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#1 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

Who is currently the most powerfull person in Marvel, excluding Skyfathers, Abstracts and multi/universal level threats, now? 
Annihilus doesn't have his Cosmic Rod. Thanos is imprisoned in Canncerverse. Kuurth losed his Juggernaut powers, Surfer was depowered by Galactus, Shaman X-Man losed his powers and Nova is probably dead. Most of heralds also died - Air Walker, Morg, Fallen One and Red Shift (Nova is depowered IIRC).
So who is currently the best one below Skyfathers/Hell Lords/semi-Skyfathers?
Rules:
1.No one in Destroyer, DP Tyrant or higher level.
2.Only people who are alive and present in Universe-616.
3.Only standard tech/eq. No Uru weapons for The Mighty or Hulkbuster for Iron Man. The Worthy can be present here, but only by their Serpent's names. 
4.No one who is imprisoned. 
5.Wizards (like Strange, Doom or Voodoo) are banned.
6.Only current versions. I know that heroes change, so I will sometime bump this thread.
 
It is a battle, since there will be votes for different people. I hope You will post scans.

#2 Posted by Saren (25081 posts) - - Show Bio

I lol'd when Surfer got replaced by an evangelist. 
 
Unless it's most current versions, I vote Kuurth. When he had the power of both Cyttorak and the Serpent, nothing was able to damage him even a little bit.

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#3 Edited by baron2011 (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

Who is currently the most powerfull person in Marvel, excluding Skyfathers, Abstracts and multi/universal level threats, now?
Annihilus doesn't have his Cosmic Rod. Thanos is imprisoned in Canncerverse. Kuurth losed his Juggernaut powers, Surfer was depowered by Galactus, Shaman X-Man losed his powers and Nova is probably dead. Most of heralds also died - Air Walker, Morg, Fallen One and Red Shift (Nova is depowered IIRC).
So who is currently the best one below Skyfathers/Hell Lords/semi-Skyfathers?
Rules:
1.No one in Destroyer, DP Tyrant or higher level.
2.Only people who are alive and present in Universe-616.
3.Only standard tech/eq. No Uru weapons for The Mighty or Hulkbuster for Iron Man. The Worthy can be present here, but only by their Serpent's names.
4.No one who is imprisoned.
5.Wizards (like Strange, Doom or Voodoo) are banned.
6.Only current versions. I know that heroes change, so I will sometime bump this thread.

It is a battle, since there will be votes for different people. I hope You will post scans.

so what is silver surfer power level right now?how depowered is silver surfer right now?

#4 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

 @CitizenBane said:

Unless it's most current versions, I vote Kuurth. When he had the power of both Cyttorak and the Serpent, nothing was able to damage him even a little bit.


It is always current. In any moment in which You're saying that.
 
For example:
If I would create this thread 6 months ago - Surfer would be the one IMO, but after 3 months, it would be Kuurth. 
 
It can change. I've made this thread to answer on this question more than once. And yes, Kuurth is already depowred from Juggy's powers.
 
@CitizenBane said:
I lol'd when Surfer got replaced by an evangelist. 
I've didn't. It was the worst stroy that I've read since... IDK. It was worse than Chaos War and Siege combined. Odin fighting with Galactus. Yggdrasil and this seed, that wasn't really explained. Surfer and this priest. +Thor's new beard, made in one panel. Seriously... People can say that Gillen forgot about few things in Journey Into Mystery #627, but I highly doubt that he would make "thing" (because I don't want to call it a comic book) like that.
#5 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@baron2011 said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

Who is currently the most powerfull person in Marvel, excluding Skyfathers, Abstracts and multi/universal level threats, now?
Annihilus doesn't have his Cosmic Rod. Thanos is imprisoned in Canncerverse. Kuurth losed his Juggernaut powers, Surfer was depowered by Galactus, Shaman X-Man losed his powers and Nova is probably dead. Most of heralds also died - Air Walker, Morg, Fallen One and Red Shift (Nova is depowered IIRC).
So who is currently the best one below Skyfathers/Hell Lords/semi-Skyfathers?
Rules:
1.No one in Destroyer, DP Tyrant or higher level.
2.Only people who are alive and present in Universe-616.
3.Only standard tech/eq. No Uru weapons for The Mighty or Hulkbuster for Iron Man. The Worthy can be present here, but only by their Serpent's names.
4.No one who is imprisoned.
5.Wizards (like Strange, Doom or Voodoo) are banned.
6.Only current versions. I know that heroes change, so I will sometime bump this thread.

