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#1 Edited by AmazingScrewOnHead (715 posts) - - Show Bio

1. what street levelers can kill edward cullen

2.What Vampires or vampire hunters etc can kill him

#2 Posted by mk111 (3141 posts) - - Show Bio

Dunno for question 1.....maybe Punisher?

For question 2....Van Helsing and Blade.

#3 Posted by Frocharocha (2376 posts) - - Show Bio

Edward Elric turns him into rock.

#4 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18370 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk

Thor

Hercules

#5 Edited by Rumble Man (11118 posts) - - Show Bio

Dio Brando

Spiderman

#6 Posted by Frocharocha (2376 posts) - - Show Bio

@TheAcidSkull said:

Hulk

Thor

Hercules

Are them street levelers? More like continent levelers lol.

#7 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

Blade

#8 Posted by JonSmith (4008 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-man's an ambiguous street leveler who should be able to kill Edward.

As are Luke Cage and Iron Fist.

#9 Posted by Nefarious (21964 posts) - - Show Bio
#10 Posted by dondave (38817 posts) - - Show Bio

@mk111 said:

Dunno for question 1.....maybe Punisher?

For question 2....Van Helsing and Blade.

No Way in Hell

#11 Posted by reikai (4571 posts) - - Show Bio

This is the only answer that matters.
  

#12 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18370 posts) - - Show Bio

@Frocharocha said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

Hulk

Thor

Hercules

Are them street levelers? More like continent levelers lol.

MY HATE FOR EDWARD KNOWS NO BOUND!

#13 Edited by laflux (17551 posts) - - Show Bio

@AmazingScrewOnHead said:

1. what street levelers can kill edward cullen

2.What Vampires or vampire hunters etc can kill him

Still Hating on Edward ;-D

La Magra (Blade One ).

Seras Victoria.

Newborn Bella.

Alcuard.

Any member of the Voturi.

Buffy with her Golden Age Superman Powers.

Dracula (Bram Stoker version)

Spider-Man

Kaine

Venom (Probably even Angelo)

Wolverine

Daken

X-23

Black Tarantula

Ult Spider-Man

Luke Cage

Iron Fist

Ben Rielly

Shantra

Mister Negative

Gorgon

Deathstroke

Timber Wolf

Blink

AOA Nightcrawler

Scorpion

Rhino

Non Jobbing Sabretooth

Van Helsing as Werewolf

Wolfman

Werewolf By Night

Beast

Probably think of more later

Waits for someone to say Movie Blade
#14 Edited by laflux (17551 posts) - - Show Bio

@Nefarious said:

Wildstorm Middy isn't Street Level.

@Stronger said:

Blade

616 No

1610 possibly

Movie Version loses badly

@TheAcidSkull said:

Hulk

Thor

Hercules

Jeez man he said street level, unless you want to make Hercules Depowered :P

#15 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - - Show Bio

@mk111 said:

Punisher

Dies horribly.

#16 Edited by Veitha (3362 posts) - - Show Bio

I can kill Edward Cullen... and half Marvel universe, too.

#17 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22794 posts) - - Show Bio

Abraham Lincoln

#18 Posted by clemj (817 posts) - - Show Bio

blade

#19 Posted by TheAcidSkull (18370 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@TheAcidSkull said:

Hulk

Thor

Hercules

Jeez man he said street level, unless you want to make Hercules Depowered :P

i just want edward dead :P

#20 Posted by Frocharocha (2376 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman said:

Abraham Lincoln

LMAO!

#21 Posted by laflux (17551 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman said:

Abraham Lincoln

dies.

#22 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22794 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Abraham Lincoln

dies.

False he chops edwards head off with an axe

#23 Posted by Frocharocha (2376 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman said:

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Abraham Lincoln

dies.

False he chops edwards head off with an axe

Made of silver.

#24 Edited by laflux (17551 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman said:

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Abraham Lincoln

dies.

False he chops edwards head off with an axe

No, Edward Speed-Blitzes him before he thinks of swinging his ax.

The ax may not even harm him.

@Frocharocha said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Abraham Lincoln

dies.

False he chops edwards head off with an axe

Made of silver.

Which doesn't affect twilight vampires...........

#25 Posted by Frocharocha (2376 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Abraham Lincoln

dies.

