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#1  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

Kraven (Sergei) has spent weeks studying Wolverine and has decided that Logan is the ultimate prey. His healing factor, enhanced senses, and animalistic temperment make him possibly the most dangerous prey he has ever hunted. Logan has gone alone deep into the forest and Serei decides that it is now time for the hunt. 
 
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Wolverine(Current) - Adamantium claws 
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Kraven (Sergei) - Adamantium spear, blow dart gun, adamantium hunting knives and machete, bolas, nets, and various poisons.
 
Setting: Thick forest at Midday. 
 
 
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-Victory by death, KO, or incapacitation. 
-Wolverine initially does not know he is being hunted. 
-Kraven has spent time carefully observing and analyzing Wolverine's mutant abilities and fighting style.
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#2  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

No one?
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#3  Edited By Darth Malek

wolverine takes this

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#4  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator
@Darth Malek said:
"wolverine takes this "

And your reasoning?
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#5  Edited By Porlos

Wolverine, all that equipment will weigh Kraven down and Wolverine will smell him coming a mile away.  All it takes is one slash for Wolvie to end this, even if Kraven gets the first hits with those adamantium weapons.

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#6  Edited By vegeta

wolverine would smell him hiding and sniff out traps  
   
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#7  Edited By geraldthesloth

I'm tempted to give it to Kraven he has knowledge of his opponent in a VERY dangerous area that benefits the hunter, we've seen Wolverine be affected by Poisons, if he where to get hit by a dart or another trap set up by the hunter he could attack him with the Adamantium spear and potentially defeat Wolverine

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#8  Edited By vegeta
@geraldthesloth said:
"I'm tempted to give it to Kraven he has knowledge of his opponent in a VERY dangerous area that benefits the hunter, we've seen Wolverine be affected by Poisons, if he where to get hit by a dart or another trap set up by the hunter he could attack him with the Adamantium spear and potentially defeat Wolverine "

like i said he would sniff out all traps
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#9  Edited By geraldthesloth
@vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
"I'm tempted to give it to Kraven he has knowledge of his opponent in a VERY dangerous area that benefits the hunter, we've seen Wolverine be affected by Poisons, if he where to get hit by a dart or another trap set up by the hunter he could attack him with the Adamantium spear and potentially defeat Wolverine "
like i said he would sniff out all traps "
How do you smell a trap? there isn't cheese connected to a rope on a tree.
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#10  Edited By castleking
smell of the material upturned soil same way he has done it b4
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#11  Edited By vegeta
@geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
"I'm tempted to give it to Kraven he has knowledge of his opponent in a VERY dangerous area that benefits the hunter, we've seen Wolverine be affected by Poisons, if he where to get hit by a dart or another trap set up by the hunter he could attack him with the Adamantium spear and potentially defeat Wolverine "
like i said he would sniff out all traps "
How do you smell a trap? there isn't cheese connected to a rope on a tree. "

but its gonna have kravens scent on it anything that smells like it shouldnt belong he has sniffed out many traps before
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#12  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

Sergei has taken down every animal on erth with his bare hands. He has 2 ton strength, reflexes and durbility to tangle cosistently with Soider-Man and sometime win. He is a 6 in fighting skill and has shown the ability to stop a charging bull elephant in it's tracks. He knows Wolvrine's tendencies, he knows how his power work, he isn't goingto take him lightly. He will hit Logan with a poison tipped dart or two before Wolverine knows he is there. It's all a matter of remaining downwind, and this poison is strong nough to knock out Spider-Man in seconds. X-23 was smart enough to defeat Wolverine by rubbing dirt in his wounds so they wouldn't heal, whats to stop the worlds greatest hunter from doing the same? Also current Wolverine's HF hasn't been spectacular as of late.
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#13  Edited By geraldthesloth
@vegeta: Kraven has prepared for a situation like this he knows what Logan is capable of read the OP, Wolverine has never encountered Kraven from what I can remember, he wouldn't know his scent.
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#14  Edited By vegeta
@geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta: Kraven has prepared for a situation like this he knows what Logan is capable of read the OP, Wolverine has never encountered Kraven from what I can remember, he wouldn't know his scent. "

