who in real life can beat yuri boyka?

no prep, ring mathc

No one.

10 berserker mode mes.

Bruce Lee.

Plenty of people can.

Hurr hurr hurr

Yeah right, there's one, exactly one person in a world full of superhuman martial artists that can beat Boyka. So no, there isn't a single person in the real world that can beat him, let alone "plenty".

Don't be ridiculous.

"superhuman"

Lol.

And notice how I never said who could beat.

Been a long time since you watched Undisputed, wasn't it?

And notice how I never said who could beat.

That's because there aren't any.

I remember the movie well, and I don't recall them doing anything that I haven't seen before.

Sure, there are.

You know, for the life of me I can't remember seeing anyone send 250lb+ men flying with glancing blows.

Sure, there are.

Name one.

Watch, it's gonna be something asinine like Brock Lesnar or Bruce Lee.

When did Boyka send a 250+ man flying with a glancing blow?

Prime Fedor.

I wasn't talking about Boyka, I was talking about Dolor.

Prime Fedor.

Throat pressure point, instant kill.

Done.

There isn't a single person in the real world that could beat Yuri.

Okay, so show me.

Just like he did to Chambers, right?

@sheenlantern:

• Jet Li(Prime)
• Jackie Chan(Prime)
• Donnie Yen(Prime)
• Bukaw
• Danny(Jet Li)
• Michael J White
• Bruce Lee

Etc.....

Jon bone jones would beat him with a elbow to the face!!!

@auction_sniper: Show you what? The throat strike or the Dolor thing?

In Undisputed 2, an enraged Boyka strikes a guy in the throat, he clutches his throat and then falls to the ground, dead. (Around 1 hour in)

Undisputed 3, Dolor kicks Boyka in the face, it sends him flying over the ropes and out of the ring. (Around an hour and a half in)

Just like he did to Chambers, right?

I'm pretty sure there's a rule against that kind of thing.

I'm gonna need detailed explanations for all of these. Which I'm sure is gonna be fun, real world people vs. fictional characters always swing heavily in favor of the real world people, right?

Jackie Chan isn't even a martial artist... he was a stuntman who became an actor in improv combat (using environment to fight).

@retconcrisis:

He was a dancer and he found a way to turn it into fighting. Its basically like someone doing Capoeria. Either we he can still fight.

I'm gonna need detailed explanations for all of these. Which I'm sure is gonna be fun, real world people vs. fictional characters always swing heavily in favor of the real world people, right?

So Yuri Boyka is a real world person? Oh I must have gotten him and Scott Adkins mixed up....

@loseup: anyone with a gun

And where did it say he was over 250+? Hell, you make it out as if he was in the center of the ring, hit him once, and he went flying out of the arena.

Yeah, no. Not only would he not kill him, but he wouldn't be landing it on him anyway.

@auction_sniper:

And where did it say he was over 250+?

Scott Adkins is built like a brick sh!t house, I've seen guys who weigh more than that and aren't that huge.

Hell, you make it out as if he was in the center of the ring, hit him once, and he went flying out of the arena.

No, I make it sound how it was. That he kicked him and he went flying over the ropes and out of the ring.

Not only would he not kill him,

Uh, why not?

but he wouldn't be landing it on him anyway.

He has zero, absolutely no problem landing any other hits on him. Including flying kicks that take seconds to perform. Let alone a quick jab to the throat that can be done in like a tenth of a second.

Again, where does it say he was 250+ pounds?

I'm assuming this takes place in a "official" organization, so I don't see him killing him at all.

Again, why didn't he do any of this to Chambers, Dolor, or anyone else he fought? Not only that, but Fedor isn't going to be standing there like an idiot. Yet he got his leg shattered by a guy with zero grappling skills.

Dunno why people are only using famous actor martial artists. Just because they seemed super skilled in movies doesn't mean they're that skilled in real life. And those fights are choreographed so that they win, it isn't like a guy can take on 30 dudes in real life and not be injured.