False he chops edwards head off with an axe

No, Edward Speed-Blitzes him before he thinks of swinging his ax.

The ax may not even harm him.

That doesn't matter, God doesn't like Cullen and his strange sexual behaviors.

#26 Posted by laflux (17551 posts) - - Show Bio

@Frocharocha said:

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Abraham Lincoln

dies.

False he chops edwards head off with an axe

No, Edward Speed-Blitzes him before he thinks of swinging his ax.

The ax may not even harm him.

That doesn't matter, God doesn't like Cullen and his strange sexual behaviors.

If I may ask, what is strange about Edward's sexual behavior.

#27 Posted by Frocharocha (2376 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@Frocharocha said:

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Abraham Lincoln

dies.

False he chops edwards head off with an axe

No, Edward Speed-Blitzes him before he thinks of swinging his ax.

The ax may not even harm him.

That doesn't matter, God doesn't like Cullen and his strange sexual behaviors.

If I may ask, what is strange about Edward's sexual behavior.

I'm just joking. Btw, didn't Lincoln fought against super human vampires?

#28 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman

#29 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22794 posts) - - Show Bio

@Frocharocha said:

@laflux said:

@Frocharocha said:

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Abraham Lincoln

dies.

False he chops edwards head off with an axe

No, Edward Speed-Blitzes him before he thinks of swinging his ax.

The ax may not even harm him.

That doesn't matter, God doesn't like Cullen and his strange sexual behaviors.

If I may ask, what is strange about Edward's sexual behavior.

I'm just joking. Btw, didn't Lincoln fought against super human vampires?

Yup in the movie Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter

#30 Posted by Frocharocha (2376 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman said:

@Frocharocha said:

@laflux said:

@Frocharocha said:

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

@laflux said:

@AllStarSuperman said:

Abraham Lincoln

dies.

False he chops edwards head off with an axe

No, Edward Speed-Blitzes him before he thinks of swinging his ax.

The ax may not even harm him.

That doesn't matter, God doesn't like Cullen and his strange sexual behaviors.

If I may ask, what is strange about Edward's sexual behavior.

I'm just joking. Btw, didn't Lincoln fought against super human vampires?

Yup in the movie Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter

So that's why i think he can take Cullen with some trouble. The vampire master in the movie was way stronger than casual vampires; Super reflexes, Super strength, super speed etc.

#31 Posted by BlackWind (7056 posts) - - Show Bio

Any supersonic+ character with good pyrokinesis.

#32 Posted by SSJ4Hulk (194 posts) - - Show Bio

I think PR Beyonder can kill edward ..but i m not sure 100 %,beyonder may need help from TOAA.

Seriously now,anyone who's not gay can kill him.

#33 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22794 posts) - - Show Bio

@SSJ4Hulk: so Alan Scott and midnighter can't win?

#34 Posted by JackKnight (2969 posts) - - Show Bio

#35 Posted by spartan92 (2520 posts) - - Show Bio

Not sunlight.

#36 Posted by Strider92 (16771 posts) - - Show Bio

Reality!

#37 Posted by Bo88gdan (4522 posts) - - Show Bio

D hunter

#38 Posted by SSJ4Hulk (194 posts) - - Show Bio

@AllStarSuperman: Nope Edward will show them a video with kristen stewart trying to act adn they will die!

#39 Posted by AllStarSuperman (22794 posts) - - Show Bio

@SSJ4Hulk said:

@AllStarSuperman: Nope Edward will show them a video with kristen stewart trying to act adn they will die!

You do have a point there

#40 Posted by laflux (17551 posts) - - Show Bio

Just a preventative measure to anyone who says movie blade.

@laflux:

1.unbelievable that you are comparing blades lack luster feats against an immortal vampire as an advantage for ed.

2.you say he was dumbfounded. have you ever considered that he was just shocked by by his increase in speed, power, and healing compared to regular vampires?

3.he cut off decons hand and body, he tagged him. also if we are going by visual effects decons looks WAY faster.

4.reflex's? did you not just see what he did before cutting his hand off? also he is a martial arts practitioner what fighting skills does ed have besides grabbing people? just because he doesnt run fast does not mean he has not reflex's, he is obviously superhuman with superhuman capabilities.

5.BTW decon would also stomp ed into oblivion, you might want to find some better feats for ed.

can you prove using movie scenes bullets wouldnt work? his sword?

