Who's the best at manipulateing?

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#1  Edited By recordkeeper

In DC & Marvel??? 
 
& what are the bestexampls of this is stories... 
 
Some of the best seen 
DC: Sinestro in SinestroWars, manipulateing Gaurdians w/fear to change the book of Oa... 
 
Marvel: Magus manipulateing just about EVERYONE even beings like (Galactus/Eternity/LT/Warlock even Thanos some along with all of earth heros) in InfinityWar   
Thanos from ThanosQuest on w/ALL 3 Infinity series 
 
Thanos 
Warlock 
Magus 
Lucifer 
Merlyn  
There are probable the Top 5 between both companies no? people forget about merlyn...
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#2  Edited By nefarious

Lucifer.

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@Fragneto said:
Actually Magus was being Manipulated by Dr. Doom.

No!
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#4  Edited By recordkeeper

Merlyn could hang with Lucifer here... 
 
 
& he's not way above someone like Thanos or Warlock/Magus either..
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#5  Edited By recordkeeper
@Fragneto said:
@recordkeeper said:
@Fragneto said:
Actually Magus was being Manipulated by Dr. Doom.
No!
Who used who to collect the infinity Gauntlet for who to take?

Doom did'nt "use" him, he more like stumbled upon him
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Merlyn is the one who has Top Manipulateing feat btw guys not lucifer I beleive... 
 
w/MJJ whole affair was all about him manipulateing all the events there & teaching/learninh/showing Roma how to be the new Omniversal Gaurdian at the same time with the Omniverse in dire peril, yet he considered it all a game & moved all the chess pieces perfectly like the pawns they where & havein evrything ending exactly like he planned...  
& has to manip at these levels almost daily it seems with his position..
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#7  Edited By TheCerealKillz

Lucifer...

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Magus

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Lucifer
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#10  Edited By Outside_85

Would venture Raven for manipulating the events that formed the New Teen Titans (not at the top, but still impressive).

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did'nt just recton inDC or something that AntiLifeEntity manipulateing Monitors/AlexanderLuthor ect ect. to recreate Multiverse w/the 52 Universes... 
That's a very good one there...
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#12  Edited By BuckshotWasHere  Moderator

Don't know about best, but my personal favorites are Tao, Loki, Black Panther, Daken and Doom

Edit: Forgot you wanted examples.

Tao: Wildcats Homecoming and Gang War, Point Blank, Sleeper, basically every appearance (not counting that BS Gen13 stuff)

Loki: The backstory was all throughout that latest volume of Thor, but I think the high point was issue 11 or 12, the one about him, also the new Journey into Mystery stuff is great.

Black Panther: Priest's BP

Daken: I think I liked it most when he was on Dark Avengers

Doom: no specific example

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#13  Edited By demifiend

L U C I F E R 

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#14  Edited By ssejllenrad

Gotta be Lucifer... No one else comes close.

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#15  Edited By difficlus

Tao is high up there. 

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#16  Edited By Dracade102

Lucifer, Loki & The Red Skull come to mind here...

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Lucifer Morningstar!

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#18  Edited By AtheneOwnsYou
@Dracade102 said:
Lucifer, Loki & The Red Skull come to mind here...
Um...why do you have Loki and the red skull even close to lucifer?  
 
Lucifer >>>>>>>>(add space of the omniverse)>>>(add space of marvel universe)>>>(add infinity +1) >>> Loki and red skull.
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#19  Edited By Dracade102
@AtheneOwnsYou said:
@Dracade102 said:
Lucifer, Loki & The Red Skull come to mind here...
Um...why do you have Loki and the red skull even close to lucifer?   Lucifer >>>>>>>>(add space of the omniverse)>>>(add space of marvel universe)>>>(add infinity +1) >>> Loki and red skull.
Didn't say they come close at all... I just said they're all good manipulators, even from a wide margin apart.
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The Loki

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#21  Edited By BarelyAverage

Does Batman with prep count?

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Rick Jones.

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#24  Edited By kheranlord12

When you say manipulating do you mean people or events
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#25  Edited By D3athstroke

Mister Popo

  

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#26  Edited By SteveRodgers

dc- Magog
marvel- Uatu, the watcher

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#27  Edited By karrob

Lucifer

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#28  Edited By TheMightyAvenger

Lucifer Mornigstar.

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#29  Edited By PowerHerc

Thanos is the ultimate manipulator.

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#30  Edited By Deadcool

Loki... 

Loki
Loki
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#31  Edited By _Zombie_

Can't think of the best, persay, but Loki is the main reason the Avengers exist.  His manipulations caused their formation.  Then there's Lucifer(no s**t choice).  Krona is a big one as well.  Sinestro is good in his own right.  Red Skull would be a much better manipulator if he could HOLD ON to the Cosmic Cube long enough. 
 
Edit: Forgot Mephisto(not a HUGE one, but still a pretty good manipulator).  Also Uatu in his own right, and Thanos.

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