he must be at least a 50tonner.
@Strider92 said:
@beautifulrevery said:
I actually don't see a way for movie Spidey to put down movie Wolverine. He literally didn't give a crap whether he was shot, stabbed, etc. He'd just keep coming.
He got KO'd by a bullet from a cop in X-men 2. Sabretooth KO'd Wolverine with a tree in X-men 1 and Lady Deathstrike was overpowering his healing factor in X-2 as well. Tobey Maguire's Spider-man has enough strength to KO Wolverine he stopped a train in Spider-man 2 he must be at least a 50tonner.
A bullet to the brain should KO anyone really. If not, it's really really stupid. He did stop a train but it wasn't really his strength but rather the bracing and webbing. If he stopped it using his strength alone then I'd count it as more of a strength feat but not the way he did it. The webbing took up a lot of the strain. Lady Deathstrike wasn't overpowering his HF, his HF was working but she just kept attacking because that's what she was ordered to do. Besides this is Wolverine from Origins.
@Strider92 said:
@beautifulrevery said:
I actually don't see a way for movie Spidey to put down movie Wolverine. He literally didn't give a crap whether he was shot, stabbed, etc. He'd just keep coming.
He got KO'd by a bullet from a cop in X-men 2. Sabretooth KO'd Wolverine with a tree in X-men 1 and Lady Deathstrike was overpowering his healing factor in X-2 as well. Tobey Maguire's Spider-man has enough strength to KO Wolverine he stopped a train in Spider-man 2 he must be at least a 50tonner.
Agreed!
@Strider92 said:
@beautifulrevery said:
I actually don't see a way for movie Spidey to put down movie Wolverine. He literally didn't give a crap whether he was shot, stabbed, etc. He'd just keep coming.
He got KO'd by a bullet from a cop in X-men 2. Sabretooth KO'd Wolverine with a tree in X-men 1 and Lady Deathstrike was overpowering his healing factor in X-2 as well. Tobey Maguire's Spider-man has enough strength to KO Wolverine he stopped a train in Spider-man 2 he must be at least a 50tonner.
50?I doubt it, his web did the trick with him on the front.....
This is a tough one but I will tentaviley go with Tobey Spiderman based on strength and speed in Spiderman 2.
@GhostRider2 said: Sabretooth and Bullets say no
@Strider92 said:
@beautifulrevery said:
I actually don't see a way for movie Spidey to put down movie Wolverine. He literally didn't give a crap whether he was shot, stabbed, etc. He'd just keep coming.
He got KO'd by a bullet from a cop in X-men 2. Sabretooth KO'd Wolverine with a tree in X-men 1 and Lady Deathstrike was overpowering his healing factor in X-2 as well. Tobey Maguire's Spider-man has enough strength to KO Wolverine he stopped a train in Spider-man 2 he must be at least a 50tonner.
A 50 tonner who could barely KO a middle aged overweight man?
Bazinga!!!!!
I think Tobey wins this relatively easily, but the Train feat was as much his webbing as it was his strength, and even that was mostly his grip strength. I'd put Tobey Maguire more along his comic iteration in term of strength, that is 20-25 tonnes, based on him lifting the giant metal wall. That is still easily enough to put Hugh Jackman to sleep. And then the webbing. All in all, its a bad fight for Logan.
@laflux: what if Wolverine cut him, sure he is fast but there is a chance.....and he is adamantium.A good reflex from Wolverine can cut Spidey head off or his arm.
Spiderman FTW
Movie wolverine couldn't fight for sh!t and liked to tank everything Spiderman easily KO him.
@GhostRider2 said:
@laflux: what if Wolverine cut him, sure he is fast but there is a chance.....and he is adamantium.A good reflex from Wolverine can cut Spidey head off or his arm.
Unlike Comic Wolverine, Movie Wolverine's combat speed was relatively poor. He could tag Mystique in X-Men 1, struggled heavily to tag Lady Deathstrike in X-Men 2, all of whom are slower Than Peter Parker. Before Logan lands a good Slash to Peter, he probably would already got enough hits to KO him, or would have webbed him up.
@laflux said:
@GhostRider2 said: Sabretooth and Bullets say no
@Strider92 said:
@beautifulrevery said:
I actually don't see a way for movie Spidey to put down movie Wolverine. He literally didn't give a crap whether he was shot, stabbed, etc. He'd just keep coming.
He got KO'd by a bullet from a cop in X-men 2. Sabretooth KO'd Wolverine with a tree in X-men 1 and Lady Deathstrike was overpowering his healing factor in X-2 as well. Tobey Maguire's Spider-man has enough strength to KO Wolverine he stopped a train in Spider-man 2 he must be at least a 50tonner.
A 50 tonner who could barely KO a middle aged overweight man?
Bazinga!!!!!
I think Tobey wins this relatively easily, but the Train feat was as much his webbing as it was his strength, and even that was mostly his grip strength. I'd put Tobey Maguire more along his comic iteration in term of strength, that is 20-25 tonnes, based on him lifting the giant metal wall. That is still easily enough to put Hugh Jackman to sleep. And then the webbing. All in all, its a bad fight for Logan.
