Who would defeat Legato Bluesummers?

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Legato Bluesummers

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  • Must be city level or below(use Spiderman as a measuring stick)
  • No time/reality/matter manipulation
  • No intangibility
  • battle take place in New York
  • Start 20 feet from each other
  • Combatants have morals on
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uh, bump

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#3  Edited By Cjdavis103

@cor_tsar:

The doctor godstomps

maybe a pre bubble fruit arc Toriko ( he would be pushing the limit )

Luffy

samurai jack ( slight majority )

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i would imagine someone like spiderman could do it. his spider sense would allow him to avoid the wires.

i could also see someone like gon or kurapika doing it. they can use nen to shield their body from the wires

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@knightofzero:In manga he's pure telekintetic/telepath, he stated he could could essentially kill a towns worth of people in seconds. And where knives was about to be absorbed by Vash, Legato can easily manipulate his unique physiology.

@cor_tsar:

The doctor godstomps

maybe a pre bubble fruit arc Toriko ( he would be pushing the limit )

Luffy

samurai jack ( slight majority )

1. In a random encounter? Isn't he still human, can't he just break him?

2. I don't know.

3.Lol, this would be a funny battle, as far as i know Luffy never resisted pure telekinesis. Lagato would have fun twisting Luffies body beyond what Luffy had previously thought possible.

4. Lagato should be able to break him.

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1. in universe jobing filed probability manipulation and an intellect that can do anything he can manage it

2. if he is allowed he stomps

3.Haki says he can and he has the speed to speed blitz

4, meh

new charicters

SS ichigo

Sage mode Naruto

Jackie Chan ( jackie Chan adventures) all talismans

Omni ( golden tiger claw orb of tsunami serpent tail, shoad of shadows ,More if needed)

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#7  Edited By Cor_Tsar

@cjdavis103:

1.Alright yeah, but he's kinda outside city level, for sure.

2. alright

3. Legato reaction speed roughly equal to manga Vash and Wolfwood, once you're in his area you're his to play with. No one has pure tk/tp combo, let's see haki protect against that. Knives was casual city buster and he had two plants within him, yet Vash's 'flow' was still stronger, and Lagato was able to hold him down for several months before becoming exhausted, and even then he still had enough power to still slightly over power Wolfwood. I know Luffy's will is strong, but Legato has control over his 'flow' and while Luffy can knockout a ton of warriors, Lagato can literally force an entire city to die, pre power boost.

SS Ichigo has a chance, i guess, don't read much bleach. Tk/Tp seems like it should be common place though.

Naruto's already proven susceptible to tk when Pein used Push/pull ninjutsu's on them, and that's nowhere near the control legato has, Naruto should be able to be broken

Jackie's a possibility, been a while since i watched the show though.

I believe that there's a an artifact(what's the exact name again?) that simulates tk and tp, added versatility constitues win.

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#10  Edited By Cjdavis103

@cor_tsar:

1. that's the thing though by stats he is not even stet level the only reason he is so powerful is because he is so intelligent it is like Batman with prep fighting above his weight class or midnighters powerset

In bleach it is not commen place but they do tend to break esoteric technigecs ( Ichigo is particularly found of it)

Naruto has also tanked worst than Lagato can put out and he has clone jutsus to use as well and various outher Haxs

well considering he is ( with the talisman) immortal can heal from wounds instantly be invisible, shoot lazer beams breath fire animate objects move/fly at mach 2( if not higher) and split himself in 2 and more he should take this ( he is also immune to TP)

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@cjdavis103:

1. Well in a random encounter just about every human would be killed by Legato, The Doctor would have to react before Legato instantaneous has a hold of his body and mind, then he gets broken.

2. Too bad tk isn't always about being big and flashy like Naruto's energy attacks. Legato's is precise and swift killing, even if Naruto makes 100s of clones, Legato can gain control over all of them, especially weaker ones. Then Naruto's multiple clones thrash in pain as their limbs are twisted and broken. Naruto could win in some scenario's though, just not this one since Legato would have Naruto in his sights and range at the beginning of the battle

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#12  Edited By Cor_Tsar

@nuffs: Nice choice.

Martian Manhunter

he breaks two of the rules, but yes he would win.

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@cor_tsar:

1. yeah TP is a bad idea against the doctor once you are in his head you are not getting out and his In universe jobing filde stops speed blitzing it gets you to talk to him and give him time to mess with you the only restaince to it is being aware of it before hand

2. you are seriously underestimating his strength here which is easily class 100 , and he has a regen facto that can tank enourmus amonts of damage and more importly the clones that you grabed? they are only 1/10 of the clones he created the outher are already underground and burrowing undernight you for the surprise blitz

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#14  Edited By Cor_Tsar

1. yeah TP is a bad idea against the doctor once you are in his head you are not getting out and his In universe jobing filde stops speed blitzing it gets you to talk to him and give him time to mess with you the only restaince to it is being aware of it before hand

I think if Legato can deal with both Vash and Knives mind, he can handle the Doctors. Plus Legato doesn't care if the Doctor is the pope, he's killing him, he hates humans to the utmost extent, even though he himself is one. Plus Legato's ability to mess with flow of fate(Something like that) should be enough to resist Jobing filde, at least that and his utter contempt of humans should. though this one i may be wrong about.


