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#1 Edited by boschePG (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

Me and a coworker were debating a comic fight. Its for the fate of their own universe survival.

No speed blitz.

No battlefield removal

In character. 1 week prep

Superman, Batman, Black Adam, Hawkman, Dr Fate, Etrigan, Martian Manhunter

Vs

Silver Surfer, Sentry, Hulk, Ultron, Dr Strange, Ronan the Accuser, Apocalypse

Battle closes friday

any insight to why the side wins or how the battle might play out would help too

#2 Posted by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

DC

#3 Posted by Dark_Guyver (2315 posts) - - Show Bio

DC

#4 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5065 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel easily

#5 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

It comes down to prep.
Batman and Ultron would be in similar level of prep. The same can be said about Fate and Strange. 
Yet, Marvel has Apoc who has Celestial tech. 
 
And with War Hulk on team, no one from Marvel could be depowered. Black Adam could be. Superman will be. Teleapthy won't be usefull when prep is involved. 
And Marvel team has Surfer's matter manipulation and Cosmic Awareness, Ultron's technopaty and Ronan's matter manipulation.

#6 Posted by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL, rules got edited. I'm outta here.

#7 Posted by darkelf35 (518 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman with prep should solo

#8 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11660 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

It comes down to prep. Batman and Ultron would be in similar level of prep. The same can be said about Fate and Strange. Yet, Marvel has Apoc who has Celestial tech. And with War Hulk on team, no one from Marvel could be depowered. Black Adam could be. Superman will be. Teleapthy won't be usefull when prep is involved. And Marvel team has Surfer's matter manipulation and Cosmic Awareness, Ultron's technopaty and Ronan's matter manipulation.

Couldn't Banner be used for prep also?

#9 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@darkelf35 said:

Batman with prep should solo

Why?
#10 Posted by GhostRider2 (3308 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel stomps look who is in marvel team.Batman gets obliterated he can't deal with anyone.

#11 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5065 posts) - - Show Bio

Gtfo Batman isn't soloing anything.

#12 Posted by darkelf35 (518 posts) - - Show Bio

Prep is stupid.

reasons why either team can win are infinite.

Superman can sundip

superman could get sent back in time By dr fate 1000 years and sun dip for 1000 years.

superman could get sent back in time 10000000 years and sun sit for 100000000 years.

ect ect ect

#13 Posted by thanosii (1268 posts) - - Show Bio

well in that case surfer get the un from galactus and soloes the whole dcu.. I think its fair to keep prep reasonable

#14 Posted by boschePG (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

prep should be reasonable. and I think sending Superman back into time is considered a form of battlefield removal anyways, right?

#15 Posted by darkelf35 (518 posts) - - Show Bio

In that case is he allowed to sundip?

#16 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@GrandSymbiote94 said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

It comes down to prep. Batman and Ultron would be in similar level of prep. The same can be said about Fate and Strange. Yet, Marvel has Apoc who has Celestial tech. And with War Hulk on team, no one from Marvel could be depowered. Black Adam could be. Superman will be. Teleapthy won't be usefull when prep is involved. And Marvel team has Surfer's matter manipulation and Cosmic Awareness, Ultron's technopaty and Ronan's matter manipulation.

Couldn't Banner be used for prep also?

You're right.  I forgot about it.
@boschePG said:
prep should be reasonable. and I think sending Superman back into time is considered a form of battlefield removal anyways, right?

Agree. That is why - like in normal battles - we should use feats. 
What Batman actually can do? 
Ultron can made an army of robots boosted by Apoc's celestial tech. Strange and Fate are the only real magic users here, so they can deal with each other. Surfer in normal battle can one-shot Superman and prep means that telepathy is pretty useless (as Tony Stark and Magneto proved by their prep-feats).
#17 Posted by boschePG (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

its in character. Would Batman ask Superman to sundip to save his universe? yes. Would Superman do it even when he is saving everything in DCU? I dont know

#18 Posted by boschePG (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

more importantly, would Ultron and Apocalypse work together. Everything is in character

#19 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@boschePG said:
its in character. Would Batman ask Superman to sundip to save his universe? yes. Would Superman do it even when he is saving everything in DCU? I dont know
And it would give them nothing, since Surfer can drain all of his energy just like that. Not too mention that Surfer would boost himself too. And there is no reason to belive that Apoc and Ultron wouldn't work with each other if they are already in the same team.
#20 Posted by Juiceboks (9096 posts) - - Show Bio

Fate can take Stange and Ronan can probably handle MM. Batman and Hawkman are the two weakest links on the DC team in terms of who's gonna last the longest. Marvel has so many heavy hitters in comparison so I give it to them.

#21 Posted by logy5000 (5791 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably DC.

#22 Posted by marvellover1 (373 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel>>

#23 Posted by clemj (817 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman, Batman, Black Adam, Hawkman, Dr Fate, Etrigan, Martian Manhunter

Vs

Silver Surfer, Sentry, Hulk, Ultron, Dr Strange, Ronan the Accuser, Apocalypse

I can fairly tell that hawkman is a nonfactor

black adam beats the shit out of hulk

sentry burns martian manhaunter

dr fate fights on equal bases with dr strange

the surfer beats up superman

apocalypse gets destroyed by etrigan

remaining batman's plan which takes out strange, fate then bans sentry into another dimension

surfer gets wrecked and ultron arrives with a new plan which takes out fate and bats, but has to kneel to DC

DC wins

#24 Posted by ascenscion (102 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel. Batman and Hawkman are useless here and would get walked all over. Replace them with, say, Flash pre-52 and Deathstroke for prep, we get a way more even battle.

