Who in real life can beat Black Widow? (Movie)

no prep, no weapons, ring match

Uhmm... no one.

ryan reynolds and a phone hacker

inb4 Chuck Norris. This guy stomps.

Jackie Chan, Brock Lesnar.

Bruce lee would have destroyed her

@alakemega123: lol no. Unless movie feats are allowed but real-life Bruce get wrecked.

@mtuske: how Bruce lee was one of the greatest martial artist of his time and that we know of. Movie black widow wasn't that impressive to me

@alakemega123: No he really wasn't. Any recorded fights that you have? What's his professional record. Nearly all of his feats are hearsay and rumor mill. One person says this and another said no this happened. If he was so good he would have fought at least one professional fight but he knew he'd get his ass kicked and it would hurt his image

@mtuske: he actually did fight in tournaments and quite a few street fights as well. He was a legit fighter.

Anyone who's trained.

Ip Man

Anyone or any man?

@brunnhilde: I feel like that is a loaded question.

michael Jai White,

Iko Uwais from the raid 2

Jason Statham

chuck norris

I think that just about answers it

Anybody that can shrug off a punch from the Hulk.......so no one.

Chris Brown and Ike Turner double team.

You're joking right? By anyone who's trained do you mean anyone who's been through military training? Any kid with a black belt cuz the sensai felt bad since they've been going to the classes for years? Doesn't matter how you look at it, there's no way that "anyone who's trained" could take someone who has fast enough reaction time to grab onto a speeding alien cruiser mid air, enough durability to keep operating at peak capacity after being hit by the Hulk (even if it wasn't his strongest hit obviously), strength enough to fling fully grown men around with her legs, and enough skill to take on battalions of soldiers without batting an eye.

For those who are forgetting how good she is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97hO7FlaAok

Mark Henry

@allstarsuperman: You mean when hulk ran by and his hand brushed her?

@bflynn316: Grabbing a crusier has nothing to do with speed. She was tossed up by Steve rogers. No speed involved. And she was not hit by hulk. His hand brushed her and she went flying. She was about to die when he was going to backhand her and she was saved by Thor. Also it doesn't take strength to throw grown men. Its called martial arts. Its a skill.

Ok but who could take her? The best unarmed combatants in real life would probably be Navy Seals right? Unless you can think of anyone better. But her feats are vastly beyond what any of them can do, she's way faster and she even seems to be able to take more punishment and keep fighting (see Hawkeye fight and drop in CAWS) plus she's extremely skilled in martial arts. Even if without weapons, she is way more skilled than any normal person can possibly be in real life.

Way too slow

@bflynn316: She was losing to Hawkeye at first until she slammed his head into the railing. The best unarmed combatants would probably be UFC fighters, and most of them could probably beat her. She really isn't way faster than everyone. She is extremely agile and acrobatic but she's not gonna be too fast to hit or anything. I don't see what makes her so unbeatable. She's skilled but someone that is also trained well could beat her.

@brunnhilde: Not really. You asked a loaded question. I said anyone who is trained, nothing about gender.

She's seemed to fast to hit in the movies so far. Only Hawkeye and Bucky have managed to lay a glove on her if I remember correctly, and lots of people have tried. Look at her fight scene in the beginning of Winter Soldier and at the end of Iron Man 2 and see how easily she takes out large groups of soldiers. People in real life just aren't that skilled. I'd love to see a UFC fighter try to take on 7 armed guards at once, even if they do get her gadgets.

@bflynn316: She takes on seven guys at once but struggles with Hawkeye, who is actually trained. Anyone can beat fodder guys.

Hawkeye is also vastly more powerful than anyone in real life. He would actually be superhuman in real life, the way he makes shots at targets moving 100's mph based off their reflections in buildings while simultaneously giving Tony advice. But besides all that, I don't see why you think she was losing to him, I just rewatched the fight and it looks completely 50/50 up until she beats him. So I'd say she was winning.

Edit: and it's not fair to say "anyone" can beat fodder guys, if we're comparing those guards to real life security guards (which we should because we have no evidence that they aren't, in fact they seem superior to most guards in condition and skill) then virtually nobody on earth can beat seven of them. I can't think of anyone, be they UFC, Navy Seal, or whatever who can take on seven armed men in close quarters who have combat training and weapons.

She can probably just seduce anyone capable of defeating her.

@bflynn316: That would be superhuman perception, nothing to do with strength or speed.

And yeah she won the fight, I was just saying that she struggled and his strength was overwhelming her at one point. Hawkeye's strong considering how easily he shoots long distance arrows but there are definitely stronger and better trained people in real life, and they could beat Black Widow.

Also I looked at her fights in Iron Man 2 and at the beginning of the avengers. There were only three people in the avengers scene, one of them being an older man. And in Iron Man 2 she used gadgets on pretty much every guy. She is extremely athletic and skilled but not unbeatable by real people IMO.

She used gadgets on two guys, then at the end pepper spray on one of the guys she already took out with hand to hand. And the avengers scene is impressive because she was tied to a chair, and she still managed to take out three guys. Now I'm not arguing there are no people who are stronger than her in real life, because there clearly are. But there are no people in real life who are even close to as skilled as her and there are no people who have her combination of strength, speed, durability, and skill. Seriously name one person who you think has the abilities to take her on. You kinda just keep saying "there are definitely better trained people in real life" but I don't know of any.

And I strongly disagree with the idea of a UFC fighter taking her on. She's just too good. People in movies are almost always way more powerful than people in real life, because it would be boring to see the hero having to fight like a real life person. And they'd never be able to take on large groups like they do.

@bflynn316: Let's see, Brock Lesnar is tough, fast and strong. I don't see her beating him or throwing him around. Alistair Overeem too. She's never fought anyone of his size and strength. They would manhandle Hawkeye. And what about Ronda Rousey? She's fast and strong and an Olympic athlete. I don't think BW showed much in terms of physicals.

If you trained someone with her gadgets they could probably take out a small group of guys. Being tied to a chair and winning is cool but like I said, one was an older man and the other two were just idiots. She just threw some kicks while tied to the chair until she could break it. Nothing too special.

No one I can think of.

I don't remember much about her in the movies but maybe Tyson in his prime? He was pretty fast.

@bluejay4: Bruce never fought in any tournament and as I said before all his street fights are from word of mouth. He did do exhibitions but never ever fought anyone on record. This is a good read on Bruce Lee.

https://shootafairone.wordpress.com/2011/03/04/bruce-lee-%E2%80%93-myth-vs-fact/

No one. Probably some cult of assassins from Nanda Parbat if they exist, lol.

@noone301994: Wow

A Lot of people. She is a gear dependent character. Again, I sound crazy saying this, but viners don't understand that Real life humans have pretty good feats. Unless the combatant has substantiated above real human physicals (cap) or abilities , then they are susceptible to losing.

@noone301994 said:

She can probably just seduce anyone capable of defeating her.

This too!!!!!!

@noone301994: hohoho

@noone301994: You can't seduce chuck he is above petty human emotions.

A lot of people, real people don't stand there like lemmings while someone does a spinning kick, there's a reason people don't use moves like that.