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#1 Edited by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

So this is a fight between all beings who are not Omnipotent have the power cosmic or other Instakill powers. I will allow high tiered reality warpers such as Franklin Richards but nothing above that level. So who comes out on top? Also this is everybody's most powerful incarnations that aren't cosmic entities ( I.E. GG Superman, Cosmic Armor Superman ) people like WBH also people like Thor have all powers that they've ever shown on panel. Although nobody is allowed to BFR. Also feats such as Superman sneezing a solar system will be disregarded. Also theories such as Warrior Madness Thor being 1,000 time more powerful will be disregarded. He MIGHT be 1,000 times stronger but not 1,000 times more powerful. Begin!

#2 Edited by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Goku wins personally. ;)

#3 Posted by SheenLantern (6201 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm pretty sure Goku isn't from Marvel or DC.

The answer, as always, is The Flash.

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#4 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope reasons. How could Flash take out every single Marvel and DC character who's not cosmic before they respond? This isn't a fight one by one it's a mass orgy of super powered beings fighting it to the death.

#5 Edited by SheenLantern (6201 posts) - - Show Bio

@beezlebub said:

This isn't a fight one by one it's a mass orgy of super powered beings fighting it to the death.

So it is a fight, then?

Flash is the most powerful, he has the most damage output coupled with one of the largest ranges of practical powers.

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#6 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

Dude I'm not saying Flash wouldn't win but can you explain why? There are a mass of telepaths and reality warpers on small scales here especially people with regenerative abilities. Who's to say a telepath doesn't get him from far away?

#7 Edited by RetconCrisis (3333 posts) - - Show Bio

@beezlebub said:

This isn't a fight one by one it's a mass orgy of super powered beings fighting it to the death.

So it is a fight, then?

Flash is the most powerful, he has the most damage output coupled with one of the largest ranges of practical powers.

Actually, I'm thinking it's Hunter Zolomon who would be the most danger non-cosmic.

EDIT: Nevermind, Zoom is cosmic because of the "Cosmic Treadmill," as time control is a cosmic ability.

#8 Edited by SheenLantern (6201 posts) - - Show Bio

@beezlebub: I'm not saying Flash would win either, there are plenty of people who can beat him. Like Zoom, but he doesn't have Flash's damage output or his powers like speed steal, speed force dump etc. So I wouldn't consider him more powerful.

And Flash can become immune to telepathy.

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#9 Posted by TifaLockhart (14012 posts) - - Show Bio

All out brawl? Too many variables.

#10 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh snap! Really? Cool. But what about mid tear reality warpers such as Franklin Richards? Granted no BFR but he should be able to come up with something.

#11 Posted by aquaman01 (1292 posts) - - Show Bio

I assume Darkseid or Thanos are called cosmic entities?

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#12 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't consider Darkseid one. Thanos probably shouldn't be allowed though.

#13 Posted by SheenLantern (6201 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't consider Darkseid one. Thanos probably shouldn't be allowed though.

That doesn't make sense, they're basically the same person.

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#14 Posted by TifaLockhart (14012 posts) - - Show Bio

Allowing Darkseid is a mistake if you think he's weak

#15 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm letting Darkseid and Thanos in on the conditions set above. No BFR or instakills.

#16 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyways nobodies given it to Hulk yet? XD

#17 Edited by SheenLantern (6201 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyways nobodies given it to Hulk yet? XD

Ahahahahah...

Ahahahahahhahahhahhaha....

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAA

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#18 Posted by alessandro_souzamarques (654 posts) - - Show Bio

Franklin Richards without much of a problem.

#19 Posted by TifaLockhart (14012 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd consider Franklin cosmic, personally.

#20 Edited by alessandro_souzamarques (654 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd consider Franklin cosmic, personally.

Yeah. He should be. Maybe it's better for the OP to take him out of this fight.

#21 Posted by aquaman01 (1292 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, unless it is kid Franklin considering he doesn't have full access to his full power.