#25 Posted by War_Hulk_Kills_Sentry2 (559 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:

Marvel easily

I agree

#26 Posted by War_Hulk_Kills_Sentry2 (559 posts) - - Show Bio

@clemj said:

Superman, Batman, Black Adam, Hawkman, Dr Fate, Etrigan, Martian Manhunter

Vs

Silver Surfer, Sentry, Hulk, Ultron, Dr Strange, Ronan the Accuser, Apocalypse

I can fairly tell that hawkman is a nonfactor

black adam beats the shit out of hulk

sentry burns martian manhaunter

dr fate fights on equal bases with dr strange

the surfer beats up superman

apocalypse gets destroyed by etrigan

remaining batman's plan which takes out strange, fate then bans sentry into another dimension

surfer gets wrecked and ultron arrives with a new plan which takes out fate and bats, but has to kneel to DC

DC wins

@clemj Hulk destroys black adam DESTROYS

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#27 Posted by boschePG (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

7-5 Marvel so far

#28 Posted by War_Hulk_Kills_Sentry2 (559 posts) - - Show Bio

@logy5000: sure ur not jus saying that coz supes is on the dc team

#29 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (6186 posts) - - Show Bio

@boschePG: Can Batman have his insider suit ? DC wins either way.

#30 Posted by terry2012 (5223 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkelf35: This.

#31 Posted by tensor (4392 posts) - - Show Bio

Battle can go either way for me, but before i go on that i want to know which doctor strange are we using current or classic?

#32 Posted by age_of_ultron_Prime2000 (1217 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel wins and i think that in this battle Ultron is more dangerous than Batman with prep

#33 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5065 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman and Hawkman are non factors. Ultron with prep will have an army. SS can handle anyone else. Dr Strange an Fate cancel each other out.

#34 Edited by boschePG (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

8-7 Marvel...still awaiting tensor's decision. and to answer, its current Strange and yes Insider suit is allowed cuz its an owned device counted in prep

#35 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5065 posts) - - Show Bio

Strange is Scorceror Supreme again. The Insider suit is way overated an not going to help in this battle.

#36 Posted by mhooks23 (11 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel!!! Hulk and Ultron alone are a force in it's self. How many times has Ultron nearly defeated the Avengers alone. Now he has backup. Game over!!!!

#37 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel has this with the prep involved.

#38 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1578 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfer and Sentry in one team and some people keep saying DC wins. waaaw

Marvel team murderstomp

#39 Posted by boschePG (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

11-7 Marvel

#40 Posted by spiderpool94 (467 posts) - - Show Bio

Depending on the circumstances either way. Marvel 6/10; very slim.

#41 Posted by Clark_Rogers (14 posts) - - Show Bio

In Character would have Superman and Surfer trying to talk things out peacefully. Then likely figuring out that they were set up and this ending in a draw

#42 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@Clark_Rogers: In the Battles forum, we assume that any attempts to reason with each other have been exhausted, and both teams have now decided to fight each other.

I've often heard the argument that Surfer can drain Superman of solar energy, but has he ever done anything of that sort? I've seen him absorb energy attacks and the like, but is there any evidence to suggest he could actually leech it from Superman's cells? Just curious.

The week of prep makes things hard to call, but I see the Marvel team taking a majority. Silver Surfer is going to be extremely difficult for DC to counter, and Batman has very few prep feats that actually apply to this sort of a situation. Hawkman and Batman will be of very little use once the actual fight begins, Insider Suit or not. Ultron's adamantium body is ridiculously durable. Apocalypse, Ultron, and Surfer together should be able to counter Martian Manhunter's telepathy, especially with a week of prep. Team DC would fare better in a random encounter, but Surfer's matter manipulation is a trump card for Marvel.

#43 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@Esquire
He did it to Hulk. Hulk changed into Banner after that.
#44 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@Esquire: He did it to Hulk. Hulk changed into Banner after that.

Interesting. Thanks for the info!

#45 Posted by boschePG (2341 posts) - - Show Bio

13-7 Marvel. the separation begins

#46 Posted by logy5000 (5791 posts) - - Show Bio

@War_Hulk_Kills_Sentry2: I'm not a Superman fanboy.

And lets not judge by avatar 'cause you seem like a marvel fan to me.

#47 Posted by heroesgold (608 posts) - - Show Bio

@darkelf35 said:

Prep is stupid.

reasons why either team can win are infinite.

Superman can sundip

superman could get sent back in time By dr fate 1000 years and sun dip for 1000 years.

superman could get sent back in time 10000000 years and sun sit for 100000000 years.

ect ect ect

Sliver Surfer could destroy supes before he gets even 1 minute in the sun.

#48 Posted by heroesgold (608 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sure Marvel would win with Sentry and Sliver Surfer on the team and Apocalypse is a underrated Villain he's Class 100. He could take down most of the heroes in the Dc earth (not universe).

#49 Posted by Esquire (3833 posts) - - Show Bio

@heroesgold said:

Sliver Surfer could destroy supes before he gets even 1 minute in the sun.

He was saying that Superman would spend the week of prep in the sun.

#50 Posted by UltraSuperTrooper (676 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lone_Wolf_and_Cub said:

Gtfo Batman isn't soloing anything.

Yes thank you haha

Hawkman and batman really bring down the DC team in my opinion, they dont matchup at all with the marvel team. Gotta go with marvel