Wizard's 4-way Team Battle: HP vs Merlin vs JCA vs LOTR

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#1  Edited By Arcus1

Team Harry Potter:

Dumbledore
Dumbledore
Voldemort
Voldemort

Team Merlin:

Morgana
Morgana
Merlin
Merlin

Team Jackie Chan Adventures:

Uncle
Uncle
Daolon Wong
Daolon Wong

Team Lord of the Rings

Gandalf
Gandalf
Sauroman
Sauroman

Who will win this 4-way team battle for magical supremacy?

Movie versions for HP and LOTR

All teams have perfect teamwork. I day of prep and access to all materials or ingredients. All teams have basic knowledge

No talismans, Felix Felices, dark chi warriors, or horcruxes

Morals off

Fight takes place in the Colosseum, victory by KO, incapacitation, or death

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Holy crap.... I might pick team LOTR

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I only know about Team Harry Potter and LotR.... And I can't even decide who will win between those two :/

Good battle.

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I only know about Team Harry Potter and LotR.... And I can't even decide who will win between those two :/

Good battle.

Jackie Chan Adventures fight scenes are hard to come by on YouTube, especially for Uncle and Daolon Wong, if I find anything for them I can post it. Here's some stuff for Merlin and Morgana

This woman in the first video is not Morgana

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The old guy in this video is Merlin, he used an aging spell for disguise sometimes. He is also known as Emrys

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I don't know two of the characters so I can't comment

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I don't know two of the characters so I can't comment

2 characters or 2 teams?

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@arcus: two characters, I'm not extremely familiar with Merlin however I did watch some of the episodes. I'm not at all familiar with Jackie Chan Adventures though.

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@cregan_stark: Ok, I'll keep looking for some videos of Uncle and Daolon Wong

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#11  Edited By Penderor

Well I would have voted for HP or LotR (HP is probably stronger). But with this OP when you missed one thing... MERLIN STOMPS. I am not familiar with JC Adventures. but it wont change my opinion.

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@penderor: You don't think anyone stands a chance against Merlin? Why?

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LotR is out immediately. The wizards in that series were weak in their mortal forms (I've read the Silmarillion, and I know what they are, but in their mortal forms they are really not that powerful).

Merlin has a lot of raw power and reality warping, but I don't know if they are really very good fighters per say. I seem to remember a lot of Merlin battles ending in a single hit after someone just over-powers the other.

Don't remember much about Jackie Chan Adventures, but if memory serves, the magic in that show was more utilitarian, with the kung fu guys being the warriors (I could be TOTALLY wrong on this, it has been a LOOOOOONG time since I've seen the show).

If this were book forms, I might have said team Merlin, but with the movies? Team Harry Potter has to take it. Dumbledore and Voldemort were both shown to be beasts. I'm pretty sure that either one of them could solo everyone else here.

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@theirishdoctor:

JCA magic was utilitarian sometimes, but Daolon Wong had a lot of combat feats, as did Uncle when he was fighting him. They had your usual energy blasts and stuff, Daolon Wong showed some powers like summoning monsters, force fields, teleportation, environment manipulation, I'll try to find some videos or post more specific feats later

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#15  Edited By Penderor

@arcus: Maybe because of this? Not to mention the fact he can make alive any statue, picture of animals. He also posses magic without items like staff, while staff empowers his abilities.

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#17  Edited By Penderor

@arcus: Well, Merlin still can create an minions for his fight. His only weakness is Morgana.

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@penderor: How is he going to create minions? And has he ever done that before for a fight? And would these minions pose a threat to the other wizards?

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@arcus: He is able to bring statues, pictures and things like that into life. He did in the first season. So if he has preparations in Camelot (Medieval city with a lot of gargoyles), then he can create a mini army from it. He also has good area damage and is quite fast in casting.

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Merlin

LOTR

HP

Jackie chan

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I'm not overly familiar with Merlin but know a fair amount about the others. I cant see anyone best Dumbledore and Voldemort seeing as they're both insanely powerful and possibly have the elder wand? Can anyone really stand up to the killing curse? LOTR is simply outclassed here, although Gandalf is definitely the strongest melee threat here...not that that's useful. Saruman could possibly use his speechcraft to control some of the others?

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@nerdchore: is that in order of who wins, first to last? @penderor: I guess that would count as resources, but Dumbledore could animate the statues at Hogwarts, and Daolon Wong can summon monsters too. What's his best AOE feat? I never saw all of the show, missed like the last season or so

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@gjones: lotr is not outclassed at all. Merlin is the most powerful here

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@nerdchore: Can you give me some feats for Merlin and Morgana seeing as i'm clearly a bit uninformed on the matter? With regard to Lotr, that they don't have the feats to suggest they can cast high level, high damage spells at the speed and power of some of the others? Not saying they'll go down easily, just that they will go down.

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@gjones: I posted a few videos earlier, I can try to post some more if I need to

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@arcus: Well, that lightning scene is actually only one, when he is killing an army. I believe that there is more of them, but since I was watching it exactly in the time when it was released, I dont remember it that corectly. He was mostly TK one to three persons. His good advantage is probably the fact, that his and Morgana TK cannot be blocked/countered since they never done it on show. Also, Merlin posses increased magic durability as he blocked that fire ball from Nimue. I will try to rewatch it.

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@penderor:

Yeah, that lightning bit is probably one of his best scenes

Just because Merlin wizards didn't have shields doesn't mean others' shields won't work

I posted that fight above

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@arcus: @arcus: I had watched them, I just didn't really see anything I would say puts him on Gandalf or Dumbledore's level, but without context this could simply be a budget issue? I was hoping that nerdchore might have something specific in mind as he thinks Merlin would win.

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@gjones: Fair enough. I think the show's budget did limit some things

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Arcus, I'l be commenting on this soon. Thanks for calling me out!

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@kingjohnrocks: Sure, no problem, thanks! Are you knowledgable on all the characters?

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Merlin and Morgana stomp

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@arcus: Merlin has magic that supersedes everything else here. His is borderline reality warping.

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@jacthripper: Is it really that powerful? What kind of borderline reality warping has he done that'll win this fight? I didn't see the last season so I might've missed something

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Is he allowed dragon summoning?

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@arcus: well i still think merlin and morgana win but not in a stomp anymore

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@arcus: well i still think merlin and morgana win but not in a stomp anymore

What do you think gives them the win?

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@arcus: ill try to post vids later but there magic is much higher than everyone elses

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#47  Edited By Arcus1

@arcus: ill try to post vids later but there magic is much higher than everyone elses

Any particular feats you're thinking, from what I remember it didn't seem that much higher than the others

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@arcus: it seems that way cause of low budget and merlin Constantly hiding himself. But his and morganas abilities are quite powerful in compared to what the others have or half to do to reach them

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@arcus: it seems that way cause of low budget and merlin Constantly hiding himself. But his and morganas abilities are quite powerful in compared to what the others have or half to do to reach them

Yeah, they were limited by plot and budget. What's his best feat, other than the lightning scene where he killed Morgana (since I've seen that, just wondering if there's something I don't remember/haven't seen)

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@arcus: ill tell yoy more when i get home. On my phone.