It's like saying Tom Cruise could be amazing help in a real life espionage mission, or Sean Connery is a great sword fighter lol

@cf12793: bit Bruce was the real deal, unlike the karate kid. You know?

Kinda nobody. hes the most complete fighter in the world.

@auction_sniper:

Again, where does it say he was 250+ pounds?

Christ almighty...

I'm estimating his weight via comparison to similar builds and physiques.

Most people would be able to figure that out by themselves, weird how I have to spoon feed you like this.

I'm assuming this takes place in a "official" organization, so I don't see him killing him at all.

Hurr durr where does it say it takes place in an official organizaton

Again, why didn't he do any of this to Chambers?

Wow, memory loss, too? You should see a Doctor.

"I'm pretty sure there's a rule against that kind of thing."

Fedor isn't going to be standing there like an idiot.

What is he going to do, exactly? Miss spectacularly because he's a real dude with limitations fighting a fictional character?

Yet he got his leg shattered by a guy with zero grappling skills.

Golly, even more memory loss. Guess you forgot about the part where he was taught an extremely specific technique by a professional torturer.

Bruce WAS the real deal for sure, but he still couldn't beat Boyka in a fight. He'd hold his own for sure, and probably come closest in the group to beating him, but not actually beat him.

Not a battle and in the wrong forum - @vance_astro@deranged_midget

Iko Uwais and Donnie Yen could probably beat him, Idk though.

So, in other words, you're making assumptions with no evidence? I've seen plenty of people bigger than Boyka, yet they are nowhere near 250+ pounds. Scott Adkins isn't even anywhere near 200 pounds in real life, let alone 250 pounds.

Key words: "I'm assuming"

Yet you still didn't answer my qustion.

Miss based on what? There's a difference between a skilled mixed-martial artist and a guy that fights bums in prison.

Which doesn't change the fact that he got his leg shattered by someone who had no grappling skills.

@auction_sniper:

So, in other words, you're making assumptions with no evidence? I've seen plenty of people bigger than Boyka, yet they are nowhere near 250+ pounds.

Who? Be specific.

Key words: "I'm assuming"

Hurr durr you're making assumptions with no evidence.

Yet you still didn't answer my qustion.

Goodness me, you're blind, too? Jeez, that's too bad.

Let me put it in extra big bold letters so you can read it easier.

"I'm pretty sure there's a rule against that kind of thing."

Miss based on what?

Uh, well let's see. The Columbian's movements were purposely sped-up for dramatic reasons and Boyka could still dodge his attacks. Let's compare that to whoever it was who you picked, who is a normal human, and can only do things that normal humans can do.

There's a difference between a skilled mixed-martial artist and a guy that fights bums in prison.

Oh, so you didn't watch Undisputed 3 at all? Where he fights and defeats expert fighters from all over the world?

Which doesn't change the fact he got his leg shattered by someone who had no grappling skills.

Ah, no, you see, that's your short-term memory loss getting the better of you again. Chambers did have grappling skills, in fact, they make it a point in the film to show he was training to learn grappling skills and was taught that specific knee breaking move by a professional.

Gsp

Bas Rutten

Mahamad Ali (Strickly Boxing) prime.

Mike Tyson (strickly boxing) prime.

LL Cool J (Strickly Boxing) Todd is a legit street fighter. A Trained boxer, and actually trained with Navy Seals for six months to prepare for NCIS. He is large enough to not be overwhelmed, and fast enough to get in a few.

Anderson Silva. If he wasn't such an ass, he could be far better then he is. He does make a fight fun to watch.

Tyron Woodley, Rashad Evans, Kevin Randleman, etc.

Except it isn't stated in the rules.

There's a rule based on what?

"The Columbian's movements were purposely sped-up for dramatic reasons and Boyka could still dodge his attacks." "still"? I'm not sure what his movements being sped up for dramatic reasons has to do with him dodging his attacks in "actual" speed. I'm guessing you don't know who Fedor is. Boyka was getting outstruck by Chambers until he started using kicks. I'm sure if Fedor, who is a far superior striker to Chambers, would have no problem outstriking Boyka.

