all out brawl, no prep time!
Nightwing. Taught by the best fighter in the DCU and he dosent need guns to get an advantage.
Teh_Exploder says:
"Nightwing. Taught by the best fighter in the DCU and he dosent need guns to get an advantage."
yeah but, WS can fight w/out weapons he was trained by Captain America/american gov't, sheild, and the russian gov't.
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Any other opinions, I don't know who would win?
Ultimate Chaos says:
"neither do i. i've never heard of these guys."
R u serious?
Buckshot says:
"Teh_Exploder says:"Nightwing. Taught by the best fighter in the DCU and he dosent need guns to get an advantage."Batman's not the best fighter in the DCU."
your right, what your opinion on this matchup
I don't think Winter Soldier has been portrayed as being as good a hand to hand fighter as Nightwing has (even though Nightwing's showings are up and down), so if it is pure hand to hand fight and Nightwing is at his best, then Nightwing would win. Other than that, it's hard to say. With all weapons and tactics involved, it could easily go to Winter Soldier.
Forever says:
"I don't think Winter Soldier has been portrayed as being as good a hand to hand fighter as Nightwing has (even though Nightwing's showings are up and down), so if it is pure hand to hand fight and Nightwing is at his best, then Nightwing would win. Other than that, it's hard to say. With all weapons and tactics involved, it could easily go to Winter Soldier."
all the weapons they normally have or have used in the comics, deffinately mucho tactics by both, just no prep time before the fight.
yeah I think his hand to hand skills would be better than most people think, esp. with his training from Cap
Sketchtor says:
"I pick nightwing. He's like batman junior. "
yes, but Winter Soldier is a slightly twisted Captain America Junior
Sketchtor says:
"Admittedly so, but i think batman could beat captain america."
Captain America would beat Batman. Winter soldier would win becaus ehe has so much more training in hand to hand combat an martial arts, an at least equal the fighting experience, although nightwing has been through crazier events.
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I think Bucky has some type of chance to win.Although he's not as smart or as agile as Nightwing..if he catched him off guard with the bionic arm...he's going to knock Nightwing out.I don't see it happening only because Nightwing seems to be alot quicker than Winter Soldier.I haven't really seen Bucky do much with his agilty either.I mean WS has alot of experience in combat but experience doesn't always mean win.I'm leaning more toward Nightwing..but i'm hoping someone else's response can help me make some type of case for Bucky.
Buckshot says:
"Teh_Exploder says:"Nightwing. Taught by the best fighter in the DCU and he dosent need guns to get an advantage."Batman's not the best fighter in the DCU."
FOOL! get outta here wit that crap!
Batmans the best there is best there was and the best there ever will be.
anyway I am gonna go with the New Capatin america the arm plus the shield is too much. I never like to vote against Nightwing but here I do
speedlgt says:
"Buckshot says:"Teh_Exploder says:"Nightwing. Taught by the best fighter in the DCU and he dosent need guns to get an advantage."Batman's not the best fighter in the DCU."FOOL! get outta here wit that crap!
Batmans the best there is best there was and the best there ever will be.
anyway I am gonna go with the New Capatin america the arm plus the shield is too much. I never like to vote against Nightwing but here I do"
-Batman isn't the best h2h fighter in the DCU.
-Bucky's arm would be a viscous blow to Nightwing..however,he has to hit Nightwing with it first.
-Bucky barely beat the Punisher and not only did the Punisher surrender he was holding back for the real Cap's sake.
speedlgt says:
"Batmans the best there is best there was and the best there ever will be."
yeah Batman is the best fighter in the DCU....
if you take Karate Kid, Sensei, Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, Bronze Tiger, Batgirl and Connor Hawke out of the equation....
there may be even more
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Nighthunter says:
"speedlgt says:"Batmans the best there is best there was and the best there ever will be."yeah Batman is the best fighter in the DCU.... if you take Karate Kid, Sensei, Lady Shiva, Richard Dragon, Bronze Tiger, Batgirl and Connor Hawke out of the equation.... there may be even more
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OK you make a fine point..but see heres the thing those characters SUCK!HA :D nah ok seriously though its pretty stupid for there to be better fighters in the dcu because really batman needs and should be the best in all his areas of skill because it makes his "super" heroness more real.
