Wolverine Characters VS Spider-Man Characters

Me continuing with my ever enjoyable habit of Spidey vs Logan fight variants.

This is a series of one-on-one fights. You only have to give your opinion on fights you have enough foreknowledge on. Do tell me if there are mismatches.

In Character, No BFR or web incap, fight takes place in city.

Matchups:

Wolverine vs Kaine

Ben Reily vs Gorgon

X-23 vs Rhino

Spider-Man vs Omega Red

Kraven vs Mr. X

Spider-Man 2099 vs Sabertooth

Silver Samurai vs Lizard

Lady Deathstrike vs Speed Demon(post-thunderbolts, no jobbing)

Green Goblin vs Deadpool

Agent Zero vs Kingpin

Doctor Octopus vs Ogun

Cyber vs Hobgoblin(composite)

SpOck vs Wendigo

Gorgon soloes everyone and ya mom :)

Bold matchups win all though it depends if ogun is allowed to posses doctor octopus. If he is limited to a human body I give it to ock.

1. Could go either way.

2. Gorgon

3. X-23

4. Omega Red

5. Kraven (Mister X has a bit of a Jobber Aura and Kraven has been impressive of late)

6. Miguel

7.Lizard

8.Speed Demon

9.GG

10. Agent Zero

11.Ogun

12. Hobgoblin

13. Wendigo.

50/50 Split lol

@jashro44: No possession. Didn't even know Ogun could do that.

Irrelevent in one-on-one fights.

@highaccuser: I just figured, because the title is in a team-like setting. "One Group vs Another Group".

@laflux:

1. Could go either way.

This is why you're my n%gga.

@monsterstomp: Peter and Kaine disagree.

Seems accurate. Except Kraven might be able to take Mr. X. I noticed you didn't highlight a Green Goblin vs Deadpool victor either. Norman could probably edge the majority in that one in my opinion.

@granitesoldier: They only disagree because they clearly can't handle his stremph.

Due to lack of visual you can't see me rolling my eyes right now.

@granitesoldier: Due to lack of physical you can't even dougie.

MonsterStomp's dougie prevails.

@wolverine08: You got Kate Upton's dougie in that art gallery of yours?

Dougie? I don't even know what that is haha.

@granitesoldier: Its a black man's dance!

...

Yeah!

Hm, didn't know there were racial-specific dances!

Well. Africans have their traditional dances. I was being sarcastic though. Its a type of dance where you just look like you own the club. It owns every dance!

@highaccuser: Yea:

Gallery

Here are scans of Ogun possessing people if you want.

@granitesoldier Personally I think Mister X is a bad matchup for Kraven. Its true that Kraven has been impressive and most of X's best stuff is under frank terri I would say however he did catch black widows dart and toss it at song bird. This tells me Kraven will be hard pressed to tag X with poison and that Kravens own poisons could possibly be used against him. I would say Mister X is more skilled based on training in every fighting style on the planet along with some alien ones, and his fights with wolverine and taskmaster. I would also say he is faster based on deflecting like 20 bullets with a smile. And his bladed weapons have the means to take Kraven down. Additionally stealth isn't an option as mister X has countered wolverine with his back turned using his powers and he did detect ghost while he was invisible and watching him (admittedly ghost did get the drop on him before due to his intangible brain as well but i call WIS as that doesn't make sense and the instance of him detecting ghost came 2 issues later so it seems inconsistent, regardless this wouldn't be relevant as kraven can't turn intangible but I digress). The major advantages Kraven has are strength which shouldn't be too relevant since Mister X uses bladed weapons anyways so damage output is even (since kraven uses spears), and Kraven has the healing factor. However mister X regularly fights someone with a healing factor and I would say he's proven to know how to deal with those so thats not too significant of an advantage for Kraven IMO.

As for Norman I think if deadpool has his bottomless satchel he has a shot at beating him (all though I think he sold it in deadpool #27 IIRC in one of those wedding stories...) as that would mean he carries stuff like snipers and rocket launchers and I doubt Normans armour would protect him. Without it I think deadpool will have a hard time getting him off his glider and it depends what he is carrying. Small arms won't put Norman down.

Basically it depends on gear IMO. All though I can see it going either way.

@jashro44: Kraven can't be killed except by Spidey though, and Kraven doesn't only poison his ranged weapons. He's poisoned spears and the like before. If he can tag in melee he could apply the poison.

Norman should be able to blow Deadpool up, even if that doesn't kill him it takes him out of the fight for a bit. Unless, like you said, he has the satchel of "I win".

Well if he tags Mister X with a spear than I imagine X would be dead basically. Unless he like only skimmed him. However something I forgot to mention is that in melee swords>>>Spears. Spears can be cut in half so I would say Mister X has the advantage weapon wise in melee combat as well. He may not be able to kill Kraven but he should be able to incapacitate him. Worst case scenario he is forced to cut his head off.