a human scent out there in the jungle with just him and kraven
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#15  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator
@Lunacyde said:
"Sergei has taken down every animal on erth with his bare hands. He has 2 ton strength, reflexes and durbility to tangle cosistently with Spider-Man and sometime win. He is a 6 in fighting skill, mastering a combination of fighting styles and pressure points and has shown the ability to stop a charging bull elephant in it's tracks. He knows Wolvrine's tendencies, he knows how his power work, he isn't goingto take him lightly. He will hit Logan with a poison tipped dart or two before Wolverine knows he is there. It's all a matter of remaining downwind, and this poison is strong nough to knock out Spider-Man in seconds. X-23 was smart enough to defeat Wolverine by rubbing dirt in his wounds so they wouldn't heal, whats to stop the worlds greatest hunter from doing the same? Also current Wolverine's HF hasn't been spectacular as of late. "
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#16  Edited By geraldthesloth
@vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta: Kraven has prepared for a situation like this he knows what Logan is capable of read the OP, Wolverine has never encountered Kraven from what I can remember, he wouldn't know his scent. "
a human scent out there in the jungle with just him and kraven "
says? there's obviously wildlife in a jungle unless stated in the thread.
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#17  Edited By castleking
@Lunacyde said:
" Sergei has taken down every animal on erth with his bare hands. He has 2 ton strength, reflexes and durbility to tangle cosistently with Soider-Man and sometime win. He is a 6 in fighting skill and has shown the ability to stop a charging bull elephant in it's tracks. He knows Wolvrine's tendencies, he knows how his power work, he isn't goingto take him lightly. He will hit Logan with a poison tipped dart or two before Wolverine knows he is there. It's all a matter of remaining downwind, and this poison is strong nough to knock out Spider-Man in seconds. X-23 was smart enough to defeat Wolverine by rubbing dirt in his wounds so they wouldn't heal, whats to stop the worlds greatest hunter from doing the same? Also current Wolverine's HF hasn't been spectacular as of late. "
the poison used to take down spider wouldnt effect logan it is also some of the worst abc logic...
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#18  Edited By vegeta
@Lunacyde said:
"@Lunacyde said:
"Sergei has taken down every animal on erth with his bare hands. He has 2 ton strength, reflexes and durbility to tangle cosistently with Spider-Man and sometime win. He is a 6 in fighting skill, mastering a combination of fighting styles and pressure points and has shown the ability to stop a charging bull elephant in it's tracks. He knows Wolvrine's tendencies, he knows how his power work, he isn't goingto take him lightly. He will hit Logan with a poison tipped dart or two before Wolverine knows he is there. It's all a matter of remaining downwind, and this poison is strong nough to knock out Spider-Man in seconds. X-23 was smart enough to defeat Wolverine by rubbing dirt in his wounds so they wouldn't heal, whats to stop the worlds greatest hunter from doing the same? Also current Wolverine's HF hasn't been spectacular as of late. "
"

is what im sayin wolvie would know hes there he would smell him coming a mile away
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#19  Edited By geraldthesloth
@castleking: Shingen poisoned Logan, why wouldn't Kraven be able to poison him?
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#20  Edited By vegeta
@geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta: Kraven has prepared for a situation like this he knows what Logan is capable of read the OP, Wolverine has never encountered Kraven from what I can remember, he wouldn't know his scent. "
a human scent out there in the jungle with just him and kraven "
says? there's obviously wildlife in a jungle unless stated in the thread. "

