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#1 Edited by homicidalmaniac (7598 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1

  • No Prep
  • Current Versions
  • In-Character
  • Bloodlust Off
  • H2H Only
  • No PIS/CIS/WIS
  • Stance Distance is 20 feet
  • Win by KO/Death/BFR

Round 2

  • No Prep
  • Pre-New 52
  • In-Character
  • Bloodlust Off
  • Batman/Nightwing have Standard Gear
  • Wolverine have his Healing Factor
  • Deadpool have a M16(3 Clips),Desert Eagle(3 Clips),One Flashbang,and One Katana
  • No/PIS/CIS/WIS
  • Stance Distance is 30 Feet
  • Win by KO/BFR/Death

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#2 Posted by Dratini1331 (7028 posts) - - Show Bio

@homicidalmaniac: So WIS is okay in R1? :P

I vote Marvel team for both. R1 with deadpool as MVP and Nightwing as the weak link, and R2 for the healing factor edge.

#4 Edited by homicidalmaniac (7598 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20239 posts) - - Show Bio

This is really hard. Wolverine versus Batman. Deadpool versus Nightwing. Now I know Wolverine will probably be able to take down Batman, but it will be a very hard and prolonged fight. I could see Nightwing taking down Deadpool, but in his current run Wade recovers quick and plays dirty. I see Deadpool taking down Nightwing somehow.

So I think the Marvel Team would win. Batman and Wolverine fight it out while Nightwing takes an edge over Wade, and knocks him out. As Batman is tiring and is running out of tricks and Logan closes in, Nightwing comes to assist. However, Deadpool regains consciousness and shoots down Dick. This either results in Wolverine finishing him off or Deadpool and Logan both ganging on him.

#6 Posted by i_like_swords (14328 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1 I hand to Wolverine and Deadpool. Wolverine is on par with Batman and is well ahead of Nightwing. Deadpool is slightly better than Nightwing but no match for Batman, but has his healing factor as a crutch. All in all D&W can win round 1 with moderate difficulty, with Nightwing being the weak link.

Round 2 I also give to Weapon X. Wolverine with his healing back will make shorter work of Batman than he did in round 1, and Deadpool should be all over Nightwing with his much more lethal gear. Wolverine and Deadpools healing factors along with Nightwing being less skilled than both opponents earns them the victory.

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#7 Posted by Wolverine08 (42201 posts) - - Show Bio

Team DC for round 1. While Wolverine and Batman will most likely stalemate, Nightwing will beat Deadpool, and help Bruce beat Wolverine. In round 2, Wolverine could honestly solo with great difficulty.

#8 Posted by Wolverine08 (42201 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, Pool has his HF? Then I could honestly see him and Wolverine winning round 1 too also.

#9 Posted by CF12793 (2992 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1 I hand to Wolverine and Deadpool. Wolverine is on par with Batman and is well ahead of Nightwing. Deadpool is slightly better than Nightwing but no match for Batman, but has his healing factor as a crutch. All in all D&W can win round 1 with moderate difficulty, with Nightwing being the weak link.

Round 2 I also give to Weapon X. Wolverine with his healing back will make shorter work of Batman than he did in round 1, and Deadpool should be all over Nightwing with his much more lethal gear. Wolverine and Deadpools healing factors along with Nightwing being less skilled than both opponents earns them the victory.

I honestly would have written a more detailed response, but I just smoked a huge bowl of really strong weed and forgot everything I wanted to say........... I'm just going to agree with everything that you've said.

#10 Edited by patrat18 (9761 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1 batman and nightwing

Round 2 batman and night wing if BFR is allowed

via magnets.

#11 Edited by i_like_swords (14328 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

Round 1 batman and nightwing

Round 2 batman and night wing if BFR is allowed

How could they BFR?

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#12 Posted by Wolverine08 (42201 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

Round 1 batman and nightwing

Round 2 batman and night wing if BFR is allowed

How the hell will Team DC remove team Marvel from the battle field.

#13 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20239 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

Round 1 batman and nightwing

Round 2 batman and night wing if BFR is allowed

How the hell will Team DC remove team Marvel from the battle field.

@patrat18 said:

Round 1 batman and nightwing

Round 2 batman and night wing if BFR is allowed

How could they BFR?

I really don't know the answer to that guys.

#14 Posted by patrat18 (9761 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: @i_like_swords: Batman has magnets he could start the car use it on wolverine, and then tag team Dp cutting his head off.

#15 Posted by Wolverine08 (42201 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman doesn't consistently carry magnets.

