#1 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Who has more Cosmics/Celestials? Marvel or DC?

#2 Posted by Quadraxis (308 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel by far.

#3 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

So in reality, if you take out like the Trinubial, And the One above all, Marvel has it.

#4 Posted by Buckshot (18678 posts) - - Show Bio

Why does Marvel have more cosmics "by far?" Just look at the GL corps, that's tens of thousands of cosmics right there. Look at the Daxamites, that's billions of Superman level characters. That's just two groups of DC's cosmics. Then there's 5D imps, Monitor(s), etc etc. Give it a rest EC.
Post Edited:2007-06-06 19:27:29

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#5 Posted by Quadraxis (308 posts) - - Show Bio

Yep there aren't many DC reality changers but look at all the reality warpers Marvel has. And I think he means the big reality warpers.
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#6 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't want. I hate DC. Their books are too cheesy and unrealistic

#7 Posted by Buckshot (18678 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"I don't want. I hate DC. Their books are too cheesy and unrealistic"

Is that a personal conclusion you've drawn after actually investing time to sit down and read a wide array of books from the company, or just an opinion you've formed by hearing other people say it and by looking at bits and pieces of the DCU? I mean, I know you don't actually read DC books because you've admitted as much yourself and your lack of knowledge about DC characters certainly backs it up, so I want to know why you think that.

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#8 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Who has more Cosmics/Celestials? Marvel or DC?"

DC

Buckshot says:

"Why does Marvel have more cosmics "by far?" Just look at the GL corps, that's tens of thousands of cosmics right there. Look at the Daxamites, that's billions of Superman level characters. That's just two groups of DC's cosmics. Then there's 5D imps, Monitor(s), etc etc. Give it a rest EC.
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thankyou, some sanity

Quadraxis says:

"Yep there aren't many DC reality changers but look at all the reality warpers Marvel has. And I think he means the big reality warpers.
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are you on crack, i can name over 20 major reality warpers from DC just off the top of my head without thinking about it.

Eternal Chaos says:

"I don't want. I hate DC. Their books are too cheesy and unrealistic"

and the hulk and silver surfer are pure realism

they're comics

#9 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

I've read a few books, I've read a few bios, and I watched the Justice League. I don't like DC because their characters are just like, so pumped up, and have been redone over and over that's its annoying. My other issue is the realism. Yeah, no doubt comics shouldn't be too realist, but when its too realistic, I lose interest. That whole pulling the earth business bothers me.

#10 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

But they don't take it too far.

#11 Posted by speed (550 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"I don't want. I hate DC. Their books are too cheesy and unrealistic"

u have issius dont u

u hate dc superman

dude what did they do to you if u dont like, then then dont read

#12 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't. But I hate when the Marvel and DC get compared because they have their strengths and weaknesses. Too many rediculous mismatches.

#13 Posted by speed (550 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"I don't. But I hate when the Marvel and DC get compared because they have their strengths and weaknesses. Too many rediculous mismatches."

okay never mind.

#14 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

So I guess you see my point Speed.

#15 Posted by Youngcircle (392 posts) - - Show Bio

DC cuz its gots mr elephantiesdf

#16 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio

If it is about numbers of Abstracts/Celestial level beings - Marvel by far. All Celestials + all Watchers + all Abstracts from all universes...