It is a battle, since there will be votes for different people. I hope You will post scans.

so what is silver surfer power level right now?how depowered is silver surfer right now?

We don't know. Galactus simply took part of his energy and made him look like human. He also said that Surfer will be weaker and weaker on Earth.
#6 Posted by Saren (25081 posts) - - Show Bio
@czarny_samael666: In that case, would Legion count? He's a universe warper so he might be above Skyfather level if all his powers are taken into account. 
 
And yeah, it was a pretty bad story. That whole thing with the World Tree Seed wasn't explained at all, I have no idea what they were fighting for. And Surfer's writing was dreadfully out of character in the last issue. And where did Thor's beard just spring from?
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#7 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane said:
@czarny_samael666: In that case, would Legion count? He's a universe warper so he might be above Skyfather level if all his powers are taken into account.  And yeah, it was a pretty bad story. That whole thing with the World Tree Seed wasn't explained at all, I have no idea what they were fighting for. And Surfer's writing was dreadfully out of character in the last issue. And where did Thor's beard just spring from?
1.As You've said Legion is above Skyfathers - so he is banned.
2.I don't know what was worse - Surfer's speach or Odin's fight with Galactus.
 
And according to that comic, Thor is (was in Fear Itself) depowered a little... 
3.IDK what are they doing with his beard. There was a "Loeb Force" once... IMO "Fraction Power" is above that one.
#8 Posted by demifiend (3562 posts) - - Show Bio

apoc

#9 Posted by entropy_aegis (15439 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@CitizenBane said:
@czarny_samael666: In that case, would Legion count? He's a universe warper so he might be above Skyfather level if all his powers are taken into account. And yeah, it was a pretty bad story. That whole thing with the World Tree Seed wasn't explained at all, I have no idea what they were fighting for. And Surfer's writing was dreadfully out of character in the last issue. And where did Thor's beard just spring from?
1.As You've said Legion is above Skyfathers - so he is banned. 2.I don't know what was worse - Surfer's speach or Odin's fight with Galactus. And according to that comic, Thor is (was in Fear Itself) depowered a little... 3.IDK what are they doing with his beard. There was a "Loeb Force" once... IMO "Fraction Power" is above that one.

Wait Odin fought Galactus?

#10 Posted by Saren (25081 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@CitizenBane said:
@czarny_samael666: In that case, would Legion count? He's a universe warper so he might be above Skyfather level if all his powers are taken into account. And yeah, it was a pretty bad story. That whole thing with the World Tree Seed wasn't explained at all, I have no idea what they were fighting for. And Surfer's writing was dreadfully out of character in the last issue. And where did Thor's beard just spring from?
1.As You've said Legion is above Skyfathers - so he is banned. 2.I don't know what was worse - Surfer's speach or Odin's fight with Galactus. And according to that comic, Thor is (was in Fear Itself) depowered a little... 3.IDK what are they doing with his beard. There was a "Loeb Force" once... IMO "Fraction Power" is above that one.

Wait Odin fought Galactus?

And actually lasted longer than 10 minutes. Can you believe that crap?
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#11 Posted by entropy_aegis (15439 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@CitizenBane said:
@czarny_samael666: In that case, would Legion count? He's a universe warper so he might be above Skyfather level if all his powers are taken into account. And yeah, it was a pretty bad story. That whole thing with the World Tree Seed wasn't explained at all, I have no idea what they were fighting for. And Surfer's writing was dreadfully out of character in the last issue. And where did Thor's beard just spring from?
1.As You've said Legion is above Skyfathers - so he is banned. 2.I don't know what was worse - Surfer's speach or Odin's fight with Galactus. And according to that comic, Thor is (was in Fear Itself) depowered a little... 3.IDK what are they doing with his beard. There was a "Loeb Force" once... IMO "Fraction Power" is above that one.