I agree Norman can put him down (although the healing factor might help) but deadpool is pretty fast and skilled...Maybe not as fast and agile as Peter but I don't think he needs to be. Granted Normans bombs can have a pretty large explosion but I don't recall any noteable accuracy feats from him. Granted deadpool doesn't have a lot of feats of shooting bullet timers he does probably have the edge in accuracy.

Spears aside Kraven usually packs a knife or two as well. He's got most distances covered.

I agree that Norman and Deadpool is close no matter how it breaks down, I just think Norman gets the nod in the end.

True but Mister X has the reach advantage if kraven uses his knife/knives.

I can understand that.

@monsterstomp: @wolverine08: @granitesoldier: @jashro44:

Round 2 now:

Kaine vs Gorgon

X-23 vs Omega Red

Kraven or Mr. X(whoever you think has a chance at winning) vs Spider-Man 2099

Lizard vs Speed Demon

Green Goblin vs Agent Zero

Doctor Octopus vs Composite Hobgoblin

Wendigo vs Ultimate Green Goblin

Round 2 now:

Kaine vs Gorgon Original Kaine can win Gorgon takes majority on Scarlet Spider

X-23 vs Omega Red

Kraven or Mr. X(whoever you think has a chance at winning) vs Spider-Man 2099

Lizard vs Speed Demon

Green Goblin vs Agent Zero

Doctor Octopus vs Composite Hobgoblin

Wendigo vs Ultimate Green Goblin

Wolverine vs Kaine

Ben Reily vs Gorgon

X-23 vs Rhino

Spider-Man vs Omega Red

Kraven vs Mr. X

Spider-Man 2099 vs Sabertooth

Silver Samurai vs Lizard

Lady Deathstrike vs Speed Demon(post-thunderbolts, no jobbing)

Green Goblin vs Deadpool

Agent Zero vs Kingpin

Doctor Octopus vs Ogun

Cyber vs Hobgoblin(composite)

SpOck vs Wendigo

Kaine vs Gorgon

X-23 vs Omega Red

Kraven or Mr. X(whoever you think has a chance at winning) vs Spider-Man 2099

Lizard vs Speed Demon

Green Goblin vs Agent Zero

Doctor Octopus vs Composite Hobgoblin

Wendigo vs Ultimate Green Goblin

Gorgon.

Omega Red.

Kraven.

Lizard if DD o's jobbing.

Norman.

Hobogoblin.

Wendigo.

What do you mean when you say composite hobgoblin? Do you mean he gets the feats of all the hobgoblins?

Kaine vs Gorgon

X-23 vs Omega Red

Kraven or Mr. X(whoever you think has a chance at winning) vs Spider-Man 2099

Lizard vs Speed Demon

Green Goblin vs Agent Zero

Doctor Octopus vs Composite Hobgoblin

Wendigo vs Ultimate Green Goblin

@jashro44: yeah, feats from all hobgoblins. I don't know their distinctions.

@highaccuser: hobgoblin than due to Phils laugh if that counts. Otto doesn't have much a counter for it.

Kaine vs Gorgon

X-23 vs Omega Red

Kraven or Mr. X(whoever you think has a chance at winning) vs Spider-Man 2099

Lizard vs Speed Demon

Green Goblin vs Agent Zero

Doctor Octopus vs Composite Hobgoblin

Wendigo vs Ultimate Green Goblin

@night4345: @dorukesin: @wolverine08: @thetruebarryallen: @jashro44: @dondave:

Round 3:

Gorgon vs Omega Red

Kraven vs lizard

Green Goblin vs Composite Hobgoblin

Wendigo vs Miles Morales(I couldn't think of anyone)

Gorgon

Lizard

Hobgoblin

Wendigo

Round 3:

Gorgon vs Omega Red

Kraven vs lizard

Green Goblin vs Composite Hobgoblin

Wendigo vs Miles Morales(I couldn't think of anyone)

1. Gorgon. HIs healing factor is enough to fend off the death spores and he's fast enough to close the gap without much trouble
2. Lizard. Kraven can't hurt him and even if he could current lizard is faster and much stronger than spider-man plus his healing feats are at least comparable to kravens if not better.
3. Hob goblin due to the laugh
4. Wendigo is too durable.

@thetruebarryallen: @night4345: @jashro44: @dondave:

Round 4:

Gorgon vs Lizard

Wendigo vs Composite Hobgolin

@highaccuser:

• Lizard. He's fast enough to tag gorgon and aside from the stone stare gorogn can't hurt him.
• I'll say Wendigo.

Lizard

Wendigo