wildlife animal smell is diferent then human smell
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#21  Edited By geraldthesloth
@vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta: Kraven has prepared for a situation like this he knows what Logan is capable of read the OP, Wolverine has never encountered Kraven from what I can remember, he wouldn't know his scent. "
a human scent out there in the jungle with just him and kraven "
says? there's obviously wildlife in a jungle unless stated in the thread. "
wildlife animal smell is diferent then human smell "
He hasn't smelled everything that exists within the Jungle everything has its own unique smell, he could be tricked into thinking it's mushrooms,or various other garbage in a jungle.
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#22  Edited By vegeta
@geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta: Kraven has prepared for a situation like this he knows what Logan is capable of read the OP, Wolverine has never encountered Kraven from what I can remember, he wouldn't know his scent. "
a human scent out there in the jungle with just him and kraven "
says? there's obviously wildlife in a jungle unless stated in the thread. "
wildlife animal smell is diferent then human smell "
He hasn't smelled everything that exists within the Jungle everything has its own unique smell, he could be tricked into thinking it's mushrooms,or various other garbage in a jungle. "

ok for one he doesnt need to smell everything as long as he knows a human scent and wolvies nose is alot better than that he can sniff through all bs and smell the underlying original scent
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#23  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator
@castleking said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" Sergei has taken down every animal on erth with his bare hands. He has 2 ton strength, reflexes and durbility to tangle cosistently with Soider-Man and sometime win. He is a 6 in fighting skill and has shown the ability to stop a charging bull elephant in it's tracks. He knows Wolvrine's tendencies, he knows how his power work, he isn't goingto take him lightly. He will hit Logan with a poison tipped dart or two before Wolverine knows he is there. It's all a matter of remaining downwind, and this poison is strong nough to knock out Spider-Man in seconds. X-23 was smart enough to defeat Wolverine by rubbing dirt in his wounds so they wouldn't heal, whats to stop the worlds greatest hunter from doing the same? Also current Wolverine's HF hasn't been spectacular as of late. "
the poison used to take down spider wouldnt effect logan it is also some of the worst abc logic... "

Sergei is a master of poisons and is armed with a large variety of them. Wolverine has been affected by poisons before. It's not ABC logic, it's meant to show how potent a small poison tipped dart can be.
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#24  Edited By geraldthesloth
@vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta: Kraven has prepared for a situation like this he knows what Logan is capable of read the OP, Wolverine has never encountered Kraven from what I can remember, he wouldn't know his scent. "
a human scent out there in the jungle with just him and kraven "
says? there's obviously wildlife in a jungle unless stated in the thread. "
wildlife animal smell is diferent then human smell "
He hasn't smelled everything that exists within the Jungle everything has its own unique smell, he could be tricked into thinking it's mushrooms,or various other garbage in a jungle. "
ok for one he doesnt need to smell everything as long as he knows a human scent and wolvies nose is alot better than that he can sniff through all bs and smell the underlying original scent "
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#25  Edited By vegeta
@geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta: Kraven has prepared for a situation like this he knows what Logan is capable of read the OP, Wolverine has never encountered Kraven from what I can remember, he wouldn't know his scent. "
a human scent out there in the jungle with just him and kraven "
says? there's obviously wildlife in a jungle unless stated in the thread. "
wildlife animal smell is diferent then human smell "
He hasn't smelled everything that exists within the Jungle everything has its own unique smell, he could be tricked into thinking it's mushrooms,or various other garbage in a jungle. "
ok for one he doesnt need to smell everything as long as he knows a human scent and wolvies nose is alot better than that he can sniff through all bs and smell the underlying original scent "
"

?
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#26  Edited By castleking
@geraldthesloth said:

" @castleking: Shingen poisoned Logan, why wouldn't Kraven be able to poison him? "

Shingen poison was suppose to be enough to kill an army of men... shingen's ninjas were out to kill logan with his HF in mind and that was old school logan... the only thing it did was ko him...
 
 
logan has bn able to tank poisons that are suppose to take down herd of elephants.... 

 
he has survived and by sheer willpower survive and fight back with alien poison in his system and push it out of his veins......... 
 
logan has had  mystic poison concoction designed to kill & paralyzed a sh#$load of men made by zaran the weapon master and  all it did was dull logan's senses and slow down his HF.... it only lasted a few minutes in his system and he still manage to overpower and beat zaran who had laid traps and ninjas..... 
 