Wait Odin fought Galactus?

And actually lasted longer than 10 minutes. Can you believe that crap?

Scans please.

#12 Posted by Jake Fury (19203 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis said:

And actually lasted longer than 10 minutes. Can you believe that crap?

Scans please.



Don't waste the strain on your eyes looking at them. Pure garbage.  
This entire arc was nothing but Fraction's leftover wank from the movie.
#13 Posted by demifiend (3562 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jake Fury said:
@entropy_aegis said:

And actually lasted longer than 10 minutes. Can you believe that crap?

Scans please.

Don't waste the strain on your eyes looking at them. Pure garbage.  This entire arc was nothing but Fraction's leftover wank from the movie.
scanssssssssssss
#14 Posted by entropy_aegis (15439 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jake Fury said:

@entropy_aegis said:

And actually lasted longer than 10 minutes. Can you believe that crap?

Scans please.

Don't waste the strain on your eyes looking at them. Pure garbage. This entire arc was nothing but Fraction's leftover wank from the movie.

I cannot resist.

#15 Edited by demifiend (3562 posts) - - Show Bio

That's right, Odin just HEADBUTTED Jobberlactus, Destroyer of Worlds 
#16 Posted by Saren (25081 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis said:

@CitizenBane said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@CitizenBane said:
@czarny_samael666: In that case, would Legion count? He's a universe warper so he might be above Skyfather level if all his powers are taken into account. And yeah, it was a pretty bad story. That whole thing with the World Tree Seed wasn't explained at all, I have no idea what they were fighting for. And Surfer's writing was dreadfully out of character in the last issue. And where did Thor's beard just spring from?
1.As You've said Legion is above Skyfathers - so he is banned. 2.I don't know what was worse - Surfer's speach or Odin's fight with Galactus. And according to that comic, Thor is (was in Fear Itself) depowered a little... 3.IDK what are they doing with his beard. There was a "Loeb Force" once... IMO "Fraction Power" is above that one.

Wait Odin fought Galactus?

And actually lasted longer than 10 minutes. Can you believe that crap?

Scans please.

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#17 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio
@czarny_samael666 said:
Surfer was depowered by Galactus, .

When?
#18 Posted by Saren (25081 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@czarny_samael666 said:
Surfer was depowered by Galactus, .
When?
The Mighty Thor #6.
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#19 Posted by entropy_aegis (15439 posts) - - Show Bio

@demifiend:

Nah you mean Joblactus.@CitizenBane: Thanks.

#20 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@czarny_samael666 said:
Surfer was depowered by Galactus, .
When?
The Mighty Thor #6.

WTF. WHY? Is Marvel trying to nerf itself or something?
#21 Posted by Saren (25081 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@CitizenBane said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@czarny_samael666 said:
Surfer was depowered by Galactus, .
When?
The Mighty Thor #6.
WTF. WHY? Is Marvel trying to nerf itself or something?
I like to think they completely lost their shit when the new 52 achieved success, so they're shaking stuff up to try and interest people again. It's the only reason I can see for this kind of abject insanity.
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#22 Posted by entropy_aegis (15439 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane:

I don't think there was anything unfeasible about what Odin did,he gave Galactus a nosebleed at best and died/passed out ? later

#23 Posted by Shamelesslysupportinaznballers (553 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666: Surfer should still have the same powers as long as he stays on Earth. It's only when he goes away from Earth, the weaker he becomes.

As for his human form, I took it as Surfer can look that way if he chooses to, I could be wrong.