#16 Edited by God_Spawn (37880 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: H2h wise, team 1 should be more skilled, but current Wolverine has apparently forgotten some of his skill despite in the last year or two he killed Daken and was at the very least on par with Captain America, going so far as saying I thought Logan looked to be the better of the two. But Cornell thinks Logan can get slipped up against Batroc the Leaper, and with no HF is susceptible to nerve strikes, something Batman is quite proficient at. But given how Logan is mentally right now, this sudden revelation by Cornell that almost gets rid of the last few years of Logan's skill feats (IE the aforementioned ones, beating Iron Fist in h2h, and humiliating Sabretooth multiple times yada yada yada), and his lack of healing factor is putting Wolverine down a few notches and Batman shouldn't have a ridiculous amount of problems with him. Nightwing isn't so bad he can't hang with Wade, but Deadpool is statistically superior. Tbh, I see Wolverine as the current weak link and thus Team 2 can very well get the majority, but it depends whether Bruce will beat Logan sooner than Wade beats Grayson.

Round 2: Ignoring the Cornell nonsense and putting Logan at his approximate levels, team 1 slaughters team 2. Logan is on par with Bruce in skill, can soak most of what he dishes, and Deadpool's arsenal, skill, and physical stats would be too much for Grayson to handle long. You can switch the roles too. Wolverine would stomp him while Wade can hang with Bats for awhile. Wolverine could actually solo round 2 by himself. Nightwing is a road bump at best, and Bruce shouldn't hang with Wolverine long either.

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#17 Posted by patrat18 (9761 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: If you read a Batman book you would know he does in fact carry them.

#18 Posted by homicidalmaniac (7598 posts) - - Show Bio
#19 Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20239 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

@wolverine08: If you read a Batman book you would know he does in fact carry them.

Well the OP is obviously not going to let Batman use anything other than what's on his belt.

#20 Posted by dondave (37394 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

#21 Posted by Wolverine08 (42201 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

@wolverine08: If you read a Batman book you would know he does in fact carry them.

@patrat18 said:

@wolverine08: If you read a Batman book you would know he does in fact carry them.

I read it, it's not a consistent part of his tool belt.

#22 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20239 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

But Cornell thinks Logan can get slipped up against Batroc the Leaper, and with no HF is susceptible to nerve strikes, something Batman is quite proficient at.

Wait..WHAT? Cornell thinks Wolverine would lose to Batroc? Even in pure hand-to-hand combat I seriously doubt that. Deadpool practically one-shotted him in issue 13.

#23 Posted by CEELO180 (18 posts) - - Show Bio

Deadpool and Wolverine take this. Wolverines adamantium make him unstoppable and Deadpool is a killer. He literally wouldn't stop till they were dead. These two mutants have healing factors as well as deadly weapons which im sorry to say team dc has no counter for.

#24 Posted by patrat18 (9761 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: Its still there don't dismiss it because he used it once, nowhere in the comic does it say he preped the magnets to use in the subway.

#25 Posted by Wolverine08 (42201 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

But Cornell thinks Logan can get slipped up against Batroc the Leaper, and with no HF is susceptible to nerve strikes, something Batman is quite proficient at.

Wait..WHAT? Cornell thinks Wolverine would lose to Batroc? Even in pure hand-to-hand combat I seriously doubt that. Deadpool practically one-shotted him in issue 13.

Cornell's Wolverine is borderline garbage. It's become gratuitously emotional to force drama of Logan becoming mortal, and just been Wolverine getting beat up a lot.

#26 Posted by DecoyElite (4019 posts) - - Show Bio

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: Ah but don't you see Logan is trained in Hand to hand combat and not Hand to foot combat! That will be his downfall against the great Batroc!

#27 Posted by patrat18 (9761 posts) - - Show Bio
#28 Posted by Wolverine08 (42201 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

@wolverine08: Its still there don't dismiss it because he used it once, nowhere in the comic does it say he preped the magnets to use in the subway.

Batman has been shown consistently carrying magents. Therefore, I don't think of them as part of his standard gear.

#29 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20239 posts) - - Show Bio

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@god_spawn said:

But Cornell thinks Logan can get slipped up against Batroc the Leaper, and with no HF is susceptible to nerve strikes, something Batman is quite proficient at.

Wait..WHAT? Cornell thinks Wolverine would lose to Batroc? Even in pure hand-to-hand combat I seriously doubt that. Deadpool practically one-shotted him in issue 13.

Cornell's Wolverine is borderline garbage. It's become gratuitously emotional to force drama of Logan becoming mortal, and just been Wolverine getting beat up a lot.

So it's Dead but with Wolverine?

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: Ah but don't you see Logan is trained in Hand to hand combat and not Hand to foot combat! That will be his downfall against the great Batroc!

Damn. You're right...hey wait-a-minute! Deadpool wasn't trained in hand-to-foot combat either! Get outta here you scam!