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#22 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Doomsday could take this honestly. Now I know you will all start laughing and saying good one but think about it. The only way that DD can be permanently put down or killed is through Entropy stuck in an Alternate dimension or having his particles erased he should be fine in this battle. Since no cosmic beings are allowed he can't be erased from existence and no BFR so he can adapt. And I just realized your right Allesandro I remember a scan of Franklin creating a universe in the palm of his hands or something so that rules him out.

#23 Posted by alessandro_souzamarques (654 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, unless it is kid Franklin considering he doesn't have full access to his full power.

You have a point. I guess its okay then.

#24 Edited by MarlboroMan (1560 posts) - - Show Bio
@sheenlantern said:

I'm pretty sure Goku isn't from Marvel or DC.

The answer, as always, is The Flash.

Really? you going to say Flash when Franklin Richards is allowed? Comicvine literally out of control about Flash who is his next enemy Spectre or Living Tribunal?

#25 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

No I took him out of the fight like suggested.

#26 Posted by MarlboroMan (1560 posts) - - Show Bio

@beezlebub: Yeah but he chosed Flash before Franklin was removed so i just wondered why

#27 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

Because he is an avid fanboy. Also I would like to let everybody know I was joking when I said Goku.

#28 Posted by aquaman01 (1292 posts) - - Show Bio

@sheenlantern said:

I'm pretty sure Goku isn't from Marvel or DC.

The answer, as always, is The Flash.

Really? you going to say Flash when Franklin Richards is allowed? Comicvine literally out of control about Flash who is his next enemy Spectre or Living Tribunal?

I swear, either Flash needs to powered WAY down or show he has limitations. Flash should, at full power, give Darkseid a bruised lip.

Seriously.

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#29 Posted by aquaman01 (1292 posts) - - Show Bio

Because he is an avid fanboy. Also I would like to let everybody know I was joking when I said Goku.

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#30 Edited by SheenLantern (6201 posts) - - Show Bio

@marlboroman said:
@sheenlantern said:

I'm pretty sure Goku isn't from Marvel or DC.

The answer, as always, is The Flash.

Really? you going to say Flash when Franklin Richards is allowed? Comicvine literally out of control about Flash who is his next enemy Spectre or Living Tribunal?

I swear, either Flash needs to powered WAY down or show he has limitations. Flash should, at full power, give Darkseid a bruised lip.

Seriously.

He already has, it's called the New 52.

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#31 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

You mean Jobberseid? XD

#32 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

I did say the most powerful versions of every hero that were non cosmic beings or universal threats/galaxy busters. Also why are there so many Jobberseid fanboys?

#33 Posted by aquaman01 (1292 posts) - - Show Bio

@aquaman01 said:

@marlboroman said:
@sheenlantern said:

I'm pretty sure Goku isn't from Marvel or DC.

The answer, as always, is The Flash.

Really? you going to say Flash when Franklin Richards is allowed? Comicvine literally out of control about Flash who is his next enemy Spectre or Living Tribunal?

I swear, either Flash needs to powered WAY down or show he has limitations. Flash should, at full power, give Darkseid a bruised lip.

Seriously.

He already has, it's called the New 52.

Oh yeah, I love his current comic. When I last read it , He was still very powerful (as he should be) but he wasn't some god. I haven't read the last 4 issues because I haven't had time. He is still the same? I hope so.

I am just scared he will get some Wally powers like speed steal or IMP (those were Wally right? sorry).

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#34 Edited by SheenLantern (6201 posts) - - Show Bio

@aquaman01: Anyone connected to the speed force can theoretically learn to steal speed. and anyone who can move at the speed of light can perform an IMP.

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#35 Posted by aquaman01 (1292 posts) - - Show Bio

You mean Jobberseid? XD

Hey, New 52 version is actually awesome! While I am sad he isn't being shown more as a guy who is behind the scene and fights when needed (or just mad lol), it is showing how powerful he is. I hope we see Darkseid again soon.