2. you are seriously underestimating his strength here which is easily class 100 , and he has a regen facto that can tank enourmus amonts of damage and more importly the clones that you grabed? they are only 1/10 of the clones he created the outher are already underground and burrowing undernight you for the surprise blitz

No it's not, show me proof of that. He has powerful energy attacks, but so does Knives and Vash, and Legato has no problem handling Vash. Only reason he didn't doesn't handle Knives is because he worships the guy, but even controlling the threads of fate as a younging(or once again, something like that) allowed him to survive an encounter with the monster. Also Legato has enhanced senses, clones burying under ground aren't gonna surprise him he's gonna realize it right away and break them as well. Legato had no problem handling the other super humans that were part of the gung ho guns when it was necessary. The only time someone without tk counter abilities beat Legato was when he was exhausted and had been holding down a city buster for multiple months, even then it required team work to sneak him. Regen factor aint helping with his bones and muscle ripping in directions they aren't meant to rip.

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1. iff he hates humans that's the doctors in point if he can TP he can tell the second he touches the doctors mind that he is not human that one realization will throw him off his game and his flow from there the Doctor talks and then it is game over the doctor +talking= win

2.he tossed a massive rhino ( easily 70-80 tons) over the horizon with no effort ,it worked on Pain who just as a ninja has enhanced senses, and he is distracted by Narutos Talk no jutsu and rasenga shirkens ( he can also transfourm a clone into that attack for a surprise attack from much closer, and yes it will if he has durability like Naruto that makes riping him a very difficult task

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@cor_tsar:

1. iff he hates humans that's the doctors in point if he can TP he can tell the second he touches the doctors mind that he is not human that one realization will throw him off his game and his flow from there the Doctor talks and then it is game over the doctor +talking= win

That's very plausible... i guess, heard Doctor is PIS incarnate, that's some deep PIS right there.


2.he tossed a massive rhino ( easily 70-80 tons) over the horizon with no effort ,it worked on Pain who just as a ninja has enhanced senses, and he is distracted by Narutos Talk no jutsu and rasenga shirkens ( he can also transfourm a clone into that attack for a surprise attack from much closer, and yes it will if he has durability like Naruto that makes riping him a very difficult task

Legato sense's can scan over entire cities and castles, his perception is insane. He's gonna be able to feel the simple vibrations through the ground. Legato can still TP Naruto and numb his mind. And Legato can twist and bend Wolfwood, who's skin was made to be hard as steel, has increased muscle density, can survive an innumerable amount of bullets and just laugh it off, and he was able to do it while weakened. Legato works by working with the flow of the muscles while bending them unnaturally. Stating it's amazing what the human body can do with just a little push.

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@cor_tsar:

1. yeah even Haxs and power must bend knee to PIS that is the Doctor

2.TP might not work on Naruto who is one using a powerful spiritual technige ( one with nature) and he has the nine tails that shakes him out of TP/illusions, he might stop the clones, he might stop the burroing team and he can stop/diverte the energy attacks but why would he stop defled the attack that is going to be a near miss? unless eh can fiqure out that near miss is a clone hiting him point blank with a rasenga shirken he is going to get hit , and Naruto has his own TP like ability to sense force around him when in sage mode to in theory he could counder his TP with chakra allowing him freedom of movement

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#18  Edited By Cor_Tsar

@cjdavis103: Legato's TP is pretty powerful, he doesn't put people into illusions he makes them his mind wiped slaves. But it's not just TP, it's also TK, and Legato can use them perfectly insync. If TP doesn't work, TK that focus's on manipulating the muscles(and just in general the Anatomy) of the intended target is pretty hard to counter unless encountered before, and even if it's encountered before it's still nearly impossible to counter. He can attack with these two near instantly, by the time Naruto puts up his sign he would have already been under Legato's control. I just don't see how this doesn't end with Naruto either being ripped apart or cutting his own neck with a kunai. Or maybe impaling his eye with kunai, or many other disturbing ways, point is, once Naruto is under Legato;s control he;s gonna do what he wants with him, Naruto's never countered pure TK before, especially not of Legato's caliber.

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@cor_tsar: True I See your point okay then early War naruto ( no Biju bombs) that should be enough to counter his TP/TK and still stay under the city limit

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@cjdavis103: Alright smooth, KCN is pretty impressive and unpredictable in that form, alright he's smooth.