@Immortal777 said:
Spiderman FTW
Movie wolverine couldn't fight for sh!t and liked to tank everything Spiderman easily KO him.
Spiderman could tie him up and make sure he couldn't use his arms at all and drop Wolverine in the Hudson or something.
I don't remember Maguire Spidey having any good speed feats, Wolverine could stab him making strength a bit of a non-factor. That said, I haven't watched those films for a while now.
@Strider92 said:
@beautifulrevery said:
I actually don't see a way for movie Spidey to put down movie Wolverine. He literally didn't give a crap whether he was shot, stabbed, etc. He'd just keep coming.
He got KO'd by a bullet from a cop in X-men 2. Sabretooth KO'd Wolverine with a tree in X-men 1 and Lady Deathstrike was overpowering his healing factor in X-2 as well. Tobey Maguire's Spider-man has enough strength to KO Wolverine he stopped a train in Spider-man 2 he must be at least a 50tonner.
Logan also was shot directly in the skull by Agent Zero and... Nothing, he shrugged them off. So the bullet feat is out, then we can reasonably say that Dukes is stronger than Sabertooth, Logan took shots from both of them and kept going.
The cop shooting Wolverine is straight up PIS.
@laflux said:
@GhostRider2 said:
@laflux: what if Wolverine cut him, sure he is fast but there is a chance.....and he is adamantium.A good reflex from Wolverine can cut Spidey head off or his arm.
Unlike Comic Wolverine, Movie Wolverine's combat speed was relatively poor. He could tag Mystique in X-Men 1, struggled heavily to tag Lady Deathstrike in X-Men 2, all of whom are slower Than Peter Parker. Before Logan lands a good Slash to Peter, he probably would already got enough hits to KO him, or would have webbed him up.
Spidey was tagged by Doc Ock, Goblin (Harry), and even had trouble avoiding Sandman at times.
Wolverine caught a teleporting "Deadpool", it's not like he's slow.
@Xanni15: Zero's shots were from a distance. Cop's bullet was nigh-point blank. Big distance gap, not the same circumstances.
@Strider92 said:
@Xanni15: Zero's shots were from a distance. Cop's bullet was nigh-point blank. Big distance gap, not the same circumstances.
Zero is a much better shot, that goes without saying. Did you see what he did from a distance?
Considering Logan has survived worse, I still stick with it being PIS. Plus Logan is from Origins, would his X2 feats apply?
@Xanni15 said:
@Strider92 said:
@Xanni15: Zero's shots were from a distance. Cop's bullet was nigh-point blank. Big distance gap, not the same circumstances.
Zero is a much better shot, that goes without saying. Did you see what he did from a distance?
Considering Logan has survived worse, I still stick with it being PIS. Plus Logan is from Origins, would his X2 feats apply?
Exactly. At a distance bullets loose velocity. At point blank you've got the full kick of the round before it has time to loose any speed.
Was there any difference between Origins Wolverine and the Wolverine in the X-men? To my recollection they are the same thing.
@Xanni15 said:
@Strider92 said:
@Xanni15: Zero's shots were from a distance. Cop's bullet was nigh-point blank. Big distance gap, not the same circumstances.
Zero is a much better shot, that goes without saying. Did you see what he did from a distance?
Considering Logan has survived worse, I still stick with it being PIS. Plus Logan is from Origins, would his X2 feats apply?
I thought that all the x-men movies( except First class) were in the same universe
@Strider92 said:
@Xanni15 said:
@Strider92 said:
@Xanni15: Zero's shots were from a distance. Cop's bullet was nigh-point blank. Big distance gap, not the same circumstances.
Zero is a much better shot, that goes without saying. Did you see what he did from a distance?
Considering Logan has survived worse, I still stick with it being PIS. Plus Logan is from Origins, would his X2 feats apply?
Exactly. At a distance bullets loose velocity. At point blank you've got the full kick of the round before it has time to loose any speed.
Was there any difference between Origins Wolverine and the Wolverine in the X-men? To my recollection they are the same thing.
I meant did you see what Zero did in the movie from a distance? Deadly accurate, ripping people to shreds. And I don't remember if his bullets were adamantium or not. For some reason I am thinking of that.
Wolverine wasn't as much of a jobber in Origins, more aggressive, and seemed smarter to me. He also fought tougher people. Sabertooth was tougher in Origins, as was Dukes, Gambit, Blob (incredibly durability).
@Eternal19 said:
@Xanni15 said:
@Strider92 said:
@Xanni15: Zero's shots were from a distance. Cop's bullet was nigh-point blank. Big distance gap, not the same circumstances.
Zero is a much better shot, that goes without saying. Did you see what he did from a distance?
Considering Logan has survived worse, I still stick with it being PIS. Plus Logan is from Origins, would his X2 feats apply?
I thought that all the x-men movies( except First class) were in the same universe
I honestly have no clue, though IMO there were clear differences between the two.
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