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#36 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

IMP is awesome! Makes absolutely no sense but still awesome.

#37 Posted by aquaman01 (1292 posts) - - Show Bio

@aquaman01: Anyone connected to the speed force can theoretically learn to steal speed. and anyone who can move at the speed of light can perform an IMP.

Ah okay, so was Wally just the first one to use it? I just hear Wally being known to use them. I hope they don't bring those two powers up. Is IMP actually scientific, like, if even Superman could go speed of light he can perform IMP?

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#38 Edited by SheenLantern (6201 posts) - - Show Bio

IMP is awesome! Makes absolutely no sense but still awesome.

How does it make no sense?

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#39 Posted by aquaman01 (1292 posts) - - Show Bio

IMP is awesome! Makes absolutely no sense but still awesome.

My problem isn't that it is awesome (it is!), but when people say he could beat Darkseid or even Superman because of that...then I think DC is giving Flash WAY too much power. Maybe say that he can't go IMP because of the speed force? of some crap, it IS comics.

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#40 Edited by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

Well I am the all powerful OC so let's add that no IMP by Superman or Flash.

#41 Posted by SuperDrummer (721 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Darwin should be mentioned, his adapting to these conditions would make him kind of unbeatable.

#42 Edited by SheenLantern (6201 posts) - - Show Bio

@sheenlantern said:

@aquaman01: Anyone connected to the speed force can theoretically learn to steal speed. and anyone who can move at the speed of light can perform an IMP.

Ah okay, so was Wally just the first one to use it? I just hear Wally being known to use them. I hope they don't bring those two powers up. Is IMP actually scientific, like, if even Superman could go speed of light he can perform IMP?

Yes and yes. Although in real life a fist travelling the speed of light would hit a lot, lot harder.

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#43 Posted by cosmicallyaware1 (4253 posts) - - Show Bio

@beezlebub @aquaman01: you guys are new to the vine aren't you? Welcome!

#44 Edited by aquaman01 (1292 posts) - - Show Bio

@aquaman01 said:

@sheenlantern said:

@aquaman01: Anyone connected to the speed force can theoretically learn to steal speed. and anyone who can move at the speed of light can perform an IMP.

Ah okay, so was Wally just the first one to use it? I just hear Wally being known to use them. I hope they don't bring those two powers up. Is IMP actually scientific, like, if even Superman could go speed of light he can perform IMP?

Yes and yes. Although in real life a fist travelling the speed of light would hit a lot, lot harder.

Ah okay. Then yeah, I would like DC to make a stupid excuse so Flash can't do that :) But that is just me of course. Maybe he can do that, but he loses most of his energy?

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#45 Posted by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

Well I'm kind of new. Thanks. No IMP's!

#46 Posted by aquaman01 (1292 posts) - - Show Bio

@beezlebub @aquaman01: you guys are new to the vine aren't you? Welcome!

Yep! Just joined 15 days ago :) I usually read the battles sections from time to time, but I had barely read any comics so I didn't want to make 100 spite threads!

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#47 Edited by Beezlebub (1864 posts) - - Show Bio

I only made stuff about what I know. Like Star Wars and LOTR.

#48 Edited by DeathandGrim (2002 posts) - - Show Bio

@beezlebub said:

Dude I'm not saying Flash wouldn't win but can you explain why? There are a mass of telepaths and reality warpers on small scales here especially people with regenerative abilities. Who's to say a telepath doesn't get him from far away?

annnnnnd in one picosecond they all drop dead from missing brains

phasing OP

#49 Edited by Pokeysteve (8025 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sure about Marvel but in DC:

Silver Age Superman
H/P Doomsday
Despero
Pre Crisis Darkseid

These four alone can eliminate the majority of DC and Marvel by themselves.

#50 Edited by BladeNB (187 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos end of discussion