Who's the most powerful non cosmic being in DC and Marvel?

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#102  Edited By Fodder76

What about Amazo?

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#103  Edited By Fodder76

Nobody thinks Amazo could take this?

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#104  Edited By Vaeternus

Amazo is a good point, possibly Brainiac with prep is up there I think.

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@bflynn316 said:

Am I the only one tired of Flash now? I used to like the character but the fanboys are killing him for me. As for the winner maybe Classic Dr. Strange, Martian Manhunter, Full Power Sentry, Superboy Prime, Rune King Thor...if they are all at their most powerful it gets insane. Is Trion Juggernaut allowed or is he considered cosmic?

I'v never understood why people say this. I agree that Flash is pretty powerful (As he should be) when without PIS but fanboys come with each character, it can't be helped. I don't see why people should stop liking a character cause of what takes place on Comicvine considering he currently is vastly different in the comic. Don't let the actions of fanboys dictate your perception of a character.

Yeah I guess you're right, I'm just really frustrated at how he's portrayed on here. But I do still like the character, I just am tired of him being considered above powerful reality warpers on here.

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Franklin Richards without much of a problem.

Franklin Richards is on Celestial tier as a child, and Abstract Level as an adult. Totally considered a high end cosmic being.

The OP had allowed him. I even suggested the OP to take him out of this fight in the next post.

EDIT: adult Franklin Richards isn't abstract level. He is high tier Celestial level, like Arishem.

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@ghostravage said:

@alessandro_souzamarques said:

Franklin Richards without much of a problem.

Franklin Richards is on Celestial tier as a child, and Abstract Level as an adult. Totally considered a high end cosmic being.

The OP had allowed him. I even suggested the OP to take him out of this fight in the next post.

EDIT: adult Franklin Richards isn't abstract level. He is high tier Celestial level, like Arishem.

Galactus told him his real purpose is to become an abstract. He then becomes one after beating the celestials, Ben Grimm mentions this later.

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Amazo #1

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I'd give this to Superman (not one million) or Wally West. Or HP Doomsday. Darkseid's a pussy in comparason. And Thanos w/o Infinity Gauntlet (which is cosmic) ranks below normal Darkseid.