Just IMO.
speedlgt says:
"WOW so your saying nightwing wins...ok I still say winter is a bit better, and Bucky beat ironman. oh its True"
Iron Man just like the Punisher held back on Bucky for Cap's sake.Iron Man cold have killed him in 1 panel if he wanted.
This actually pretty easy for me to choose..for those of you who have read the latest of Winter Soldier,then they know he is agile enough to go up against Nightwing.
As someone mentioned already he was trained in combat by SHIELD,CAPT,and the RUSSIAN GOVT.Not to mention the weapon advantage,i say tactical wise they are even.
Winter Soildier has handled Black Widow(Current) and Wolverine as Bucky.
speedlgt says:
"I still say winter is a bit better, and Bucky beat ironman. oh its True"
Ironman would have needed just one shot to beat Bucky....
Akira Overdrive says:
"This actually pretty easy for me to choose..for those of you who have read the latest of Winter Soldier,then they know he is agile enough to go up against Nightwing. As someone mentioned already he was trained in combat by SHIELD,CAPT,and the RUSSIAN GOVT.Not to mention the weapon advantage,i say tactical wise they are even. Winter Soildier has handled Black Widow(Current) and Wolverine as Bucky."
i agree, winter soldier for the victory.
Nightwing. Dick is most likely a better fighter. I don't see Bucky getting a chance to tag him with that arm of his, and Dick has had years of experience dodging gun fire, nothing new. Nothing makes me think that Bucky takes him.
Emerald_General_Jai says:
"Nightwing. Dick is most likely a better fighter. I don't see Bucky getting a chance to tag him with that arm of his, and Dick has had years of experience dodging gun fire, nothing new. Nothing makes me think that Bucky takes him. "
Better Fighter...now that is the stupidest thing i have heard.
Common Sense wasnt in your arguement.
Akira Overdrive says:
"Emerald_General_Jai says:"Nightwing. Dick is most likely a better fighter. I don't see Bucky getting a chance to tag him with that arm of his, and Dick has had years of experience dodging gun fire, nothing new. Nothing makes me think that Bucky takes him. "Better Fighter...now that is the stupidest thing i have heard. Common Sense wasnt in your arguement."
An you're argument is??
I can see Grayson taking a few, but Bucky takes the majority!
i got to go with nightwing for one they never should have brought bucky back and he spent most of his life on ice whereas nightwing has been out there fighting crime and training with the batman pretty much his entire life...bucky's got a metal arm and a pistol? big deal! nightwing's got the entire batcave arsenal!
danhimself says:
"i got to go with nightwing for one they never should have brought bucky back and he spent most of his life on ice whereas nightwing has been out there fighting crime and training with the batman pretty much his entire life...bucky's got a metal arm and a pistol? big deal! nightwing's got the entire batcave arsenal!"
Actually, he hasn't spent most of his life on ice, he's spent it as the assasin known as the winter soldier killing people!
yeah and in between those missions they put him a cryogenic freeze
danhimself says:
"yeah and in between those missions they put him a cryogenic freeze"
and.....! The Russians basically used him when they needed him and stored him when they didn't! I'm sure they would have stopped using him or he would have been killed if he wasn't efficient or skilled enough in his field!
lordraiden says:
"danhimself says:"yeah and in between those missions they put him a cryogenic freeze"and.....! The Russians basically used him when they needed him and stored him when they didn't! I'm sure they would have stopped using him or he would have been killed if he wasn't efficient or skilled enough in his field!"
i'm not saying he isn't skilled just not as skilled as nightwing....nightwing's been out there nonstop since he was a kid, whereas bucky would go out kill somebody then comeback and take a couple year nap
Preacher says:
"Buckys was raised in the army, has years of experience of real war, and a cybernetic arm. Nightwings a circus freak. Winter Soldier gets my vote."
Yea that is true but everyone is saying that.Experience doesn't always win.Wolverine has more experience then alot of people in Marvel..it' doesn't mean he can beat all of them.
Lord Doom says:
"Preacher says:"Buckys was raised in the army, has years of experience of real war, and a cybernetic arm. Nightwings a circus freak. Winter Soldier gets my vote."Yea that is true but everyone is saying that.Experience doesn't always win.Wolverine has more experience then alot of people in Marvel..it' doesn't mean he can beat all of them."
he can beat a lot of them though. (true,not just going on experience, but still...)












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