#24 Posted by Saren (25081 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis: He temporarily TP'd Galactus and then knocked him out for a short while. They dragged this fight out over 3 issues.
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#25 Edited by demifiend (3562 posts) - - Show Bio

thats why i hate thor and jobberlactus,  
 
firts,  thor fought with celestials, and next he loses almost all the times againts the hulk, 
surfer is the superduperuperpowerfull character but he loses to thor. X.x 
and now this patetic god odin destroy jobberlactus head...    and in chaos war, hercules a moron character who hasnt brain saves the universe....
 
marvel think all his readers are stupid, mm well theres some here. but not all are so stupid

#26 Edited by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@CitizenBane said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@czarny_samael666 said:
Surfer was depowered by Galactus, .
When?
The Mighty Thor #6.
WTF. WHY? Is Marvel trying to nerf itself or something?
I like to think they completely lost their shit when the new 52 achieved success, so they're shaking stuff up to try and interest people again. It's the only reason I can see for this kind of abject insanity.

Yeah, makes sense. DC got nerfed, co why not Marvel?
#27 Posted by entropy_aegis (15439 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@CitizenBane said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@CitizenBane said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@czarny_samael666 said:
Surfer was depowered by Galactus, .
When?
The Mighty Thor #6.
WTF. WHY? Is Marvel trying to nerf itself or something?
I like to think they completely lost their shit when the new 52 achieved success, so they're shaking stuff up to try and interest people again. It's the only reason I can see for this kind of abject insanity.
Yeah, makes sense. DC got nerfed, co why not Marvel?

Only temporarily,after the first arcs it's back to business as usual.Midnighter is as bad as he was.

#28 Posted by entropy_aegis (15439 posts) - - Show Bio

@demifiend said:

thats why i hate thor and jobberlactus, firts, thor fought with celestials, and next he loses almost all the times againts the hulk, surfer is the superduperuperpowerfull character but he loses to thor. X.x and now this patetic god odin destroy jobberlactus head... and in chaos war, hercules a moron character who hasnt brain saves the universe.... marvel think all his readers are stupid, mm well theres some here. but not all are so stupid

Eh,it happens to everyone and in both companies all the time.

#29 Posted by Saren (25081 posts) - - Show Bio
@entropy_aegis said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@CitizenBane said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@CitizenBane said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@czarny_samael666 said:
Surfer was depowered by Galactus, .
When?
The Mighty Thor #6.
WTF. WHY? Is Marvel trying to nerf itself or something?
I like to think they completely lost their shit when the new 52 achieved success, so they're shaking stuff up to try and interest people again. It's the only reason I can see for this kind of abject insanity.
Yeah, makes sense. DC got nerfed, co why not Marvel?

Only temporarily,after the first arcs it's back to business as usual.Midnighter is as bad as he was.

Do you mean the good kind of bad or the bad bad?
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#30 Posted by whacknasty (5595 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow...that was a massive flying headbutt from Odin...Lol

Umm... How is Gladiator looking these days?

#31 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@demifiend said:
thats why i hate thor and jobberlactus,   firts,  thor fought with celestials, and next he loses almost all the times againts the hulk, surfer is the superduperuperpowerfull character but he loses to thor. X.x and now this patetic god odin destroy jobberlactus head...    and in chaos war, hercules a moron character who hasnt brain saves the universe.... marvel think all his readers are stupid, mm well theres some here. but not all are so stupid
Don't bring Thor vs. Hulk here. Hulk isn't close to many people who can be place in this thread (like Quasar,Thor,BRB,Gladiator, etc.) And since when Apoc is alive? I thought that Archangel replace him, killed the child and is present in AoA, not 616? Besides, I don't think that Apoc was ever as good as Herald/Thor level beings.

And this whole story was the biggest bu##sh## in Marvel in last years. If no - I want to see bigger. Really. Even in Chaos War we've didn't seen anything like that and Siege was later explained a little by probably only What If, that can be bring to canon-debate.
 
@Shamelesslysupportinaznballers said:

@czarny_samael666: Surfer should still have the same powers as long as he stays on Earth. It's only when he goes away from Earth, the weaker he becomes.

As for his human form, I took it as Surfer can look that way if he chooses to, I could be wrong.


According to what Galactus said Surfer is currently imprison on Earth and will be weaker and weaker. Probably to find seed faster.
 
