#1 Edited by FrozenPhoenix (1722 posts) - - Show Bio

We know the man of steel is a powerhouse in all his incarnations, but has he ever shown any a real battling abilities outside of his superpunches/freeze breath/laser beams, etc.?

Who could he beat without the yellow sun boost?

#2 Edited by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman have shown that he can apply science to his fighting capability. He also improvised a lot.

Other than that, he possessed decent fighting skill learnt from Batman, Mongul and Wonder Woman.

Aside, he have displayed knowledge in Torquasm-Rao and Torquasm-Vo.

He can probably beat most real-life martial artists, but not sure which street levelers he can beat.

#3 Edited by nickzambuto (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman with Superman's powers apparently.

#4 Posted by Xeno_Seeker (417 posts) - - Show Bio

Jimmy Olsen.

#5 Posted by ZombieMowlcher (677 posts) - - Show Bio

Kenshiro.

#6 Posted by nickzambuto (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

He can probably beat most real-life martial artists, but not sure which street levelers he can beat.

I disagree with that. As far as I know, the stretch of Superman's fighting capabilities are using pressure points a few times. Not umimpressive, but he's never displayed any form or technique. Maybe he'd be a decent UFC fighter or something, but nothing top notch.

#7 Posted by Lady_Liberty (8385 posts) - - Show Bio

Clark gets into a fight with someone almost every day of his life, he has training from some of the best martial artists in his universe, he's a master of alien martial arts and he is a big, strong guy. He can beat a lot of people. I'd give him fair odds against anyone who isn't a martial arts specialist.

#8 Posted by Ratatat (697 posts) - - Show Bio

wow you must not know anything about superman if you think he has no combat knowledge....

#9 Posted by Immortal777 (7732 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman a pretty good fighter he's probably beat anyone who isn't some master martial artist and any real world human.

#10 Posted by DrunkVader (794 posts) - - Show Bio
#11 Posted by FrozenPhoenix (1722 posts) - - Show Bio

@ratatat said:

wow you must not know anything about superman if you think he has no combat knowledge....

Where in the OP did I say anything of the sort?

#12 Posted by Ratatat (697 posts) - - Show Bio

@ratatat said:

wow you must not know anything about superman if you think he has no combat knowledge....

Where in the OP did I say anything of the sort?

"We know the man of steel is a powerhouse in all his incarnations, but has he ever shown any a real battling abilities outside of his superpunches/freeze breath/laser beams, etc.?" you said it in the very first sentence of this thread.....

#13 Posted by FrozenPhoenix (1722 posts) - - Show Bio

@ratatat: I didn't say anything. Pay attention, it was just the question.

#14 Edited by TifaLockhart (14119 posts) - - Show Bio

Kobra.

#15 Edited by Ratatat (697 posts) - - Show Bio

@ratatat: I didn't say anything. Pay attention, it was just the question.

you did but whatever....

#16 Posted by TifaLockhart (14119 posts) - - Show Bio

Read "JLA: Foreign Bodies."

#17 Edited by jashro44 (23801 posts) - - Show Bio

@angryhulks said:

He can probably beat most real-life martial artists, but not sure which street levelers he can beat.

I disagree with that. As far as I know, the stretch of Superman's fighting capabilities are using pressure points a few times. Not umimpressive, but he's never displayed any form or technique. Maybe he'd be a decent UFC fighter or something, but nothing top notch.

There's also this:

In addition to pressure points superman is also trained in boxing from wildcat.

#18 Posted by nickzambuto (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@angryhulks said:

He can probably beat most real-life martial artists, but not sure which street levelers he can beat.

I disagree with that. As far as I know, the stretch of Superman's fighting capabilities are using pressure points a few times. Not umimpressive, but he's never displayed any form or technique. Maybe he'd be a decent UFC fighter or something, but nothing top notch.

There's also this:

In addition to pressure points superman is also trained in boxing from wildcat.

He's depowered there right? Wow, it's actually super impressive how he blocked bullets with a trash lid and then disarmed the shooter with it. I retract my statement, he'd probably be champ-material in real world pro fighting.

