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#1 Edited by Thanofleeze (3366 posts) - - Show Bio

#2 Posted by OverLordArhas (7793 posts) - - Show Bio

I will put my money on Tyrant because I do not know who the other guys are.

#4 Posted by MorganFreeman (446 posts) - - Show Bio

Either Tyrant or Larfleeze depending on which versions. If it's everyone at their strongest then probably Tyrant since he was really close to Galactus.

#5 Posted by Sparnage (302 posts) - - Show Bio

Can someone identify these guys? They all look pretty beastly to me and the only ones I recognize are Darkseid / Surfer (who's the guy in the back) / some sort of Orange lantern / Lobo

#6 Posted by Thanofleeze (3366 posts) - - Show Bio

@sparnage: In left to right order:

  • Despero
  • Darkseid
  • Death Seed Sentry
  • Fernus
  • Silver Surfer
  • Larfleeze
  • Lobo
  • Gorr
  • Tyrant
#7 Posted by Lateralus (1783 posts) - - Show Bio

The dude next to Lobo is Gorr the God Butcher

#8 Posted by Sparnage (302 posts) - - Show Bio

@thanofleeze: thanks
that said inexperienced me says Fernus

#9 Edited by BeaconofStrength (7330 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Gorr may be able to handle him the fastest, but I could be wrong.

#10 Edited by Thanofleeze (3366 posts) - - Show Bio

So even though Darkseid is the one who know the most about Supe's weaknesses, no one has voted for him lol.

#11 Posted by ssj_god (8131 posts) - - Show Bio

gorr cuts and kills uncutable and immortals.. end of the story (-_-)

#12 Edited by kgb725 (6440 posts) - - Show Bio

SS could just take his powers then send a bladt to him

#13 Posted by AllStarSuperman (23221 posts) - - Show Bio

Helspont

#14 Edited by Thanofleeze (3366 posts) - - Show Bio
#15 Edited by Jeronimo (740 posts) - - Show Bio

Tyrant.

#16 Posted by Experio (17615 posts) - - Show Bio

Tyrant

#17 Posted by Chaos Prime (10895 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably Tyrant

#18 Posted by DarthAznable (8809 posts) - - Show Bio

Gorr might have a hard time. Is he even close to being as fast? Then again Mongul isn't that fast and beat pre52 Supes.

#19 Posted by dondave (38979 posts) - - Show Bio

Fernus or Despero make him kill himself

#20 Edited by GhostRavage (9567 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: You think Fernus or Despero could kill Tyrant? EDIT! I forgot the OP.

#21 Posted by ssj_god (8131 posts) - - Show Bio

Gorr might have a hard time. Is he even close to being as fast? Then again Mongul isn't that fast and beat pre52 Supes.

gorr doesn't need speed .. if he's even half fast than he was against thor.. he'll still slaughter supes... superman can't hurt gorr thor was only able to hurt him due to his magic lightning.. and.. gorr is basically a shadow type being.. supes have only chance of surviving by running from him.. then again.. i don't know how much would that work.. he even seeks out persons from different timeline :D

#22 Edited by DarthAznable (8809 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god said:

@darthaznable said:

Gorr might have a hard time. Is he even close to being as fast? Then again Mongul isn't that fast and beat pre52 Supes.

gorr doesn't need speed .. if he's even half fast than he was against thor.. he'll still slaughter supes... superman can't hurt gorr thor was only able to hurt him due to his magic lightning.. and.. gorr is basically a shadow type being.. supes have only chance of surviving by running from him.. then again.. i don't know how much would that work.. he even seeks out persons from different timeline :D

I didn't say Gorr would lose. Just have an annoying time with Supes speed. I know Gorr would stomp but I wasn't sure with the amount of difficulty.

#23 Posted by ssj_god (8131 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god said:

@darthaznable said:

Gorr might have a hard time. Is he even close to being as fast? Then again Mongul isn't that fast and beat pre52 Supes.

gorr doesn't need speed .. if he's even half fast than he was against thor.. he'll still slaughter supes... superman can't hurt gorr thor was only able to hurt him due to his magic lightning.. and.. gorr is basically a shadow type being.. supes have only chance of surviving by running from him.. then again.. i don't know how much would that work.. he even seeks out persons from different timeline :D

I didn't say Gorr would lose. Just have an annoying time with Supes speed. I know Gorr would stomp but I wasn't sure with the amount of difficulty.

well yeah.. if superman runs away from gorr then i think he might survive more time.. but knowing superman... i don't think that'll be the case.