@patrat18 said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: It is part of his belt.

You'll have to specify with the OP. I know it's in the belt but I doubt the OP will allow Batman to call in the Batmobile.

#30 Posted by patrat18 (9761 posts) - - Show Bio
#31 Posted by dondave (37394 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08 said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@god_spawn said:

But Cornell thinks Logan can get slipped up against Batroc the Leaper, and with no HF is susceptible to nerve strikes, something Batman is quite proficient at.

Wait..WHAT? Cornell thinks Wolverine would lose to Batroc? Even in pure hand-to-hand combat I seriously doubt that. Deadpool practically one-shotted him in issue 13.

Cornell's Wolverine is borderline garbage. It's become gratuitously emotional to force drama of Logan becoming mortal, and just been Wolverine getting beat up a lot.

So it's Dead but with Wolverine?

Yep

#32 Edited by Wolverine08 (42201 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

@wolverine08: Still canon get over it it's a great book.

It's canon, but goes against Wolverine's extensive history as a great fighter. That's just bad writing. Not so great.

#33 Posted by God_Spawn (37880 posts) - - Show Bio

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: What Deadpool did was a low showing for Batroc. It was funny, but a low showing. Batroc has generally always been able to give Steve and Bucky a decent fight, but should more often than not lose to both. He's goofy and a good fighter, but he's not on their level which is why I had problems with Wolverine getting hit for 4 pages straight.

Wolverine won but because he got one hit on Batroc. His excuse was Wolverine has lost some skill despite the last two years Logan has actually had some of his better and more consistent skill feats.

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#34 Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20239 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@wolverine08 said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@god_spawn said:

But Cornell thinks Logan can get slipped up against Batroc the Leaper, and with no HF is susceptible to nerve strikes, something Batman is quite proficient at.

Wait..WHAT? Cornell thinks Wolverine would lose to Batroc? Even in pure hand-to-hand combat I seriously doubt that. Deadpool practically one-shotted him in issue 13.

Cornell's Wolverine is borderline garbage. It's become gratuitously emotional to force drama of Logan becoming mortal, and just been Wolverine getting beat up a lot.

So it's Dead but with Wolverine?

Yep

Sounds lame.

#35 Posted by jashro44 (21645 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: H2h wise, team 1 should be more skilled, but current Wolverine has apparently forgotten some of his skill despite in the last year or two he killed Daken and was at the very least on par with Captain America, going so far as saying I thought Logan looked to be the better of the two. But Cornell thinks Logan can get slipped up against Batroc the Leaper, and with no HF is susceptible to nerve strikes, something Batman is quite proficient at. But given how Logan is mentally right now, this sudden revelation by Cornell that almost gets rid of the last few years of Logan's skill feats (IE the aforementioned ones, beating Iron Fist in h2h, and humiliating Sabretooth multiple times yada yada yada), and his lack of healing factor is putting Wolverine down a few notches and Batman shouldn't have a ridiculous amount of problems with him. Nightwing isn't so bad he can't hang with Wade, but Deadpool is statistically superior. Tbh, I see Wolverine as the current weak link and thus Team 2 can very well get the majority, but it depends whether Bruce will beat Logan sooner than Wade beats Grayson.

Round 2: Ignoring the Cornell nonsense and putting Logan at his approximate levels, team 1 slaughters team 2. Logan is on par with Bruce in skill, can soak most of what he dishes, and Deadpool's arsenal, skill, and physical stats would be too much for Grayson to handle long. You can switch the roles too. Wolverine would stomp him while Wade can hang with Bats for awhile. Wolverine could actually solo round 2 by himself. Nightwing is a road bump at best, and Bruce shouldn't hang with Wolverine long either.

This.

#36 Posted by Wolverine08 (42201 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh jeez, I hate that Batroc fight.

#37 Posted by patrat18 (9761 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20239 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: What Deadpool did was a low showing for Batroc. It was funny, but a low showing. Batroc has generally always been able to give Steve and Bucky a decent fight, but should more often than not lose to both. He's goofy and a good fighter, but he's not on their level which is why I had problems with Wolverine getting hit for 4 pages straight.

Wolverine won but because he got one hit on Batroc. His excuse was Wolverine has lost some skill despite the last two years Logan has actually had some of his better and more consistent skill feats.

Ah. So it's kind of in the middle? Wolverine has somehow lost his skill, which is WIS. I did know that Batroc was on par with Captain America since he has fought him before and held his own. He's very flamboyant and goofy though. Kind of like Deadpool but not as accomplished. I think it was because Batroc was too goofy and tried to do a very dramatic entrance and didn't see Wade because of the smoke and got one-shotted.

