#51 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"Both r just regular humans. Both are faster and more skilled than Wolverine. Batman has more weapons at his disposal and is smarter than Cap.How can Cap stand a chance and not Batman? "

Because Cap is an enhanced human being. He isn't normal. He could outlast Batman because of it. He's more capable of fighting Wolvie that Bats is. And, no. Batman isn't faster than Wolvie. Wolverine possesses superhuman agility. Cap has peak human agility, like Batman, but it is greater because of his enhanced abilities.

#52 Posted by Andferne (38808 posts) - - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"Cap lifts 50 lbs more than Batman so he has what it takes to win. If Cap can win Batman has even more of a chance"

? Where did you find that at? Theres got to be a bigger differance than 50 pounds between what Cap and Bat lift.

#53 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Andferne says:

"Alpha says:
"Cap lifts 50 lbs more than Batman so he has what it takes to win. If Cap can win Batman has even more of a chance"

? Where did you find that at? Theres got to be a bigger differance than 50 pounds between what Cap and Bat lift."

According to DC database's Strength Scale, Batman is capable of lifting 800 lbs. Cap lifts 1100 lbs (from what I read in a comic). Cap's limit is NOT 800 lbs. and is much stronger than Batman.
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#54 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

Andferne says:

"Alpha says:
"Cap lifts 50 lbs more than Batman so he has what it takes to win. If Cap can win Batman has even more of a chance"
? Where did you find that at? Theres got to be a bigger differance than 50 pounds between what Cap and Bat lift."

Batman is the pinnacle of human strength (like Black Panther) at 750 lbs. Cap is at 800 because of the serum.

It's possible that he may be a little less than BP (with his herb and all) but not much.

#55 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Andferne says:
"Alpha says:
"Cap lifts 50 lbs more than Batman so he has what it takes to win. If Cap can win Batman has even more of a chance"
? Where did you find that at? Theres got to be a bigger differance than 50 pounds between what Cap and Bat lift."
According to DC database's Strength Scale, Batman is capable of lifting 800 lbs. Cap lifts 1100 lbs (from what I read in a comic). Cap's limit is NOT 800 lbs. and is much stronger than Batman.
Post Edited:2008-01-05 02:51:25"

Wouldn't that put him at superhuman?

Marvel.com has him listed as below superhuman.

#56 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"Wouldn't that put him at superhuman?Marvel.com has him listed as below superhuman. "

1100 lbs. is 900 lbs short of a ton. So, no. He isn't superhuman. He has to lift a ton to be in that class.

#57 Posted by kuchiku (4070 posts) - - Show Bio

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#58 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Alpha says:
"Wouldn't that put him at superhuman? Marvel.com has him listed as below superhuman. "
1100 lbs. is 900 lbs short of a ton. So, no. He isn't superhuman. He has to lift a ton to be in that class."

Ok. I'm willing to accept that what your saying is fact. Even a 300lb difference isn't enough to give the fight to Cap but not Batman.

#59 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Andferne says:

"Well for Cap its not just the strength. His agility, stamina and durability are all enhanced like that. Physically he is Batmans superior. I would put Bats at being a lot smarter, and about the same in tactics. "

Agreed. Happy 1000 posts, Andferne. :P
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#60 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

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OK. That changed my mind! lol

#61 Posted by Andferne (38808 posts) - - Show Bio

Well for Cap its not just the strength. His agility, stamina and durability are all enhanced like that. Physically he is Batmans superior. I would put Bats at being a lot smarter, and about the same in tactics.

#62 Posted by Andferne (38808 posts) - - Show Bio

WOOT :) thanx

#63 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

Stamina and durability I would give him. And he is physically superior, like Bane. But that doesn't make him the winner. Skill and brains count a lot. A smart and skilled fighter can win over a brawler.

#64 Posted by Phorqe (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America would beat the piss out of Batman, as well as Wolverine. Bane broke Batman's back. Cap beat Bane with one move. America, F--- YEAH!

