Who would win with Jean using the phoenix form in her white crown form against apocalypse? This has always made me wonder since Jean exists outside of time or space really. And she resurrect herself whenever need be. But Apocalypse has always been shown as to be the Ultimate being - from what i read.
Whats your opinion and why?
Who Would Win? Phoenix Force or Apocalypse?
" @AtPhantom: Apocalypse can't even defeat Magneto or Cable. "Are you sure of that, because last time I remember Cable couldn't hurt Apocalypse...not that Apocalypse can even beat the garbage force.
" @geraldthesloth: When has Cable lost to Apocalypse? Magneto defeated Apocalypse in AOA and in HOM. Not only that, but Apocalypse's armor is metallic and his body is ravaged by the techno-organic virus, making Apocalypse a puppet for Magneto. This is how Magneto defeated Cable by the way because of his techno-organic virus. Magneto can also easily manipulate technology and Apocalypse has that. What is the garbage force? %Pr "Check the Twelve..Magneto defeated Apocalypse in AOA..a non cannon story. HOM lost to Black Bolt if I remember correctly..how would he hurt someone who can telekentically rip Magneto apart. Garbage Force=Phoenix force..a concept I dont care about.
Enlighten me. Is there anyone who could be the Phoenix Force? And during this Phoenix Force, is Jean Grey or the Phoenix in control? So could the PF go to another character and just leave Jean Grey or does it need to be with someone telekensis-based?
i hate that people underate apocalypse, the dude is devestating for sure... I bet if PF had metal theyd be like oh pf sucks cuz magneto can beat her... well shit he rules magnatism what do you expect... apocalypse is a beast dude...
" Enlighten me. Is there anyone who could be the Phoenix Force? And during this Phoenix Force, is Jean Grey or the Phoenix in control? So could the PF go to another character and just leave Jean Grey or does it need to be with someone telekensis-based? "Jean is the Phoenix and the Phoenix is Jean. Anyone can be in possession of the Phoenix Force, specifically if their abilities are psi-based.
Anyway, Jean stomps.
" Enlighten me. Is there anyone who could be the Phoenix Force? And during this Phoenix Force, is Jean Grey or the Phoenix in control? So could the PF go to another character and just leave Jean Grey or does it need to be with someone telekensis-based? "Jean is the Phoenix and the Phoenix is Jean. Anyone can be in possession of the Phoenix Force, specifically if their abilities are psi-based.
Anyway, Jean stomps.
" @thedeman87 said:But Jean wasn't born with the PF was she? It came to her later right?" Enlighten me. Is there anyone who could be the Phoenix Force? And during this Phoenix Force, is Jean Grey or the Phoenix in control? So could the PF go to another character and just leave Jean Grey or does it need to be with someone telekensis-based? "Jean is the Phoenix and the Phoenix is Jean. Anyone can be in possession of the Phoenix Force, specifically if their abilities are psi-based. Anyway, Jean stomps. "
@GreenLanternFan said:
" i hate that people underate apocalypse, the dude is devestating for sure... I bet if PF had metal theyd be like oh pf sucks cuz magneto can beat her... well shit he rules magnatism what do you expect... apocalypse is a beast dude... "
Cyclops defeated Apocalypse and so has Cable. Apocalypse is not in the ten most powerful mutants in X-Men.
@geraldthesloth said:
" @cracks said:
" @geraldthesloth: When has Cable lost to Apocalypse? Magneto defeated Apocalypse in AOA and in HOM. Not only that, but Apocalypse's armor is metallic and his body is ravaged by the techno-organic virus, making Apocalypse a puppet for Magneto. This is how Magneto defeated Cable by the way because of his techno-organic virus. Magneto can also easily manipulate technology and Apocalypse has that. What is the garbage force? %Pr %2Proxy-Connection: keep-alive Cache-Control: max-age=0 20 "Check the Twelve..Magneto defeated Apocalypse in AOA..a non cannon story. HOM lost to Black Bolt if I remember correctly..how would he hurt someone who can telekentically rip Magneto apart. Garbage Force=Phoenix force..a concept I dont care about. "
Magneto was depowered in "The Twelve" storyline. He was relying on Cortez for energy boosts and his lack of power is what made Apocalypse's machine fail. When he finally tapped into Polaris abilities, he kicked butt.
Magneto has much stronger molecular control of Apocalypse then Apocalypse does. Apocalypse is not a powerful enough telekinetic to hurt Magneto in any way. Blackbolt is pretty powerful so, yeah. Magneto can draw his power from the magnetic fields and that vastly surpasses Apocalypse's complete control of his own body on the cellular and molecular level.
" @NeoAndroid: They're both powerful, but Apocalypse might have the edge because he's been around for so long and has so much experience... hmm, tough call... "And you bumped this why?
@kingant27 said:
Phoenix stomps.
I'm responding to a old thread but I just want to say... Apocs wins! Just kidding Phoenix Force mindstomps
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