 
 
logan has eaten a full plate of blow fish toxins and asked for more again it was suppose to kill an army of men... i have not seen a single instance where kraven had a type of poison designed to kill or slow down someone like logan... what poison feats does kraven have in order to believe he is able to poison logan?
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#27  Edited By vegeta
@castleking said:
"@geraldthesloth said:

" @castleking: Shingen poisoned Logan, why wouldn't Kraven be able to poison him? "

Shingen poison was suppose to be enough to kill an army of men... shingen's ninjas were out to kill logan with his HF in mind and that was old school logan... the only thing it did was ko him...
 
 
logan has bn able to tank poisons that are suppose to take down herd of elephants.... he has survived and by sheer willpower survive and fight back with alien poison......... logan has had  mystic poison concoction designed to kill & paralyzed a sh#$load of men made by zaran the weapon master and  all it did was dull logan's senses and slow down his HF.... it only lasted a few minutes in his system and he still manage to overpower and beat zaran who had laid traps and ninjas..... logan has eaten a full plate of blow fish toxins and asked for more again it was suppose to kill an army of men... i have not seen a single instance where kraven had a type of poison designed to kill or slow down someone like logan... what poison feats does kraven have in order to believe he is able to poison logan?
"

ahhhhh shit
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#28  Edited By castleking
wolverine..ftw............ unless we want to give kraven access to every known and mystic unknown poisons in the MU rather then his own limited access of knowledge?
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#29  Edited By geraldthesloth
@castleking: any poison can kill an army of men -_- you just spread it in a larger area. Zaran the weapon master has never been impressive he loses to everyone he fights.
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#30  Edited By vegeta
@castleking said:

"wolverine..ftw............ unless we want to give kraven access to every known and mystic unknown poisons in the MU rather then his own limited access of knowledge?
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lmao thats as funny as this 
   
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#31  Edited By castleking
that is not how poisons works you dont just spread it and say it can kill an army of men... it depends on the potency... 
the potency was suppose to kill an army of men or horde of elephants in order so it would effect logan........
 
so again what is kravens strongest poison feat?
 

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#32  Edited By geraldthesloth
@castleking: So a single poison injected into a person kills an army of men? it's hyperbole.
 
He knows every poison there is and has studied all living animals. he should have a decent enough one in his arsenal
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#35  Edited By castleking
@geraldthesloth said:

" @castleking: So a single poison injected into a person kills an army of men? it's hyperbole.  He knows every poison there is and has studied all living animals. he should have a decent enough one in his arsenal "

thats not hyperbole if you have a vial of poison with the potency to kill a herd of elephants or men then all you do is spread it in the water and let them drink it in order to increase the volume........... your arguing semantics  b/c you cant grasp the very basic concept of mass/volume and potency.....
 
 
also hyperbole would be your statement of kraven studying every living animal and knowing every poison.... seeing as Zaran was the only outside person allowed to live with a mystical tribe and learn their mystic arts of stealth and poison... that was an on panel explanation of zaran....
 
Kraven has no mention saying he has studied and lived with zaran's tribe.
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#36  Edited By Porlos
@geraldthesloth said:
" @castleking: So a single poison injected into a person kills an army of men? it's hyperbole.  He knows every poison there is and has studied all living animals. he should have a decent enough one in his arsenal "
It means the poison is so concentrated that a fraction of it would be enough to kill a normal man.  Like say a milligram of poison can kill a normal man, but a person gets injected with 100 milligrams.  That person got injected with a single poison that could kill a hundred men.
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#37  Edited By vegeta
@Porlos said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @castleking: So a single poison injected into a person kills an army of men? it's hyperbole.  He knows every poison there is and has studied all living animals. he should have a decent enough one in his arsenal "
It means the poison is so concentrated that a fraction of it would be enough to kill a normal man.  Like say a milligram of poison can kill a normal man, but a person gets injected with 100 milligrams.  That person got injected with a single poison that could kill a hundred men. "

still wouldnt slow wolvie down
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#38  Edited By geraldthesloth
@castleking said:
" @geraldthesloth said:

