Wolverine vs Black Tarantula

- Wolverine (bone claw)

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
                     vs.

 
- Black Tarantula

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
- Location:

- Hell's Kitchen.

- Start 25 feet apart.

 
- Rules:

- In Character.

- Random encounter.

- Standard equipment.

- Standard elimination rules apply.

Wolverine

Black Tarantula.

BT is strong enough to KO logan, he takes this pretty easily

Black Tarantula wins.

Black Tarantula.

@Nefarious said:

Black Tarantula wins.

Heh.

Shut down.. not really.

@Strider92 said:

Black Tarantula. Stronger, faster and more versatile.

If he can down Spider-man that easily (twice) i'm pretty sure he'll rip through Logan.

Without the webbing to incapacitate, Logan would rip through Spider-Man as well.

Wolverine's tagged Spider-Man just fine. He holds back with Petey. Won't give a rat's arse about BT though. Bone Wolverine heals through viscous damage in seconds as well. Getting run over and effectively crushed by a speeding truck didn't even cause him pause. Ridiculous healing factor. We've seen plenty 10-25 tonne folks rip into Logan unable to KO him. Spider-Man included. Only way to stop him would be for BT to rip off his head.

I just think Wolverine's claws get rammed through BT's noggin before that happens is all. BT is no where near Wolverine's skill level and his speed won't make up for that.

Eh, Bone-Clawed Wolverine is less durable, but is quicker with an improved healing factor. However, BT is MUCH stronger and agile than him. Each avatar of the BT inherits the combat experience of all of the BTs before it. BT demonstrated it by man-handling Spider-Man with ease. Wolverine is fast also, and kept up with Spidey, but I don't remember him doing that much damage to him that Tarantula was inflicting or completely blitzing and out-muscling him. We can't forget that BT can emit powerful, concussive blasts from his eyes. Logan is without adamatium here, so if BT uses it, it should KO Wolverine for a while, resulting in a win. He can only use it once per a certain amount of time, making it a last effort move.

I'm going with BT, but Wolverine will put up some resistance. Adamatium-laced Wolvie has a better chance to me.

@Strider92 said:

Spider-man may have said Wolverine might be faster than him but none of his feats have shown Wolverine being in Spider-man's league for speed. This is just one of those things like when Doctor Strange said that Ghost Rider's powers where on a godlike scale and yet we haven't seen anything to prove that. From what I can make out:

Strength: BT as he's a 25 tonner.

Speed: Probably Wolverine but not by a huge margin.

Reflexes: Most likely BT as he was able to grab Spider-man while he was speed blitzing something not a lot of people have been able to do.

Durability: Wolverine unless we're only using ASM BT in which case his healing abilities could be on par with Wolverine's as he healed a broken neck in seconds.

The way I see it Wolverine without his adimantium isn't going to stand much of a chance as when BT grabs hold of him its pretty much over because Logan won't be able to break from his grip. If Wolverine keeps his distance and plays it safe darting in and out then he could win. Problem is that's not Logans preferred fighting style. He tends to rush in relying on his healing factor and unfortunately for him, his opponent is strong enough and brutal enough to just tear him to pieces. I'd give BT a 7/10 win here.

Wolverine doesn't keep his distance because he wouldn't have to. He wouldn't care about getting grabbed or breaking the grip. He'd lop off the arm or ram his claws through BT's noggin before having his neck broke (which he'd heal from damn fast if not immediately) or ripped off. The worst thing BT could try with Logan is to grapple with him cuz then he's leaving his head and neck open to all kinds of trauma.

Ironically, BT's only real chance is keeping his distance and going for a KO strike (or at least a temporary stun) then try to work his way in to tear Logan apart.

I doubt Bone-Claws would do that much damage to BT unless Wolverine chain his attacks together quickly, but BT should be able to catch him and take him out. Also, if Spider-Man was more confident, or bloodlusted, and use his physical attributes completely, he should be able to handle Logan easily.

@Strider92 said:

@Super_SoldierXII said:

Wolverine doesn't keep his distance because he wouldn't have to.