 
Besides, Fraction will write Defenders with Strange, Surfer, Namor and at least two Hulks in it. We also know that Iron Fist is currently Agamotto's Avatar, so new WIS and changing history is coming.
 
Why Gillen can't make all Marvel comics? Besides small mistakes, he and PAD writes his comic in very intresting and inteligent way. For example, who before him used mutant's powers as he did agaisnt Kuurth? Or who tried to explain why other gods don't attack Serpent? 
Most of people he used, were forgotten. 
And PAD's X-Factor is probably the best Marvel series a long with UXM right now. 
 
I know that Marvel movies >>>>>>>> DC movies, which gives Marvel much more money than comics, but still... It is just simply sad.
#32 Edited by demifiend (3562 posts) - - Show Bio
@czarny_samael666:  
 
i dont want to iniate a debate here about thor vs hulk. just saying why righ now i dont like marvel. 
 
Marvel movies >>>>>>>> DC movies 
 
really??? OMG you are insane! 
 
  
#33 Posted by Saren (25081 posts) - - Show Bio
@czarny_samael666: As bad as this was, Ultimatum was a million times worse. 
 
And Marvel makes more movies than DC. Not necessarily better ones.
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#34 Posted by demifiend (3562 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane said:
@czarny_samael666: As bad as this was, Ultimatum was a million times worse. 
 
And Marvel makes more movies than DC. Not necessarily better ones.
well i havent seen a marvel movie better than dark knight, in fact marvel movies suck, example, fantastic four, ghost rider, elektra, daredevil, etc etc etc
#35 Posted by Jake Fury (19203 posts) - - Show Bio

This is an easy one.  
 
Cosmo - Nova #8
#36 Posted by progenitor (7533 posts) - - Show Bio
@demifiend
true, but they've also got Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, X2, Spider-Man 2, Blade.
#37 Posted by Saren (25081 posts) - - Show Bio
@demifiend said:
@CitizenBane said:
@czarny_samael666: As bad as this was, Ultimatum was a million times worse. 
 
And Marvel makes more movies than DC. Not necessarily better ones.
well i havent seen a marvel movie better than dark knight, in fact marvel movies suck, example, fantastic four, ghost rider, elektra, daredevil, etc etc etc
That's because there aren't any. Marvel has some great movies, though, like X2, Spider-Man 2, Captain America and Iron Man 1. The rest are either ok to good, and then there are the shitty ones like Daredevil, Ghost Rider, Punisher, Fantastic Four, Hulk, Wolverine, Blade: Trinity, and X3. And Howard The Duck, which has the honor of being considered one of the very worst movies ever made by multiple organizations.
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#38 Posted by demifiend (3562 posts) - - Show Bio
@progenitor said:
@demifiend: true, but they've also got Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, X2, Spider-Man 2, Blade.
thor sucks. i like iron man, 
#39 Posted by Saren (25081 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, Thor was boring.

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#40 Posted by progenitor (7533 posts) - - Show Bio
@demifiend said:
@progenitor said:
@demifiend: true, but they've also got Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, X2, Spider-Man 2, Blade.
thor sucks. i like iron man, 

really? I loved Thor.  I've hated Iron Man ever since he was responsible for Captain America being "assassinated." ;P
#41 Posted by difficlus (10632 posts) - - Show Bio

@baron2011 said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

Who is currently the most powerfull person in Marvel, excluding Skyfathers, Abstracts and multi/universal level threats, now?
Annihilus doesn't have his Cosmic Rod. Thanos is imprisoned in Canncerverse. Kuurth losed his Juggernaut powers, Surfer was depowered by Galactus, Shaman X-Man losed his powers and Nova is probably dead. Most of heralds also died - Air Walker, Morg, Fallen One and Red Shift (Nova is depowered IIRC).
So who is currently the best one below Skyfathers/Hell Lords/semi-Skyfathers?
Rules:
1.No one in Destroyer, DP Tyrant or higher level.
2.Only people who are alive and present in Universe-616.
3.Only standard tech/eq. No Uru weapons for The Mighty or Hulkbuster for Iron Man. The Worthy can be present here, but only by their Serpent's names.
4.No one who is imprisoned.
5.Wizards (like Strange, Doom or Voodoo) are banned.
6.Only current versions. I know that heroes change, so I will sometime bump this thread.