#65 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

Phorqe says:

"Captain America would beat the piss out of Batman, as well as Wolverine. Bane broke Batman's back. Cap beat Bane with one move. America, F--- YEAH!"

Uhh! OooKay!

#66 Posted by Rdeegvainl (775 posts) - - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"Stamina and durability I would give him. And he is physically superior, like Bane. But that doesn't make him the winner. Skill and brains count a lot. A smart and skilled fighter can win over a brawler."

When it comes to fighting logan, you need all the stamina and durability you can get. Also 300lb more strength is a very significant difference. Bats just doesn't have what it takes to fight Logan in this situation. Oh, and cap has the vibranium shield when Logan uses his adamantium claws. Serious question, what does Bats have to resist that?

#67 Posted by Alpha (7331 posts) - - Show Bio

Rdeegvainl says:

"Alpha says:
"Stamina and durability I would give him. And he is physically superior, like Bane. But that doesn't make him the winner. Skill and brains count a lot. A smart and skilled fighter can win over a brawler."
When it comes to fighting logan, you need all the stamina and durability you can get. Also 300lb more strength is a very significant difference. Bats just doesn't have what it takes to fight Logan in this situation. Oh, and cap has the vibranium shield when Logan uses his adamantium claws. Serious question, what does Bats have to resist that?"

Nothing but his wit which has beaten guys like Killer Croc and Bane. Batman knows how to take advantage of a weakness. He studies his opponent during a fight and when brawn doesn't do it, he uses his head. Why would Cap have any greater chance? 300 lbs is a signifcant difference, but what would that do against Wolverine? Strength wouldn't be the answer against him. Not from regular guys like Cap and Bats. It would take brains, which Batman has in abundance.

And Bats has an arsenal of weapons. I'm sure he would have something in his belt that would immobilize Wolverine.

#68 Posted by Barry Flash (1573 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Batman is a better fighter and could probably dodge a few of Wolverine's strikes of his Claw's but sooner or later Batman would have to make a move with some sort of Gadget.

Don't know which, but i'm sure he will get out of this one way or another.

#69 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Alpha says:

"Nothing but his wit which has beaten guys like Killer Croc and Bane. Batman knows how to take advantage of a weakness. He studies his opponent during a fight and when brawn doesn't do it, he uses his head. Why would Cap have any greater chance? 300 lbs is a signifcant difference, but what would that do against Wolverine? Strength wouldn't be the answer against him. Not from regular guys like Cap and Bats. It would take brains, which Batman has in abundance.And Bats has an arsenal of weapons. I'm sure he would have something in his belt that would immobilize Wolverine. "

Killer Croc is a pushover. Tim Drake defeated him while blindfolded. Batman has never defeated Bane, though. Bane defeated him using his head and his strength. Cap has a greater chance against Wolverine because he is an enhanced human being. All of his attributes are far past Batman's, so isn't just strength.

Also, Batman doesn't have a defense against Wolverine's claws. But, either way you look at it, Bats is a slouch compared to Cap and Wolvie.

As for the utility belt, I doubt Bats has anything in it to stop Wolverine. I doubt simple tranquilizers would work. I don't know about knockout gas either.

#70 Posted by Clantern (666 posts) - - Show Bio

I think batman will try and hold wolverine off for as long as he could while trying to lok at his physique and skill and weeknesses.


Sonner or later batman will figure out his weekness and flee in his batmobile while distracting Logan with bats.


Next time they fight batman takes it with ease, using a magnet from his batmobile!.

or

Wolverine runs at him straight away and puts a claw through his eye.

#71 Posted by symbiote5 (2183 posts) - - Show Bio
well when you think about it when does woverine actually use his claws on somebody i mean he really uses it on objects but if its wolverine with admantium and rage then i say wolverine
#72 Posted by kaino12 (3151 posts) - - Show Bio

batman has plot-a-merangs but wolverine literaly has plot armor.i think at some point batman would start asking questions and then the truth would come out and noone would win.