#19 Edited by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

@jashro44 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@angryhulks said:

He can probably beat most real-life martial artists, but not sure which street levelers he can beat.

I disagree with that. As far as I know, the stretch of Superman's fighting capabilities are using pressure points a few times. Not umimpressive, but he's never displayed any form or technique. Maybe he'd be a decent UFC fighter or something, but nothing top notch.

There's also this:

In addition to pressure points superman is also trained in boxing from wildcat.

He's depowered there right? Wow, it's actually super impressive how he blocked bullets with a trash lid and then disarmed the shooter with it. I retract my statement, he'd probably be champ-material in real world pro fighting.

I'd like to know where he found a trash can lid that can stop bullets. PIS...it's not just for characters anymore...

#20 Posted by TifaLockhart (14119 posts) - - Show Bio

LOL

#21 Posted by AngryHulks (3001 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

@jashro44 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@angryhulks said:

He can probably beat most real-life martial artists, but not sure which street levelers he can beat.

I disagree with that. As far as I know, the stretch of Superman's fighting capabilities are using pressure points a few times. Not umimpressive, but he's never displayed any form or technique. Maybe he'd be a decent UFC fighter or something, but nothing top notch.

There's also this:

In addition to pressure points superman is also trained in boxing from wildcat.

He's depowered there right? Wow, it's actually super impressive how he blocked bullets with a trash lid and then disarmed the shooter with it. I retract my statement, he'd probably be champ-material in real world pro fighting.

I'd like to know where he found a trash can lid that can stop bullets. PIS...it's not just for characters anymore...

It's common for fiction to use anything made out of steel as a bulletproof device. Countless of films have shown that a cooking pan can stop bullets.

#22 Edited by TifaLockhart (14119 posts) - - Show Bio

Fictional bullets suck. I hate it.

#23 Posted by nickzambuto (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

@jashro44 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@angryhulks said:

He can probably beat most real-life martial artists, but not sure which street levelers he can beat.

I disagree with that. As far as I know, the stretch of Superman's fighting capabilities are using pressure points a few times. Not umimpressive, but he's never displayed any form or technique. Maybe he'd be a decent UFC fighter or something, but nothing top notch.

There's also this:

In addition to pressure points superman is also trained in boxing from wildcat.

He's depowered there right? Wow, it's actually super impressive how he blocked bullets with a trash lid and then disarmed the shooter with it. I retract my statement, he'd probably be champ-material in real world pro fighting.

I'd like to know where he found a trash can lid that can stop bullets. PIS...it's not just for characters anymore...

I just looked the issue up. Apparently the trashlid somehow absorbed Superman's powers thanks to some weird universal anomaly. That's why he's carrying it around in the first place. Apparently the whole thing was a parody of Captain America in that Superman was performing unbelievably crazy feats with the lid, but he actually had an excuse (unlike Steve).

#24 Edited by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

@shawnbaby said:

@nickzambuto said:

@jashro44 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@angryhulks said:

He can probably beat most real-life martial artists, but not sure which street levelers he can beat.

I disagree with that. As far as I know, the stretch of Superman's fighting capabilities are using pressure points a few times. Not umimpressive, but he's never displayed any form or technique. Maybe he'd be a decent UFC fighter or something, but nothing top notch.

There's also this:

In addition to pressure points superman is also trained in boxing from wildcat.

He's depowered there right? Wow, it's actually super impressive how he blocked bullets with a trash lid and then disarmed the shooter with it. I retract my statement, he'd probably be champ-material in real world pro fighting.

I'd like to know where he found a trash can lid that can stop bullets. PIS...it's not just for characters anymore...

It's common for fiction to use anything made out of steel as a bulletproof device. Countless of films have shown that a cooking pan can stop bullets.

Cooking Pans are made out of Cast Iron...and most trash can lids like that are made out of aluminium...not steel.

@shawnbaby said:

@nickzambuto said:

@jashro44 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@angryhulks said:

He can probably beat most real-life martial artists, but not sure which street levelers he can beat.

