Who can take the Endless?

normal battle rules apply. no TOAA. please try to write down how he/she/it would win. they get full rest after each battle, but the Endless are more serious as it goes on. Despair Desire Delirium(Delight version) Dream(most powerful version, in the dreaming) Destruction(bloodlust on) Destiny(bloodlust on) Death(bloodlust on) try to be reasonable, who can clear this?

Marvel Abstract and above them LT, MJJ, Beyonder, etc.....

From Dc, Lucifer, Michael, Presence, Elaine, GEB, Mxy, Batmite, etc..

i think they are above most of them, since they are the personification of an aspect. Like Desire could just desire their power and get it. Dream is as much reality itself as Dream, as it has been stated that they are dual aspects. Or who could fight pure destruction? Or fight their own destiny. Bloodlust Death is unkillable i think.

@kingkronos said:

Marvel Abstract and above them LT, MJJ, Beyonder, etc.....

From Dc, Lucifer, Michael, Presence, Elaine, GEB, Mxy, Batmite, etc..

Individual 5th dimension members would definitely be below the endless, the endless are empowered by the countless people of the multiverse believing in them as a concept including members of the 5th dimension.

@kingkronos said:

Marvel Abstract and above them LT, MJJ, Beyonder, etc.....

From Dc, Lucifer, Michael, Presence, Elaine, GEB, Mxy, Batmite, etc..

Marvel abstracts are far from equal to Endless, DC Death isn't mortal like Marvels, if one is capable of dying, which all Marvel Abstracts are, DC Death has power over them. Also 5th dimensional beings are below Endless, I'd even say Lucifer and Michael are too, they are more powerful, but they aren't endless.

Death didn't said she has no claim on him, just not yet. Even if she has no claim on him. Death can do anything she wants. She could kill the Furies if she wanted to, and even after she killed Morpheus she didn't had to bear the consequences.

@kingkronos said:

Marvel Abstract and above them LT, MJJ, Beyonder, etc.....

From Dc, Lucifer, Michael, Presence, Elaine, GEB, Mxy, Batmite, etc..

^^This^^

@Calildur: She doesn't say "not yet", she says "never said I did", acknowledging that she doesn't.

Even so, she bound by no rules at all. She can give someone immortality, then she can take it as well.

@Dark_Fang said:

@kingkronos said:

Marvel Abstract and above them LT, MJJ, Beyonder, etc.....

From Dc, Lucifer, Michael, Presence, Elaine, GEB, Mxy, Batmite, etc..

^^This^^

@Calildur: She doesn't say "not yet", she says "never said I did", acknowledging that she doesn't.

I would like to add HOTU and IG Thanos. Odin and skyfathers would also be able to hamper them seriously.

@whydama said:

@Dark_Fang said:

@kingkronos said:

Marvel Abstract and above them LT, MJJ, Beyonder, etc.....

From Dc, Lucifer, Michael, Presence, Elaine, GEB, Mxy, Batmite, etc..

^^This^^

@Calildur: She doesn't say "not yet", she says "never said I did", acknowledging that she doesn't.

I would like to add HOTU and IG Thanos. Odin and skyfathers would also be able to hamper them seriously.

I agree wth everything except Odin and Skyfathers cause...y'know,,,they die

it stated that she's the first to appear in the universe, and the last one. most of the deitys afraid of her. even Lucifer Morningstar. At hes peak even Dream could beat Lucifer in a very hard fight. also want to point out that Delight said to know everything even such secrets that Destiny himself doesn't know. their battle feats are hard to tell since they never encountered that many battle. maybe the only reality warper Dream fought was dr Dee, but he could only warp reality with Dreams own gem. But he stated that it nearly killed him, however he was at his weakest than.

@Jayfournines said:

@whydama said:

@Dark_Fang said:

@kingkronos said:

Marvel Abstract and above them LT, MJJ, Beyonder, etc.....

From Dc, Lucifer, Michael, Presence, Elaine, GEB, Mxy, Batmite, etc..

^^This^^

@Calildur: She doesn't say "not yet", she says "never said I did", acknowledging that she doesn't.

I would like to add HOTU and IG Thanos. Odin and skyfathers would also be able to hamper them seriously.

I agree wth everything except Odin and Skyfathers cause...y'know,,,they die

They are all powerfull but not even close to the lvl of endless or any high lvl Dc character really.

@OmegaDynasty said:

@ComocYahweh said:

@kingkronos said:

Marvel Abstract and above them LT, MJJ, Beyonder, etc.....

From Dc, Lucifer, Michael, Presence, Elaine, GEB, Mxy, Batmite, etc..

Marvel abstracts are far from equal to Endless, DC Death isn't mortal like Marvels, if one is capable of dying, which all Marvel Abstracts are, DC Death has power over them. Also 5th dimensional beings are below Endless, I'd even say Lucifer and Michael are too, they are more powerful, but they aren't endless.

The only one that seemed to have any power over Lucifer and Michael was Destiny.
This angered Lucifer, which he tried to destroy his book.








Death has no claim on Lucifer

As far as feats go Michael and Lucifers are superior, but they also act more human like with their emotions, the endless however are always so calm, like they have no worry in the world, possibly because they know nothing can stop them.

@Calildur said:

At hes peak even Dream could beat Lucifer in a very hard fight.

Nope, Dream's terrified of Lucifer.

but he does had a chance, and that was in Lucifers own realm, while this in Dreams realm. I bet even Lucifer dreams.