1. They weren't lackluster. Blade tried to go up Against Deacon Frost in H2H and swordplay and failed, not because Deacon was more skilled, hence why he tagged him, but because Deacon was more powerful. He was messing around, toying with Blade, for long enough for him to use the Plot device (EDTA) on him.

2.That may be the case. However the fact remains that no-one else in Blade showed that type of speed, so we can't know whether he was shocked. Considering he was unable to avoid having his kneecaps being broken by a shotgun in Blade 2 at point blank, I'd say no.

3. Lol what? Blade sliced Deacon and tagged him, when Deacon was not using his full speed. Hence why I said skip to 1.22. When he did, Blade just stood their shocked- and didn't tag him while he was blitzing. And your saying this like it would matter whether Blade was just shocked or literally couldn't react (I personally prefer the latter- since Blade dealt with Reapers in Blade 2 and Drake in Blade 3, and didn't show the same surprise). Edward would still hit him, and hard enough to K.O him. Furthermore, I find it hard to believe that you think La Magra was much faster than Twilight vampires who can run across entire states in a few hours, and have moved so fast Bella (as a human) could barely perceive them. Look at what happens when Bella first turns into a vampire. She can barely control her speed, because it is in the vampires nature to move so quickly

4 and 5. Blade is more skilled than Edward no doubt. Its the only advantage he has over Cullen. But the Blade 2 Video you showed mostly showed him taking out fodder, who Cullen would ROFLSTOMP easily. Against tough opponents who he was more skilled than, the bosses so to speak, he was getting stomped. Against Nomak, he was humbled in H2H combat, and won by trickery, plunging his sword into Nomak's heart when he wasn't expecting. Against Drake, he was stomped on once he transformed and only won due to the Day-star virus. Both of these characters haven't shown Speed or Durability on Cullens level- Drake got pierced by an arrow, Nomak wasn't bulletproof to Blade's bullets, though he was immune to them. And neither of them showed any blur speed. Twilight Vampires are Bulletproof. Blade's Gun's were only killing vampires because they had silver in them. Guess what, Twilight vampires are immune to silver- Cullen said so. So combined with the fact that they are Bulletproof, and immune to the only thing that makes his weapons lethal to standard vampires- I think its reasonable to say Twilight vampires won't need to worry about Blade's guns. To put into question Twilight Vampires, Bella once transformed fell from a cliff and got right back up unharmed. Again, the Sword as I said may cut Edward, but the novel states no man made weapon can harm them- obviously I don't think they have been subjected to Bombs, or Tank shells, or Adamantuim. However Titanium does exist in the Twilight universe. And considering that Vampires don't bring weaponry of any kind when fighting each-other, I'm tempted to say that it won't. But lets run with you assumption that they do for sh!ts and giggles. Blade couldn't tag La Magra when he speed blitzed him. Twilight Vampires display similar levels without even trying (and Edward is the fastest in his family LOL). Blade gets tagged before he has a chance to swing. And if the Sword doesn't manage to cut Cullen, he has to go H2H (cause you know, none of his weapons work), and gets humiliated by a sparkling Vampire.

Yes Deacon would beat (though not stomp) Edward, due to instant regeneration and equivocal speed . I'm not debating that. What I am saying is that both showed Speed which dumbfounded Blade, and which Blade has never been shown to counter, and speed which is greater than other characters which had no problems hitting him, such as Drake and Nomak.

TBH, the only real reason I'm debating this is due to the fact that the sword may or may not cut Edward. Take that away, and its pretty much spite.

Oh and Special thanks to

You're under the impression that the vampires from Blade and Twilight are similar which is really not the case. I don't see how Twilight vampires having comparable reflexes and speed equals Blade having comparable speed and reflexes. The fact that normal humans can hunt and beat vampires in the Blade movie universe is a testament to how they are not that fast or strong, they are basically peak humans. If Ryan Reynolds and Jessica Biel can kill vampires casually then it can either mean two things. 1) They must be quick enough to react to the vamps, which is highly unlikely because they are just humans and have not done anything to warrant this. 2) Vampires are not that quick besides some special ones.