He would. BT is strong enough to pin him quite easily.

He wouldn't care about getting grabbed or breaking the grip.

true because Logan's fighting style is to act like that which in this case is his disadvantage. All Carlos has to do is rip Logan's head off and he'll win via incapacitation. Carlos has to much of physical advantage here.

Oh ... that's all? All he simply has to do is rip Logan's head off huh? Well, OK then. (Being more playful than snide here - please don't take offense!)

No he would not manhandle Wolverine that way. Interesting you should think tearing off Logan's head and getting in close enough to do so would be such a simple affair. In close is where Logan excels.

I don't care how 'strong' you are. By your account, he's just going to move in and grapple a dude with 6 twelve inch claws extruded from his hands. Any idea how that would turn out with but a dash of realism? You're essentially talking about a grapple with a master hand to hand artist wielding weapons in each hand that could drop BT with one clear shot to the head with plenty skill and speed feats backing his ability to do so ... not going to end well.

And let's not pretend Logan doesn't need but one clean right cross to the face on BT to drop him. Sabretooth got dropped with a fistful of claws to the head (very recently) and his healing factor is better than anything I've heard or seen BT withstanding.

In short, to survive initiating a grappling match with Logan, BT would somehow magically have to have his hands on both of Wolverine's wrists at the get-go. And then what? Really don't see that happening.

Wolverine's handled strong dudes aplenty. He has traded mitts with Roughouse, a 75 tonner, and was just fine (KO'd him and didn't even use his claws). Heck, even She-Hulk (who had to come up behind Wolverine - BT won't have that luxury) had a hard time holding him in a full on bear-hug with both arms wrapped around his torso. Were she to have come head on he would have gutted her.

As to his bone claws - he's driven them through steel with zero trouble on numerous occasions. They are more than capable of carving up BT (more addressed to the above poster than yourself).

I don't see BT trading mitts with non-jobber Logan working in his favor. Even without the metal. It's just a bad fight for any 10-25 tonner really IMO. But I respect your opinion nonetheless.

Tarantula is a worth opponent however spider-man is easier to grapple than Logan. I can't see BT grappling logan unless he momentarily in capacitates him by throwing a truck at him or with eye blasts (although those wont keep logan down for long). Logan's claws would do more damage than spidey's fists and if logan isn't holding back i see him beating BT 6/10 times. It really depends where the fight is as well. close range, Wolvie tears him a new nostril, in an open field with lots of trucks and other things for tarantula to throw at him BT could win the majority.

@rd2race said:

Tarantula is a worth opponent however spider-man is easier to grapple than Logan. I can't see BT grappling logan unless he momentarily in capacitates him by throwing a truck at him or with eye blasts (although those wont keep logan down for long). Logan's claws would do more damage than spidey's fists and if logan isn't holding back i see him beating BT 6/10 times. It really depends where the fight is as well. close range, Wolvie tears him a new nostril, in an open field with lots of trucks and other things for tarantula to throw at him BT could win the majority.

Good assessment. I agree.

@cooljammy18 said:

I doubt Bone-Claws would do that much damage to BT unless Wolverine chain his attacks together quickly, but BT should be able to catch him and take him out. Also, if Spider-Man was more confident, or bloodlusted, and use his physical attributes completely, he should be able to handle Logan easily.

There is no state Parker can put himself into that would see him handling Wolverine 'easily'. The only way Parker wins is via incapacitation. And in this way, he does indeed win. But based off the culmination of their actual showings, and not just fan based opinion, he would not take Logan out at all in a brawl, let alone 'easily'.

Spidey's been pissed off at Logan AT LEAST four times that I know of. Two of these times he completely lost it on Wolverine, and unloaded without restraint on Logan's face to no effect. One is the infamous graveyard scene and the other is more recent, in training when Logan accidentally cut Petey. Logan remained unfazed both times. There is a third time in New Avengers where Spider-Man had enough of Logan's antics, loses it yet again and decks Wolverine with one clean, no holds barred haymaker (Spider can afford to lose it on Wolverine without killing him and knows it). Logan pins him immediately with claws to face. Not too impressive thus far.