" @castleking: So a single poison injected into a person kills an army of men? it's hyperbole.  He knows every poison there is and has studied all living animals. he should have a decent enough one in his arsenal "

thats not hyperbole if you have a vial of poison with the potency to kill a herd of elephants or men then all you do is spread it in the water and let them drink it in order to increase the volume........... your arguing semantics  b/c you cant grasp the very basic concept of mass/volume and potency.....
 
 
also hyperbole would be your statement of kraven studying every living animal and knowing every poison.... seeing as Zaran was the only outside person allowed to live with a mystical tribe and learn their mystic arts of stealth and poison... that was an on panel explanation of zaran....
 
Kraven has no mention saying he has studied and lived with zaran's tribe.
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I never implied that Kraven was a member of Zarans tribe
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#39  Edited By castleking
then how would kraven know every poison then?
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#40  Edited By geraldthesloth
@castleking said:
" then how would kraven know every poison then?
"
I never said he knew all poisons I said he has good knowledge of them, and has studied every animal in earth's existence there's a difference between knowing poisons in the wilderness and from animals like a poison dart frog compared to a home made concoction
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#41  Edited By Andferne
@Lunacyde said:
" Sergei has taken down every animal on earth with his bare hands. He has 2 ton strength, reflexes and durability to tangle consistently with Spider-Man and sometime win. He is a 6 in fighting skill and has shown the ability to stop a charging bull elephant in it's tracks. He knows Wolvrine's tendencies, he knows how his power work, he isn't going to take him lightly. He will hit Logan with a poison tipped dart or two before Wolverine knows he is there. It's all a matter of remaining downwind, and this poison is strong enough to knock out Spider-Man in seconds. X-23 was smart enough to defeat Wolverine by rubbing dirt in his wounds so they wouldn't heal, whats to stop the worlds greatest hunter from doing the same? Also current Wolverine's HF hasn't been spectacular as of late. "
Enough reasons to make me believe Kraven could pull off a win.
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#42  Edited By vegeta
@Andferne said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" Sergei has taken down every animal on earth with his bare hands. He has 2 ton strength, reflexes and durability to tangle consistently with Spider-Man and sometime win. He is a 6 in fighting skill and has shown the ability to stop a charging bull elephant in it's tracks. He knows Wolvrine's tendencies, he knows how his power work, he isn't going to take him lightly. He will hit Logan with a poison tipped dart or two before Wolverine knows he is there. It's all a matter of remaining downwind, and this poison is strong enough to knock out Spider-Man in seconds. X-23 was smart enough to defeat Wolverine by rubbing dirt in his wounds so they wouldn't heal, whats to stop the worlds greatest hunter from doing the same? Also current Wolverine's HF hasn't been spectacular as of late. "
Enough reasons to make me believe Kraven could pull off a win. "