#24 Posted by fiodestromus (1215 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say Gorr

But TBH I'm not that well-versed on some of the people in the OP(Despero other than his Tp reputation and Fernus)

#25 Posted by highaccuser (9061 posts) - - Show Bio

So even though Darkseid is the one who know the most about Supe's weaknesses, no one has voted for him lol.

Darkseid has lost to supes several times. It's unlikely he can kill him at all.

#26 Edited by Jayc1324 (14071 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: Not the true Darkseid. Its been suggested that the Darkseids that showed up after PC Darkseid were just avatars of him. PC Darkseid absolutely destroyed superman and can easily beat him and new 52 Darkseid can beat superman too.

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#27 Posted by ssj_god (8131 posts) - - Show Bio

@thanofleeze said:

So even though Darkseid is the one who know the most about Supe's weaknesses, no one has voted for him lol.

Darkseid has lost to supes several times. It's unlikely he can kill him at all.

that was jobberseid .. not darkseid (-_-)

darkseid is a genuine JLA team buster.

#28 Posted by highaccuser (9061 posts) - - Show Bio

@ssj_god said:

@highaccuser said:

@thanofleeze said:

So even though Darkseid is the one who know the most about Supe's weaknesses, no one has voted for him lol.

Darkseid has lost to supes several times. It's unlikely he can kill him at all.

that was jobberseid .. not darkseid (-_-)

darkseid is a genuine JLA team buster.

Is it jobbing if it's his consistent post-crisis power level? I've never seen pre-new 52 Darkseid team bust before, certainly not the JLA.

@jayc1324 said:

@highaccuser: Not the true Darkseid. Its been suggested that the Darkseids that showed up after PC Darkseid were just avatars of him. PC Darkseid absolutely destroyed superman and can easily beat him and new 52 Darkseid can beat superman too.

No...it hasn't. People say that all the time but it's never been alluded to. Yes once Darksid said he was just an avatar, but I don't think that particular DS did anything notable, plus I think he was from the future.

PC DS never actually fought superman. He fought superboy, and I'm pretty sure he won by BFR.

#29 Posted by Cgoodness (6690 posts) - - Show Bio

Like in a race to kill first? I'd put money on SS, he's the fastest one and can easily just drain him then one shot him

#30 Posted by Jayc1324 (14071 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: it actually has... If you know anything about PC Darkseid you would know he would easily beat Superman. Easily. Superman even said he was stronger than him. Darkseid was created to be better than superman. And new 52 darkseid can take superman too.

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#31 Posted by highaccuser (9061 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

@highaccuser: it actually has... If you know anything about PC Darkseid you would know he would easily beat Superman. Easily. Superman even said he was stronger than him. Darkseid was created to be better than superman. And new 52 darkseid can take superman too.

Prove it. I've never seen anything solid other than speculation.

I know about him, and I also know he never fought a full power superman. Scans please. Do prove me wrong.

Why are we even talking about this? This isn't new 52 or post-crisis.

#32 Posted by Jayc1324 (14071 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: I never said he fought superman, and we are talking about this because you said Darkseid can't kill Superman, which isn't true. Darkseid really isn't on Superman's level, he's above. That's what he was created for, and he laughs off Superman.

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#33 Posted by highaccuser (9061 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

@highaccuser: I never said he fought superman, and we are talking about this because you said Darkseid can't kill Superman, which isn't true. Darkseid really isn't on Superman's level, he's above. That's what he was created for, and he laughs off Superman.

He was created before the crisis. Then he would've surpassed superman, post-crisis not so much. He could concievebly kill supes as they are equals, but don't put him on some Thanos-level pedistal he hasn't earned a place on.

@killemall has made the argument before. He can do it better than I.

#34 Posted by afueikawa (1092 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is Batman not here?