As far as I'm concerned, they are bums in prison.

Exactly, " learn grappling skills." Training grappling skills with a guy in prison doesn't automatically mean you have grappling skills. it was a reason why Chambers didn't want to spend time on the ground with Boyka. The fact that the old guy had to show him grappling moves alone shows that he didn't have grappling skills. Feat-wise, Chambers has not shown ANY grappling skills. And even if he did, he didn't show to be experienced. Not to mention Boyka has the messed up leg.

So this thread seems to be people riding the crap out of Boyka.

with what he demonstrates in the movie He would lose to real fighters. not all of them but the best of the best yes.

He didn`t do anything ``Superhuman`` in the movies as people are claiming.

He`s a prison fighter who beats up other prison fighters always in a 1 on 1 environment. he also knocks out a couple random nobody guards.

the actor who plays him is skilled in TKD and judo but the TKD is the only thing he uses strongly in the movies.

So Prime Fedor would destroy him. Mirko cro cop would destroy, Jon Jones would destroy, Silva would destroy, GSP would destroy etc. if you belive the stuff about bruce people claim He could do that absolutely bruce would wreck him in a second. Joe Roegan would stand a chance against Yuri. sorry fanboys.

you mean other guys from other prisons around the world right? cause those guys aren`t supposed to be professional MMA athletes....

The biggest question of them all is, Who's Yuri?

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@youmessinwithme: No Boyka showed some pretty crazy feats that not even the best in he world would attempt in a real fight. Silva,Jones and those other guys are great but they wouldnt beat yuri. he's movie status so he definatley wins.

@auction_sniper:

Tyron Woodley, Rashad Evans, Kevin Randleman, etc.

Boyka has bigger muscles than any of those guys.

Except it isn't stated in the rules.

Of course not, it wouldn't be a baseless assumption if it was.

There's a rule based on what?

F***ing murdering your opponent in cold blood, on purpose! Heck, the ref nearly threw a fit in U3 when Boyka broke Dolor's knee.

I'm not sure what his movements being sped up for dramatic reasons has to do with him dodging his attacks in "actual" speed.

They were trying to convey that Dolor was hot sh!t, steepen the mountain Boyka had to climb etc.

Boyka was getting outstruck by Chambers until he started using kicks.

No sh!t, Chambers is a former boxing champion, Boyka is a sambo expert. Who did you expect to be the better boxer?

I'm sure if Fedor, who is a far superior striker to Chambers,

Chambers uppercutted a guy across a room, punched a guard so hard he flew across the room, landed on a metal pipe and broke it, kicked a guy in the courtyard so hard he went flying several meters. I've never heard of this Fedor guy, but I know for a fact he can't do stuff like this.

As far as I'm concerned, they are bums in prison.

It's alright, I've come to learn in this short little discussion that you don't know much about anything at all. So what you think doesn't exactly hold much value in my eyes.

Training grappling skills with a guy in prison doesn't automatically mean you have grappling skills.

Uh, yeah it does. Why wouldn't it?

The fact that the old guy had to show him grappling moves alone shows that he didn't have grappling skills.

That's f***ing stupid. That's like saying "The fact that Henri Ducard and David Cain had to teach Bruce Wayne martial arts shows that he doesn't have any fighting skills".

Not to mention Boyka has the messed up leg.

Didn't seem to affect him much in Undisputed 3. "Good knee, bad knee, no knee...You're still the best fighter in the world."

The American -* Yuri voice *

No.

No he didn`t.

just simply stating the opposite of my point doesn`t make it true.

nor does the fact that it is a movie mean he`s better than real world fighters. none of the characters in NBD 1 or 2 or the warrior were shown to be portrayed as better fighters than Jon jones or Silva.