I disagree with that. As far as I know, the stretch of Superman's fighting capabilities are using pressure points a few times. Not umimpressive, but he's never displayed any form or technique. Maybe he'd be a decent UFC fighter or something, but nothing top notch.

There's also this:

In addition to pressure points superman is also trained in boxing from wildcat.

He's depowered there right? Wow, it's actually super impressive how he blocked bullets with a trash lid and then disarmed the shooter with it. I retract my statement, he'd probably be champ-material in real world pro fighting.

I'd like to know where he found a trash can lid that can stop bullets. PIS...it's not just for characters anymore...

I just looked the issue up. Apparently the trashlid somehow absorbed Superman's powers thanks to some weird universal anomaly. That's why he's carrying it around in the first place. Apparently the whole thing was a parody of Captain America in that Superman was performing unbelievably crazy feats with the lid, but he actually had an excuse (unlike Steve).

I do believe you just made that up...especially since he's not carrying it around with him...he grabs it off the trash can in the second panel.

#25 Posted by jackofspades (1860 posts) - - Show Bio

AUNT MAYWELL MAYBE NOT

#26 Posted by LabrecheNation (60 posts) - - Show Bio

Me?

#27 Posted by nickzambuto (14456 posts) - - Show Bio

@shawnbaby said:

@nickzambuto said:

@jashro44 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@angryhulks said:

He can probably beat most real-life martial artists, but not sure which street levelers he can beat.

I disagree with that. As far as I know, the stretch of Superman's fighting capabilities are using pressure points a few times. Not umimpressive, but he's never displayed any form or technique. Maybe he'd be a decent UFC fighter or something, but nothing top notch.

There's also this:

In addition to pressure points superman is also trained in boxing from wildcat.

He's depowered there right? Wow, it's actually super impressive how he blocked bullets with a trash lid and then disarmed the shooter with it. I retract my statement, he'd probably be champ-material in real world pro fighting.

I'd like to know where he found a trash can lid that can stop bullets. PIS...it's not just for characters anymore...

I just looked the issue up. Apparently the trashlid somehow absorbed Superman's powers thanks to some weird universal anomaly. That's why he's carrying it around in the first place. Apparently the whole thing was a parody of Captain America in that Superman was performing unbelievably crazy feats with the lid, but he actually had an excuse (unlike Steve).

I do believe you just made that up...especially since he's not carrying it around with him...he grabs it off the trash can in the second panel.

Yup, and how many times has Cap's shield just conveniently appeared in his hands when it was missing in the previous panel?

#28 Posted by LabrecheNation (60 posts) - - Show Bio

Louis Cyr(Cyprien-Noé Cyr)

Some of his records have never been Beated

Nationality:Québécer/French Canadian

Louis Cyr,Wife(Mélina Cyr) and Daughter(Émiliana Cyr)

His Statue

Trailer:Here

Antoine Bertrand as Louis Cyr

Louis Cyr would win In an bench Press ;) (Since superman is depowered).

Wikipedia:His recorded feats, including lifting 500 pounds (227 kg) with three fingers and carrying 4,337 pounds (1,967 kg) on his back, show Cyr to be, according to former International Federation of BodyBuilding & Fitness chairman Ben Weider, the strongest man ever to have lived.

Louis resisted the pull of four draught horses (two in each hand) as grooms stood cracking their whips to get the horses to pull harder

(In this picture there's only 2horses,i couldnt find an pic with him holding the 4)

#29 Posted by OverLordArhas (7793 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman

#30 Edited by Strongarm (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

Kick ass

Superman has been taught by batman, muhammad ali and he knows kryptonian martial arts T-vo/T-rao. Pressure point combat is nothing new, his brain is also good.

I'd give him fair odds against anyone who isn't a martial arts specialist.

I'd actually give him odds against those who are [in comic standards at least], writers have been trying to nerf him in terms of powers albeit of the many failures. The only thing that they successfully nerf is his competence, sure some street scrubber hero can tango with some villain with rays. Superman has fought stronger with less.