#1 Posted by HomasTardy (127 posts) - - Show Bio

1 on 1, morals off, fight to the death, random encounter so no prep time. Who would win and why?

#2 Posted by Nefarious (22925 posts) - - Show Bio

They already fought. Wolverine lost.

#3 Posted by Jake Fury (19246 posts) - - Show Bio

Was their most recent fight the one in X-Men Legacy?

#4 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (10839 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine. He is a FAR better fighter and should be able to hack Sebastian to pieces. Assuming Sebastian is powered up (though without prep that is questionable) Logan should be able ot handle hits Sebastian manages to land and counter for the kill.

#5 Posted by FiguredOut95 (379 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmmmm i haven't read any recent fights, but in the Dark Phoenix Saga he took on the entire team with ease so I would say, Sebastian stomps, although if it is a random encounter and Shaw is not powered up Wolverine could rip right into him.

#6 Posted by Bo88gdan (4666 posts) - - Show Bio

Shaw Ftw

#7 Posted by Doombert (518 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals off, random encounter = no prep time for Shaw = no amp for Shaw = Dead Shaw. With even a little bit of prep time Shaw could take it easy.

#8 Posted by RobocopSlayerT800 (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

They already fought. Wolverine lost.

pretty much. I didnt read this myself, but a friend of mine told me this along time ago.

#9 Edited by THUNDERBOLT30 (10839 posts) - - Show Bio

Shaw's physical strength is not enough of an advantage to beat Wolverine IMO. Logan has gone toe to toe with the Hulk, Thing, and Wendigo in terms of super strong bricks. Unlike Thing, Sebeastian is just an experienced brawler in unarmed combat (no real finesse to his fighting ability) vs Wolverine, when serious, is one of the best martial artists and h2h fighters on the planet. Even powered up I see no reason why Logan would be unable to land kill strikes on Sebastian.

#10 Posted by Nefarious (22925 posts) - - Show Bio
@RobocopSlayerT800: Indeed.
#11 Posted by dondave (38895 posts) - - Show Bio

Shaw ftw

#12 Posted by MasterAction (671 posts) - - Show Bio

Yep the no prep time is key here. Wolverine is tactically smart enough to go for the kill quickly so Shaw doesn't have time to use his powers properly. However I agree with some of the guys above that with the slightest bit of prep Logan is a dead man

#13 Posted by jashro44 (25493 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

They already fought. Wolverine lost.

Wasn't Shaw amped to the point he could dent adamantium from tanking an explosion or am I thinking about another fight? I don't know anything about shaw so I can't comment but I am just checking.

#14 Edited by Super_SoldierXII (6619 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@Nefarious said:

They already fought. Wolverine lost.

Wasn't Shaw amped to the point he could dent adamantium from tanking an explosion or am I thinking about another fight? I don't know anything about shaw so I can't comment but I am just checking.

No you're right - Shaw was amped to the ninth in that 'fight'. Wolverine was still able to break loose from a choke hold (though the fact Shaw actually got him in a choke hold is bad writing for anyone who knows what a top tier martial artist is supposed to look like).

If Shaw is amped to the point Logan's claws don't cut him (as he was in their showing), then he wins. Otherwise, it really is Wolverine's fight to lose as Logan's the better brawler by far and barring PIS should land the one telling blow far beforehand.

#15 Posted by ghost_rider1 (3630 posts) - - Show Bio

What are you guys talking about here?? Sebastian doesn't need prep for anything. Even if its just a random encounter. Wolverine still can't hurt shaw. Shaw power is to absorb energy. Shaw's powers will still absorb anything logan throws at him. He doesn't need to have prep or be amped up to do this

#16 Posted by Doombert (518 posts) - - Show Bio

no. Just no.

#17 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7043 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine slaughters him.

#18 Posted by laflux (17548 posts) - - Show Bio

@ghost_rider1 said:

What are you guys talking about here?? Sebastian doesn't need prep for anything. Even if its just a random encounter. Wolverine still can't hurt shaw. Shaw power is to absorb energy. Shaw's powers will still absorb anything logan throws at him. He doesn't need to have prep or be amped up to do this

Not from Adamantuim Claws no.