:-)

#35 Posted by XiiX (9514 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Fernus or Despero make him kill himself

#36 Posted by Jayc1324 (14071 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: some versions of Darkseid are Thanos level actually. And like I said post crisis were avatars. PC Darkseid is way above supes though and so is new 52 Darkseid.

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#37 Posted by TheAmazingImmortalMan (4109 posts) - - Show Bio

I would put my money on Silver Surfer

#38 Posted by highaccuser (9061 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

@highaccuser: some versions of Darkseid are Thanos level actually. And like I said post crisis were avatars. PC Darkseid is way above supes though and so is new 52 Darkseid.

You haven't given me evidence pos-crisis versions are avatars. I say they're the real things.

#39 Edited by ElmoHump (1437 posts) - - Show Bio

New 52 Darkseid pawns.

#40 Posted by Jayc1324 (14071 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: I already said it has been suggested they were avatars. What comics suggest > what you say.

And new 52 Darkseid still beats superman

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#41 Posted by highaccuser (9061 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

@highaccuser: I already said it has been suggested they were avatars. What comics suggest > what you say.

And new 52 Darkseid still beats superman

And I'm asking you where it's been suggested they were avatars.

#42 Posted by Jayc1324 (14071 posts) - - Show Bio
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#43 Posted by unBREAKable_Fs4 (2432 posts) - - Show Bio

Tyrant

#44 Edited by Jayc1324 (14071 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/37889/1607002-fb977017jpgorig9uj.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/37889/1607010-f9cca559jpgorig2ra.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3831/darkseidlostqr4.jpg

Here are multiple times it is suggested and there are more if you wish

PC Darkseid and new 52 darkseid was the only real Darkseid IMO. Everything else was just avatars

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#45 Posted by Thanofleeze (3366 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324: In all fairness... he does call himself "ominpotent", which we all know is a lie. (first scan)

#46 Posted by highaccuser (9061 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

@highaccuser: http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/37889/1607002-fb977017jpgorig9uj.jpg

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/37889/1607010-f9cca559jpgorig2ra.jpg

http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3831/darkseidlostqr4.jpg

Here are multiple times it is suggested and there are more if you wish

PC Darkseid and new 52 darkseid was the only real Darkseid IMO. Everything else was just avatars

For one thing in the third scan there's not a thing about avatars.

Also, Dakrseid can use avatars all he wants, unless those avatars actually do something they might as well be holograms. You need to prove the things superman beat were avatars.

Also, new 52 darkseid wasn't that impressive. WW(who isn't nearly her pre-new 52 self) took out his eye, and a weakened superman matched him in strength.

#47 Edited by Jayc1324 (14071 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: The point is not what the avatars can do but that Darkseid appearances after PC Darkseid were only avatars. It was never outright stated but like i said it was suggested since there are multiple instances of him using less powerful avatars to do things. And since his appearances were consistently weaker post crisis it makes sense he consistently used avatars and that his true form still had the power of PC Darkseid.

His eye getting hurt was silly. He has never showed durability that low, even from avatars. He still took on the JL by himself and of course superman had to come in and save the day...

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#48 Posted by Jayc1324 (14071 posts) - - Show Bio

@thanofleeze: Yeah Darkseid is full of himself, even his avatars are.

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#49 Posted by highaccuser (9061 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

@highaccuser: The point is not what the avatars can do but that Darkseid appearances after PC Darkseid were only avatars. It was never outright stated but like i said it was suggested since there are multiple instances of him using less powerful avatars to do things. And since his appearances were consistently weaker post crisis it makes sense he consistently used avatars and that his true form still had the power of PC Darkseid.

His eye getting hurt was silly. He has never showed durability that low, even from avatars. He still took on the JL by himself and of course superman had to come in and save the day...

It's been stated he uses avatars, but not that every post-crisis appearence was of an avatar. A few avatars popping up does not prove he's at PC power level just lurking inactive. I don't care if he has avatars, I care that people think everytime he loses it's an avatar.

The JLA he took on were inexpirienced at not anywhere near pre-new 52 levels. Superman "saving the day" should have no meaning as he certainly isn't the most powerful on that particular assemblage. New 52 DS is overhyped.

#50 Edited by New_World_Order (13516 posts) - - Show Bio

Tyrant.