#73 Posted by Alexander Anderson (4030 posts) - - Show Bio
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#75 Posted by TheDrifter (26563 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolvie

#76 Posted by Kypher (4 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Batman can win

#77 Posted by symbiote5 (2183 posts) - - Show Bio
wolverine never really prefers to use his claws on people unless in rage and batman smarte so he could win
#78 Posted by Watch Dog (834 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine  in this situation,
but have faith in the bat to escape and when next they meet I would say it's about a 50 50 shot rimimber both of theas guys are acompleshed fighters,adventurs and super heros  used to facing and winnig agensed enameys who were saposidly supper to them

#79 Posted by Dark King (3727 posts) - - Show Bio

wolve would gut bats  FTW

#80 Edited by time (5173 posts) - - Show Bio

good match but wolverine would win hands down, wolverine can't really be killed.

#81 Posted by never give up (9726 posts) - - Show Bio

lol time every time I see you I laugh.

#82 Posted by Ball Buster (2041 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine ftw.

#83 Posted by LordCosmicKing (2629 posts) - - Show Bio

wolverine

#84 Posted by Vance Astro (91415 posts) - - Show Bio
@LordCosmicKing said:
" wolverine "
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#85 Posted by GT-Man (3945 posts) - - Show Bio

TIE
#86 Posted by Vance Astro (91415 posts) - - Show Bio
@GT-Man said:
" TIE "
Hell no.
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#87 Posted by GT-Man (3945 posts) - - Show Bio

well thier both major badasses
#88 Posted by GT-Man (3945 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro:
hell yes and your probly not going to see this i hope but bats wins ahahahaahhaaha
#89 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine.

#90 Posted by NickA (2216 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock:
not really it takes years to master a single martial art style 
and their are god knows how many martial arts 200+
he would have to be aleast near a thousand years old
#91 Posted by GT-Man (3945 posts) - - Show Bio

bats no w
#92 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio
@NickA said:
" @Static Shock: not really it takes years to master a single martial art style and their are god knows how many martial arts 200+ he would have to be aleast near a thousand years old "
In the comic book world, there are many characters that have mastered several, most, or all forms of martial arts styles and it didn't take them that long to master them. Just because it's unrealistic doesn't mean it isn't valid. Wolverine is established as a master of all forms, hate it or love it, and he's about 120 years old. It's even in the Handbook. Batman himself has been established as a master of 127 styles, and even though he's in his mid-thirties, it's still valid. I could name several characters that have done the same thing. Doesn't mean it's wrong. It's fiction.
#93 Posted by Erik (33327 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock: 
Completely agree. In the comic book world, these kinds of things are believable. Wolverine, Batman and several others are just naturals.
#94 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio
@erik: Exactly. I don't know why people try to argue against that kind of thing.
#95 Posted by Vance Astro (91415 posts) - - Show Bio
@NickA said:
" @Static Shock: not really it takes years to master a single martial art style and their are god knows how many martial arts 200+ he would have to be aleast near a thousand years old "
GTFOH...
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#96 Posted by GT-Man (3945 posts) - - Show Bio
@GT-Man:
dang it i mean wolverine aahahaha
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#98 Posted by spidey 15 (17693 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine after a pretty good fight. 
=]

#99 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15040 posts) - - Show Bio

Current Batman in his new armor would obliterate Wolverine 

#100 Posted by Maniac1997 (49 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sparda said:
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Batman is a better fighter, he could maybe use some of his standard gadgets (gas pellets, batarangs, etc.) to KO Wolvie (the gas pellets there). But for most purposes, Wolverine will probably just heal and then either fight with Batman until he gets exhausted and then kill him......or get lucky and kill hi@Sparda:

Leave the vine no way is batman abetter fighter than wolverine wolverine has MASTERD not trains every martial art on the world not even sure if batman trained for all of them plus wolverine is immune most gases and diseases