He has better TKD then any of them, cause the actor who plays him is a real TKD blackbelt. and anything outside of that he did show was probably there simply cause it looks cool and wouldn`t be very effective in a real fight.

VS

Golly guys, you were right. Fedor is obviously way out of Boyka's league, and will totally not be reduced to a pile of bloody chunks at the end of the fight while Boyka leaves without a scratch. There is no way that is happening

Pfft. Yuri knows choreography and fights fodder no-bodies.

golly your one random gif of each sure showed everyone.......

so we now have a fighter vs a gymnast.

who the fighter would then take down and submit.

@youmessinwithme: Except you can clearly see Boyka is far faster, hits way harder and is more skilled.

Boyka is not bigger than Randleman. At all.

So you expect Boyka to murder Fedor, yet he didn't do it to Dolor? Still, there's nothing that says they aren't allowed to kill. Even if they were, Boyka didn't seem to be in a situation where you he could land that attack anyway, regardless of his opponent. Not to mention that Boyka doesn't seem like the type to just up and kill someone.

Point is - isn't Boyka supposed to be the best in the world/beat the best of the best? If so, why would he get outstruck by someone of Chamber's caliber? I'm sure there's a difference between getting outstruck and outboxed; Boyka was getting outstruck and outboxed. Chambers only started to lose when they drugged him.

Whether he can do stuff like that or not, I'm sure he's a superior striker to Chambers.

All we know is they hold illegal MMA in prisons. Nothing more.

Read above.

What I mean is, just because you train for a certain amount of time doesn't automatically mean you can experience in grappling. In order words, just because I train for a certain amount of time doesn't not mean I gain the experience of a blackbelt in BJJ. Chambers even admitted that he could fight Boyka to a knockout. If was so experienced, they why didn't he mention that he could submit him too?

these statements just aren`t true.

Boyka is moving faster specifically in the two examples you presented.

Does not hit harder. you cannot visually measure pounds of pressure.

is more skilled at TKD and or stage fighting. Fedor would take him down and submit him.

@auction_sniper:

Boyka is not bigger than Randleman. At all.

Yeah...he is.

He's also taller than Randleman, which makes muscles look smaller than they actually are.

So you expect Boyka to murder Fedor, yet he didn't do it to Dolor?

Uh, yeah. Dolor>>>Fedor

Boyka doesn't seem like the type to just up and kill someone.

He did it a lot in Undisputed 2....

If so, why would he get outstruck by someone of Chamber's caliber?

Because Chambers is a freaking badass. And would make short work of Fedor too.

Whether he can do stuff like that or not, I'm sure he's a superior striker to Chambers.

Noooo evidence fo' dat. Just made it up!

just because you train for a certain amount of time doesn't automatically mean you can experience in grappling.

Obviously not, they got into a grapple in Round 2 and Boyka nearly broke Chambers' leg. Chambers only one because of the very specific move.

Chambers even admitted that he could fight Boyka to a knockout.

No he didn't, in fact the general consensus between him an the coach was that if he didn't break Boyka's knee, he would lose.

@youmessinwithme:

Boyka is moving faster specifically in the two examples you presented.

Please, show me Fedor moving as fast as Boyka.

Does not hit harder. you cannot visually measure pounds of pressure.

Well yeah you can... Fedor's punches don't make people explode blood out of their mouths spontaneously and he doesn't toss people around the ring with glancing blows.

is more skilled at TKD and or stage fighting.

Boyka doesn't use Taekwondo....In fact, looking at his bio...Neither does Fedor..

Fedor would take him down and submit him.

Yeeeaaah...Getting close to Boyka is just about the worst thing he could do. Boyka could just snap his neck or instantly kill him via pressure point.

Maybe not necessarily win against Boyka but I'd love to see him fight the following:

1. Prime Semmy Schilt
2. Prime Tyson
3. Prime Ali
4. Prime Peter Aerts
5. Prime Ernesto Hoost
6. Prime Sugar Ray Robinson
7. Prime Frank Dux

I'm sure they'll give a good match.