It is a battle, since there will be votes for different people. I hope You will post scans.

so what is silver surfer power level right now?how depowered is silver surfer right now?

normal human level. lol. a pastor took his place as the herald.

#42 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio
@demifiend said:
@progenitor said:
@demifiend: true, but they've also got Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, X2, Spider-Man 2, Blade.
thor sucks. i like iron man, 

@CitizenBane said:
Yeah, Thor was boring.


ARE YOU MAD?!?!?!??!? THOR WAS AWESOME!
#43 Posted by progenitor (7533 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001
Dude, for sure.  I own it, lol.
#44 Posted by Saren (25081 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@demifiend said:
@progenitor said:
@demifiend: true, but they've also got Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, X2, Spider-Man 2, Blade.
thor sucks. i like iron man, 

@CitizenBane said:
Yeah, Thor was boring.
ARE YOU MAD?!?!?!??!? THOR WAS AWESOME!
Thor's central character was boring, it's supporting characters were boring, its villain was dull as ditchwater, and the 3D was horrible. Anthony Hopkins was the only thing good about it.
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#45 Posted by progenitor (7533 posts) - - Show Bio
@CitizenBane said:
Yeah, Thor was boring.

Come on, man, the Asgardians vs. the Frost Giants, Thor and co. vs. the Frost Giants, Thor kicking some ass throughout the SHIELD complex, his fight with Destroyer and Loki? I thought it had some great action.
#46 Posted by demifiend (3562 posts) - - Show Bio
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@demifiend said:
@progenitor said:
@demifiend: true, but they've also got Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, X2, Spider-Man 2, Blade.
thor sucks. i like iron man, 

@CitizenBane said:
Yeah, Thor was boring.
ARE YOU MAD?!?!?!??!? THOR WAS AWESOME!
how!? destroyer armor was so weak, frost giants look like clowns, odin wasnt respectable just and oldman 
bad effects, and bad argument,    how was awesome for you?
#47 Posted by progenitor (7533 posts) - - Show Bio
@demifiend said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@demifiend said:
@progenitor said:
@demifiend: true, but they've also got Thor, Captain America, Iron Man, X2, Spider-Man 2, Blade.
thor sucks. i like iron man, 

@CitizenBane said:
Yeah, Thor was boring.
ARE YOU MAD?!?!?!??!? THOR WAS AWESOME!
how!? destroyer armor was so sweet, frost giants look like beasts, odin wasnt respectable just and oldman awesome effects, and bad argument,    how was awesome for you?

fixed.
#48 Posted by Saren (25081 posts) - - Show Bio
@progenitor said:
@CitizenBane said:
Yeah, Thor was boring.
Come on, man, the Asgardians vs. the Frost Giants, Thor and co. vs. the Frost Giants, Thor kicking some ass throughout the SHIELD complex, his fight with Destroyer and Loki? I thought it had some great action.
Maybe, but a decent story and characters to go along with it would have been a good idea.
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#49 Posted by entropy_aegis (15439 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@entropy_aegis said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@CitizenBane said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@CitizenBane said:
@venomoushatred1001 said:
@czarny_samael666 said:
Surfer was depowered by Galactus, .
When?
The Mighty Thor #6.
WTF. WHY? Is Marvel trying to nerf itself or something?
I like to think they completely lost their shit when the new 52 achieved success, so they're shaking stuff up to try and interest people again. It's the only reason I can see for this kind of abject insanity.
Yeah, makes sense. DC got nerfed, co why not Marvel?

Only temporarily,after the first arcs it's back to business as usual.Midnighter is as bad as he was.

Do you mean the good kind of bad or the bad bad?

Good kind of bad.

#50 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38789 posts) - - Show Bio
Is the High Evolutionary allowed?