Also, while, I am aware that Spiderman has defeated Blade, the reverse is true. However, Parkers spider sense adds to his speed. In that it has been stated that it is tied to his reflexes. He is able to dodge without needed to know to do so. Or more specifically, he has auto dodge ability because of this. So, if Blade is fast enough to tag spiderman, that in it self speaks to his speed in H2H.

Blade has not done anything to warrant that he can keep up with Spider-man to begin with. Those scans of Blade taking on a blood lusted vamped out Peter are PIS. It's nearly impossible to see how Blade could possibly survive an actual encounter with a moral less Spider-man, let alone one with his stats increased by being a vampire. There is no need for you to post scans of Blade, since you're most likely getting them off KMC respect threads. Blade has only won against classic Spider-man who is nowhere near modern Spider-man in h2h skills or reflexes. Blade has not done anything in his career to warrant him being anywhere close to Spider-man in the agility or reaction department. Dodging gunfire and lasers are normal things for any street level character. For the most part all of his feats involve defeating generic thug vampires. Blade is a highly underrated character on the forums, but the reason is because he has no actual good feats. One or two PIS feats don't constitute a normal power showing for a character, so I don't see why it would apply to Blade.

The fact of the matter is, much to twilight is seen though the eyes of a human and thus everything looks more amazing. Where as in Blade, you are seeing what a hunter sees. Comic blade his plenty of feats to suggest that he would be able to keep up with Cullen. From dodging bullets shot at point blank. Dodging laser fire. Blocking multiple bullets with a spinning chain. Ect. I can provide scans if needed.

This battle is pertaining to movie versions, not written versions. I have already said that Blade wins if this is comic version.

Also, consider this. Cullen has never displayed the H2H that Blade has. Lets say that Cullen is the faster of the two. IF he is, it would not be by the large gap people make it out to be, but lets say he is. The moment they start to exchange blows, Cullen will lose. Ever time he has fast someone that is more skilled than him in H2H he was going to lose but is suddenly saved by Belle or his family. James and he were even until his family arrived(the book doesn't even explain their fight) Demitri was crushing him all over the place and is said to be the best fighter. In the Book Alex bested him in training. In the Movie/book, he was losing to Victoria until Bella stepped in. They final battle (that never happened in the book) he was handling random vamps, stepped to the main vamp and again was going to get killed until he was saved.

Movie Blade would not fair any better than the Volturi who are centuries more older than he is, not to mention most of them have special powers. Edward was already winning in his fight with Victoria and was only losing once Stephen showed up. Edward has already stated several times in the movie, and in the book, that Victoria's skills are not the threat, but her elusiveness. Her power of self-preservation allows her to slip pass his telepathy and Alice's psychic visions. Also what's the point of bringing up Demitri, if he is the best fighter and physically strongest vampire of the Volturi? The last battle featured in Breaking Dawn Part II is him versus the Voltari, the strongest vampires in their world, trying to kill him, while he was not. The movie explicitly states that they were not to harm any of the Volturi because if they did, then the Volturi would have reason to kill them. The Volturi were only there for their daughter, being misinformed, who they thought was a forever child. The Cullens and gang were only meant to hold them back, not actively try to kill them, which cannot be said for the opposing side. Blade would not fare any better versus the Voltari then Edward would.

Cullen is a piss poor fighter compared to the sword master, martial arts master, marksman, vampire hunter that is Blade.

This is the problem. People think just because movie Blade is great at killing vamps from his world equates to him being able to kill vamps from twilight. The vamps from Blade die once they get touched by silver or garlic. Their durability is no better than a regular humans and are for the most part peak human. Vampires in twilight are faster than the human eye, have diamond hard skin, regenerate from harm fairly quickly, don't suffer the traditional weaknesses of vampires, and are stronger. Edward was able to topple a tree without much effort and stop a car with one hand. Yet, Blade who has no superhuman strength feats besides his fight in the beginning of Blade II with the messengers. Even then it was more acrobatics then actual strength. Blade relies on weaponry to get the drop on his foes. He has never demonstrated any amazing speed or strength, comparable to Twilight. Defeating hordes of generic vampires, which regular humans can do, doesn't really mean much. Any of the actual important foes he fought, were for the most part, stronger and faster than he was. Nomak was more than strong enough to man handle Blade, despite receiving a boost from being dumped in a vat of blood. Draco was physically overwhelming Blade and was only killed because of the Day Star virus. That fight took so much effort that Blade passed out from the fight.