all good untill the not knowing he was there wolvie would smell him
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#43  Edited By geraldthesloth
@vegeta said:
" @Andferne said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" Sergei has taken down every animal on earth with his bare hands. He has 2 ton strength, reflexes and durability to tangle consistently with Spider-Man and sometime win. He is a 6 in fighting skill and has shown the ability to stop a charging bull elephant in it's tracks. He knows Wolvrine's tendencies, he knows how his power work, he isn't going to take him lightly. He will hit Logan with a poison tipped dart or two before Wolverine knows he is there. It's all a matter of remaining downwind, and this poison is strong enough to knock out Spider-Man in seconds. X-23 was smart enough to defeat Wolverine by rubbing dirt in his wounds so they wouldn't heal, whats to stop the worlds greatest hunter from doing the same? Also current Wolverine's HF hasn't been spectacular as of late. "
Enough reasons to make me believe Kraven could pull off a win. "
all good untill the not knowing he was there wolvie would smell him "
Even though he doesn't know Kraven's distinct scent, good job.
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@geraldthesloth said:
" @vegeta said:
" @Andferne said:
" @Lunacyde said:
" Sergei has taken down every animal on earth with his bare hands. He has 2 ton strength, reflexes and durability to tangle consistently with Spider-Man and sometime win. He is a 6 in fighting skill and has shown the ability to stop a charging bull elephant in it's tracks. He knows Wolvrine's tendencies, he knows how his power work, he isn't going to take him lightly. He will hit Logan with a poison tipped dart or two before Wolverine knows he is there. It's all a matter of remaining downwind, and this poison is strong enough to knock out Spider-Man in seconds. X-23 was smart enough to defeat Wolverine by rubbing dirt in his wounds so they wouldn't heal, whats to stop the worlds greatest hunter from doing the same? Also current Wolverine's HF hasn't been spectacular as of late. "
Enough reasons to make me believe Kraven could pull off a win. "
all good untill the not knowing he was there wolvie would smell him "
Even though he doesn't know Kraven's distinct scent, good job. "

what is wrong with yall peeps human smell not kraven unique smell human 
im they are in the jungle im pretty sure they are alone so wolvie would smell a human tracking him and turn the hunter into the hunted
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@geraldthesloth said:
" @castleking said:
" then how would kraven know every poison then?
"
I never said he knew all poisons I said he has good knowledge of them, and has studied every animal in earth's existence there's a difference between knowing poisons in the wilderness and from animals like a poison dart frog compared to a home made concoction "
so he has hunted every animal on earth? now that is hyperbole..... what about the hunter in darkness, the wendigo, sasquatch....the various wild were creatures.......
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@castleking said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @castleking said:
" then how would kraven know every poison then?
"
I never said he knew all poisons I said he has good knowledge of them, and has studied every animal in earth's existence there's a difference between knowing poisons in the wilderness and from animals like a poison dart frog compared to a home made concoction "
so he has hunted every animal on earth? now that is hyperbole..... what about the hunter in darkness, the wendigo, sasquatch....the various wild were creatures....... "

thats right what about them wolvie has faired well not all the time against wendigo can kraven bring him down i dont think so
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#47  Edited By Andferne
@vegeta said:
"all good untill the not knowing he was there wolvie would smell him "
That's the beautiful thing about being able to set up the encounter and staying down wind.
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#48  Edited By geraldthesloth
@castleking said:
" @geraldthesloth said:
" @castleking said:
" then how would kraven know every poison then?
"
I never said he knew all poisons I said he has good knowledge of them, and has studied every animal in earth's existence there's a difference between knowing poisons in the wilderness and from animals like a poison dart frog compared to a home made concoction "
so he has hunted every animal on earth? now that is hyperbole..... what about the hunter in darkness, the wendigo, sasquatch....the various wild were creatures....... "
Right, Kraven doesn't do mystics, I'm talking along the lines of everything outside of the supernatural border.
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@Andferne said:
" @vegeta said:
"all good untill the not knowing he was there wolvie would smell him "
That's the beautiful thing about being able to set up the encounter and staying down wind. "

true but in order to attack hes got to get close enough and down wind or not hed smell him 
wolvie always seems too know when he is being watched
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@geraldthesloth said:
" @castleking said:
" @geraldthesloth said:

so he has hunted every animal on earth? now that is hyperbole..... what about the hunter in darkness, the wendigo, sasquatch....the various wild were creatures....... "
Right, Kraven doesn't do mystics, I'm talking along the lines of everything outside of the supernatural border. "
those are wild creatures just like logan and if you what to add the mystic line draw logan is technially a wild forest spirit as well and is recognized by various mystic animals, spirits and shamans.......... so where in comics has it stated that Kraven has hunted every animal in the marvel U...