#17 Posted by lord_oraculous016 (9282 posts) - - Show Bio

MARVEL 
 
it has 
 

  • the Living Tribunal
  • the Phoenix Force
  • the Four Corners of the Cosmic Compass (Eternity, Death, Infinity and Oblivion)
  • the universal concepts (Master Order and Lord Chaos)
  • the balancing forces (Galactus and In-Betweener)
  • the other great powers of the universe (Stranger, Kronos, Sire Hate and Mistress Love)
  • the Seven Friendless
  • the entire race of Celestials
  • the entire race of Watchers
  • the Elder Gods
  • the Great Old Ones (aka: Many Angled-Ones)
  • the Goblin Force
  • Le Bete Noir
  • the First Fallen
  • the Elders of the Universe
  • the Godly Pantheons
  • the Hell-Lords
  • the Octessence
  • the Faltines
  • the Principalities
  • the Elder Spawns
  • the Heralds of Galactus
etc..
#18 Edited by Thepowercosmic (936 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel got this (Celestials) (Eternals) (Summers-Avatar of Phoenix)   (Titans from planet Titan) (Beyonders) ( Principalities)    (Guardians of the Galaxy) (Zom) (Heralds of Galactus) (Elder Gods) (Proemial Gods) (Olympians) (Asgardians) (Watchers) (The Obctessence) ( Elders of the Universe) (Nova Corp) ( Marvel Universe functions -concepts The Fulcrum The Living Tribunal   Eternity-Infinite Death-Oblivion Destiny Entropy  Galactus-Abraxas Lord Chaos-Master Oder Mistress love-Lord hate In Betweener  The Phoenix)   I think i got some of them  
  
And many more
 
 Thees are the one i fell the can be actually be call    Supreme Beings  
 
TOAA 
Beyonder 
Molecule Man 
Nebulos  
Protege  
TLT 
Zom 
 
yea Marvel got this


#19 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@lord_oraculous016 :
 
Le Bete Noir, the Faltines, The Principalities, The Elder Spawns?
#20 Posted by Outside_85 (10239 posts) - - Show Bio

Marvel...they are the only ones who have these sorts of things. 
 
Closest thing DC might have is the Oan Guardians. The rest are pretty much aliens with varying levels of power. 

#21 Posted by lord_oraculous016 (9282 posts) - - Show Bio
@czarny_samael said:
@lord_oraculous016 :  Le Bete Noir, the Faltines, The Principalities, The Elder Spawns?
well Le Bete Noir was a cosmic abstract said to possess power comparable to that of the Phoenix Force.. the PF fought it and defeated it, imprisoning it the the just newly formed Earth.. later it was known in many names such as Beelzebub, Mephistopheles and Satan..  
 
well the rest are more of mystical beings actually.. but the concepts of cosmic and mystic beings are separated by a very fine line.. 
#22 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17174 posts) - - Show Bio
@lord_oraculous016 said:
@czarny_samael said:
@lord_oraculous016 :  Le Bete Noir, the Faltines, The Principalities, The Elder Spawns?
well Le Bete Noir was a cosmic abstract said to possess power comparable to that of the Phoenix Force.. the PF fought it and defeated it, imprisoning it the the just newly formed Earth.. later it was known in many names such as Beelzebub, Mephistopheles and Satan..   well the rest are more of mystical beings actually.. but the concepts of cosmic and mystic beings are separated by a very fine line.. 
No, my point was that I've never heard of them.
 
This Bete noir is wizard who was an enemy of Merlyn and caught PF? 
 
Do You have any scans with them? When did they appeared?
#23 Posted by lord_oraculous016 (9282 posts) - - Show Bio
@czarny_samael said:
@lord_oraculous016 said:
@czarny_samael said:
@lord_oraculous016 :  Le Bete Noir, the Faltines, The Principalities, The Elder Spawns?
well Le Bete Noir was a cosmic abstract said to possess power comparable to that of the Phoenix Force.. the PF fought it and defeated it, imprisoning it the the just newly formed Earth.. later it was known in many names such as Beelzebub, Mephistopheles and Satan..   well the rest are more of mystical beings actually.. but the concepts of cosmic and mystic beings are separated by a very fine line.. 
No, my point was that I've never heard of them.  This Bete noir is wizard who was an enemy of Merlyn and caught PF?   Do You have any scans with them? When did they appeared?
actually you are referring to Necrom.. Le Bete Noir was a cosmic being with unknown origins.. it appeared in Gambit and Bishop: Sons of the Atom.. i don't have any scans myself.. here is the best i can find.. 
 
the Faltines is the race of being which includes Dormammu and Umar.. 
 
the Principalities are the mystical beings which are invoked by sorcerers (eg: the Seraphim) 
 
Elder Spawns are the spawns of the Elder Gods such as the likes of Agamotto, Sligutth, Damballah, the N'Garai and Atum..