And yet... one hit from behind and goodnight Parker;

Bottom line, Wolverine is too durable for Parker to take out based off showings. Even a pissed off Parker. Logan's low-end KO's (and they do constitute the bulk of his low-end showings) were to top tier hand to handers. The only one of these that is not questionable IMO is an exhausted Logan's KO during Enemy of the State at the hands of Captain America's shield. He has far too many high durability moments that contradict the handful of jobber moments too many Viners cling to in their debates to knock Wolverine down a peg or three (he's short enough dammit!). Again, based off showings, Spider-Man in no way shape or form takes Wolverine out in a brawl 'easily' and neither does BT.

Logan is just so inconsistently written, it makes it hard to fairly evaluate him in a battle like

@jashro44:

I agree. That's why I put it in there ... a preemptive strike against those tempted to touting Wolverine getting KO'd by peak humans as justification for BT or Spidey taking him down. Meant to be a statement against PIS showings more than an affirmation that Wolverine could actually one shot Spidey. With claws retracted, he could do no such thing. All characters have their share of PIS. It feels as though far fewer actually call it out with regards to Wolverine than other characters at times IMO. Which brings me to my next point;

@BringnIt:

He is inconsistent indeed ... but most iconic characters are. At his core, he is not different from, say, Spider-Man in this regard (if written correctly, Spider-Man would have avoided/if written correctly, Wolverine would bust out the skillz - they hold back etc. etc.).

Wolverine is only different from Spidey in that he is a love/hate kinda character. There are not too many who truly hate Spider-Man as a character. At most, there is indifference. Same with Cap, Black Panther, even Batman. However, Logan is either loved or hated I find, creating two camps on the Vine. The camp that hates digs up and adheres to all his low end showings to discredit when and where possible. The love camp says nay nay, Wolverine tanks the Hulk etc. etc.

But too few seem able to note the consistencies ... and there are large pools of consistencies. Perhaps because there are few who read Wolverine consistently. Who knows. Just my two cents.

@Strider92:

For the record, it was bone Wolverine that got hit by the truck, got crushed then immediately back to his feet. During the Onslaught saga, the Xavier files indicated the only way to put Bone Wolverine down was to separate head from body and keep them separated for an extended period. Bone Wolverine's superior healing factor still saw him tanking incredible hits (Hulk included).

Wolverine hitting Spider-Man just fine is pertinent to this debate. So what makes you feel he hasn't or couldn't? Keep in mind, I can post a handful of times wherein he can and has ... fact is, most if not all of Petey's antagonists can and have hit him. He is not untouchable.

@Strider92 said:

@Super_SoldierXII said:

@Strider92:

Wolverine hitting Spider-Man just fine is pertinent to this debate. So what makes you feel he hasn't or couldn't? Keep in mind, I can post a handful of times wherein he can and has ... fact is, most if not all of Petey's antagonists can and have hit him. He is not untouchable.

Theres only 2 times I can think of when Wovlerine has hit him. Once was that time in the grave yard when he was still pretty young and inexperienced and the second was during the training session which was debunked due to the fact Spider-man was dying as the "Other" was killing him so he wasn't functioning anywhere near 100%. A nameless Hydra agent almost managed to kill him so Wolverine beating that a Spider-man so weak a nameless thug could have taken him down is not a good feat.

Wolverine's grabbed and pinned Spider-Man twice with claws to face (once in New Avengers and once in Mcfarlane's mini-series). He's hit him numerous times across a rooftop when Spidey took him for an imposter wearing a hero's uniform during the time the X-Men were supposed to be dead. Spidey catches himself NOT holding back after destroying a brick chimney after a swing and a miss attempt on Logan, and cautions himself to cool it as he wouldn't want to kill this dude should he connect (which he was unable to do initially). Wolverine got the better part of that exchange. I'll post a few picks of others when I've a chance later. But Wolverine can hit Spider-Man and what's more, he can and has soaked everything Spidey has thrown at him. Spider-Man ultimately wins this fight due to incapacitation ... but that is all.

I'm leaning towards Black Tarantula.