#39 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20239 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: There is a car in the picture and it's from call of duty it's a fully functional car.

Dude just go ask the OP. I really don't know if Bruce is going to be allowed to use that.

#40 Posted by God_Spawn (37880 posts) - - Show Bio

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: Yeah, Cornell has not done justice on Logan. I've said it before that their has to be a huge payoff at the end of this arc of his. If Logan isn't pulling off a Manifest Destiny/ training with Silver Samurai deal where he gets refresher course, I'm gonna be extremely pissed off because most people and a lot of writers just treat Wolverine with the "ragh" *slash* BS to show off his healing factor. The last few years have had some of Logan's best showings in awhile and I don't want to see that entirely erased for absolutely no reason. Remender gave us some good feats for Logan despite not knowing some things of the character and being open about limiting Wolverine's healing factor. Ed Brubaker let Logan fight on par and pull one of the sickest moves on Cap by dodging a shield blow, slashing Cap's straps to disarm him, slash his stomach, and kick him against the wall all in one move. One move by Brubaker; the guy who has been the leading authority on Cap for YEARS. Even Bendis knows how good Logan can be when he let him beat Fist, and Bendis was writing some of Iron Fist's best feats in recent years.

I don't think he got confused in the smoke, he knew exactly where he was going. But that's another argument for a different day.

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#41 Edited by jashro44 (21645 posts) - - Show Bio

I am predicting sabretooth is going to humiliate wolverine in there next fight and then wolverine is going to do some training (maybe go to a former master, or someone else in the marvel universe like elektra or something), and then get even with sabretooth.

#42 Posted by homicidalmaniac (7598 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18: The magnet gear could count as Incap,but I am not allowing Incaps in Round 2.

#43 Posted by patrat18 (9761 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: You have to understand what the writer is trying to say. Wolverine can fall from 100 feet in the air land on solid rocks and survive, now when he gets punched the pain dosen't go away automatically. He will loose his confidence hence the defeats, it's damn good story telling if you ask me.

#44 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20239 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: Yeah, Cornell has not done justice on Logan. I've said it before that their has to be a huge payoff at the end of this arc of his. If Logan isn't pulling off a Manifest Destiny/ training with Silver Samurai deal where he gets refresher course, I'm gonna be extremely pissed off because most people and a lot of writers just treat Wolverine with the "ragh" *slash* BS to show off his healing factor. The last few years have had some of Logan's best showings in awhile and I don't want to see that entirely erased for absolutely no reason. Remender gave us some good feats for Logan despite not knowing some things of the character and being open about limiting Wolverine's healing factor. Ed Brubaker let Logan fight on par and pull one of the sickest moves on Cap by dodging a shield blow, slashing Cap's straps to disarm him, slash his stomach, and kick him against the wall all in one move. One move by Brubaker; the guy who has been the leading authority on Cap for YEARS. Even Bendis knows how good Logan can be when he let him beat Fist, and Bendis was writing some of Iron Fist's best feats in recent years.

I don't think he got confused in the smoke, he knew exactly where he was going. But that's another argument for a different day.

I agree. It's amazing how a single writer can change so much, including the influence on a character previous writers have done. That Captain America feat sounds extremely impressive. Do you have scans?

#45 Posted by God_Spawn (37880 posts) - - Show Bio
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#46 Edited by RisingBean (3974 posts) - - Show Bio

I am not qualified to answer Rd 1 as all I have seen is a few scans of Cornell's Wolverine. I'll defer to Godspawn's opinion as I know he is a knowledgeable source and a consistent debater.

Rd 2 I would edge toward the Marvel guys. Wolverine should be able to drop either guy in a single hit and Deadpool has shown himself to be pretty badass as well. I won't dismiss Batman but short of pulling out the sci fi closet, I don't see his standard equipment being able to really put down the Marvel duo. Even magnets are a bust when Logan cuts whatever he is attached to apart and then gets back in the game.

#47 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20239 posts) - - Show Bio
#48 Posted by God_Spawn (37880 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

I am predicting sabretooth is going to humiliate wolverine in there next fight and then wolverine is going to do some training (maybe go to a former master, or someone else in the marvel universe like elektra or something), and then get even with sabretooth.

You mean exactly what happened in Wolverine First Class 9 when Sabes kidnaps Kitty and Wolverine loses badly, so he goes and trains with Shang Chi to only come back and kick the crap out of Victor? Just about 5 years ago? Seems original :P.

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#49 Edited by Wolverine08 (42201 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

I am predicting sabretooth is going to humiliate wolverine in there next fight and then wolverine is going to do some training (maybe go to a former master, or someone else in the marvel universe like elektra or something), and then get even with sabretooth.

This probably will happen.