Why Goku v.s. Superman is the worst Battle

After wading through half a dozen Battles between Goku and Superman, I've decided to write this as a way of convincing other forum members to stop using this scenario. We all know why people want to ask this fight: They are icons of their writing format ( anime and comics respectively) and both have very similar ideals and some personality traits. But that is where the line is drawn, and I'm tired of people arguing back and forth without know all the facts. Let me remind you all that I love both characters, but they are too different for this to be considered anything but a mismatch.

• First item on the list: Goku is only equal to Superman in his BASE form- I know some people will disagree but in his base form, Goku has feats that make him equal to Superman (In pure raw power, fighting skill and abilities is debatable) . However...

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• Any Super Saiyan Goku is stronger than Superman- People constantly put down "SSJ 1 Goku vs Superman", or even "SSJ3 Goku vs Superman". Guys, stop. The Super Sayain form is not just appearance change but Multiplication in all forms of power, giving Goku the advantage in ALL areas.

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• Goku can fight in (possible) FTL speed, Superman can NOT. - This is a common misconception for Superman because while he CAN fly in FTL speed, he does not have FTL COMBAT speed.
• Goku is a (Debatable) galaxy buster - Now this one may be a stretch, but while it's never shown him destroying Galaxies, it's been stated by many characters that he and his (later) enemies could destroy whole Galaxies. What we do know for a fact however, is that Goku could destroy planets easily in ANY form

Well this is the end of my post, feel free to debate or add more stuff to this if you'd like. Once again I love both characters, but this is such a bad mismatch.

@tshock: wow that dbz fan boy rant was just so wrong and goku is not a icon what so ever way to be a fan boy to take all the fun away <_<

One thing I've always wondered, what exactly IS fighting at the speed of light? What has to be moving at those speeds? I don't understand it. Is it how fast one's fists move? Maybe someone can explain or even better, post some scans of someone actually doing it.

I agree with everything.

goku's punches would feel like air to superman.

@SMXLR8 said:

@tshock: wow that dbz fan boy rant was just so wrong and goku is not a icon what so ever way to be a fan boy to take all the fun away <_<

Not a fanboy rant. This is generally accepted as true to anyone who's seen the best feats for both characters.

@Pokeysteve said:

One thing I've always wondered, what exactly IS fighting at the speed of light? What has to be moving at those speeds? I don't understand it. Is it how fast one's fists move? Maybe someone can explain or even better, post some scans of someone actually doing it.

If someone throws a punch at you going lightspeed, and you can react and counter it going lightspeed yourself, that's fighting at lightspeed.

Superman does not have light speed reaction time, and as such can not fight at light speed as some people say he can.

@nickzambuto: yep fan boy rant is just wrong

@jobbernos said:

goku's punche's would feel like air to superman.

Yea even though Frieza was completely demolished by Early SSj Goku punches them and Frieza has shown greater durability then Superman ever could.

And ....

@SMXLR8 said:

@nickzambuto: yep fan boy rant is just wrong

Ya know, now that you put it that way and explained it so properly, I really must apologize and admit you're right.

OP, you should feel ashamed. Sooperdooperman is awesomeness and would stopm the Goku.

@SMXLR8 said:

@tshock: wow that dbz fan boy rant was just so wrong and goku is not a icon what so ever way to be a fan boy to take all the fun away <_<

Goku has been a posterboy for Manga/Anime since the 90's what are you talking about? and this is not a Fanboy rant anyone with even basic knowledge of both characters would agree Goku in Base form would be a good fight for Supes, everything after that is a mismatch and should be treated as such.

The only way Superman has a chance in beating Goku is if it is his silver age incarnation. And that is more than debatable. The main reason Goku vs Superman threads are awful are the Fanboys on both sides who refuse to use the greatest tools they have, reason and common sense.

@solesamurai: come on this person is a dbz fan boy since every thing he said is debatable and maybe your right but he is not a that big since most people want to superman not goku and goku is not that famous like supes a real icon people look up too and such but hey you might have something

@*Void*: Silver Age Superman vs Goku is debatable? Really?

That's a poor analysis. Superman > Goku.

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Furthermore, Supers has greater strength, durability, endurance, can use nerve strikes, has heat vision (Goku can be burned like any other person), can breath in space, he heals faster, is smarter ect, ect.

You have it the wrong way around, in all honesty, Superman is too much for Goku to handle, regardless of his Super Sayain form.

@SHARKBEARAGATOR: How do you think it would go?

@*Void*: Silver Age Superman stomps he was broken beyond belief.

@ComicStooge said:

Ahem.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/death-battle-superman-vs-goku-analysis

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Response to "Debunking Goku's feats and misconceptions" | ScrewAttack.com

Screwattack had multiple threads on Goku vs Superman.

The one where it was supporting Goku got front page and got featured.

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I think Superman could possibly take Goku's SS1 form. But, anything beyond that and Supes gets beaten

@SHARKBEARAGATOR: O.K just asking. Broken is an understatement, he sneezed away a Galaxy.

Goku's probably more skilled at h2h...SS Goku would decimate a base Superman...

...however, a sundipped Superman? that'd be a good fight.

@*Void* said:

@SHARKBEARAGATOR: O.K just asking. Broken is an understatement, he sneezed away a Galaxy.

Solar System, still impressive though.

@XImpossibruX said:

@ComicStooge said:

Ahem.

http://www.screwattack.com/news/death-battle-superman-vs-goku-analysis

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Response to "Debunking Goku's feats and misconceptions" | ScrewAttack.com

Screwattack had multiple threads on Goku vs Superman.

The one where it was supporting Goku got front page and got featured.

Well, it isn't it up to the Death Battle show itself to end this argument?

@XImpossibruX: Thanks for the correction.

If the ban is implemented again because of people like you, I'll be pissed.

@XImpossibruX: Rofl, the amount of just out of context and lowball scans in that article is astounding.

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This thread, while not needed, about sums it up.

@SlimJ87D: I didn't mean to be troll bait, I just felt that way too many people were not using their full facts

@JediXMan: sorry just felt that they needed to stop the Goku vs Superman battles :(

@Vance Astro: Is that for me? :(

@Vance Astro said:

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Shouldn't this be locked Vance? There's another thread without the "troll bait" OP that was made just yesterday.