This is a video of Victoria moving at high speeds, which should be applicable to most vampires in Twilight, since her stats are not superior to anyone else's.

Yes the movie is shot in third person but follows the main character, which in twilight is Bella, in Blade it's obviously Blade. Blade would not perceive vampires moving at blur speed because he is faster than them (Which is why he is able to react faster than the general population of vampires, the exceptions being the boss characters *Nomak he was actually able to match in speed, and went toe to toe with Drake, Deacon as blood god he was fast enough to actually get kill hits on him but because he was a blood god was actually ineffective so it wasn't due to lack of speed or skill but Plot). However Bella can not perceive how fast the vampires are actually moving when she is watching them play baseball. Which another point when the game is interrupted by james, victoria, and the third whom i don't remember his name, they all ask can they play baseball too. Which would mean they would have to be able to perceive the movements in order to play, which is implied that they can. So there is nothing unique among the Cullens family as far as speed goes since other Vampires and Werewolves can fight on par with them. When the statement was made that Edward was the fastest it was in reference to him catching up to Bella at his top running/traveling speed. However when he is training to fight, Edward's speed isn't really noticeably different from the others. Infact his reactions aren't really that fast at all.

I didn't say fighting in a subway train, i said running next to the train... as far as speed. None of the Cullens are really shown moving that fast. That's an actual speed feat as oppose to a implied one.

I don't see how this pertains to anything. You're somehow trying to relate vampires from Twilight to vampires in Blade. They are not mutually compatible in any way, shape or form. Just because Blade can keep up with Nomak, doesn't mean he can keep with an average vampire from Twilight. Blade couldn't keep up with him physically at all. Also, rewatch the fight with Deacon and Blade. I have posted up the battle in an earlier response. Blade was not quick enough to get a kill with Deacon, Deacon was literally toying around with Blade. After Blade managed to cut off his hand and at the waist. Deacon merely smiled and blitzed him. Blade was literally doing no damage to Deacon whatsoever, so to attribute those 'kills' as Blade's skill rather than Deacon not caring would be misleading.

*Also, blade get faster and stronger when he drinks blood.

This point is moot. Vampires in twilight don't have blood in their veins. They are more like walking diamond statues rather than flesh or blood.

#41 Posted by laflux (17551 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

Reality!

I don't get this. Maybe because I'm fairly fond of Twilight, but the perception of Vampires has shifted greatly since their introduction. Originally Vampires had no aversion to sunlight or many other of the weaknesses usually attributed with them. Bram Stoker's Dracula for example, was fully able to walk in sunlight, manipulate people's minds, turn into various different animals, command animals, as well as having all the usual enhanced physical attributes. He was much more haxed then any of the Twilight Vampires, even the Voturi.

#42 Posted by Strider92 (16771 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: I was inferring that in real life Vampires don't exist air-go reality kills him. Wasn't arguing that he is or isn't a bad character.

#43 Posted by laflux (17551 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

@laflux: I was inferring that in real life Vampires don't exist air-go reality kills him. Wasn't arguing that he is or isn't a bad character.

I actually don't have a witty retort to that. And I always have a witty retort to your responses D:

#44 Posted by Strider92 (16771 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: I will consider this a personal win! (HEY I just hit 10k posts time to go celebrate! O.O)

#45 Posted by GhostRider2 (3500 posts) - - Show Bio

Any werewolf.

#46 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7043 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: I thought Bram Stroker's dracula was weak against 'direct' sunlight? It was indirect sunlight which was pretty useless. Meaning if he wore alot of clothes and like a sunhat he would be okay :D

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#47 Posted by laflux (17551 posts) - - Show Bio

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

@laflux: I thought Bram Stroker's dracula was weak against 'direct' sunlight? It was indirect sunlight which was pretty useless. Meaning if he wore alot of clothes and like a sunhat he would be okay :D

Depends. Film he was fine, book, I don't recall that, but I will probably gonna check that out now :)

#48 Posted by logy5000 (6088 posts) - - Show Bio

The list would take too long to type.

#49 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (4199 posts) - - Show Bio

@OmgOmgWtfWtf said:

@laflux: I thought Bram Stroker's dracula was weak against 'direct' sunlight? It was indirect sunlight which was pretty useless. Meaning if he wore alot of clothes and like a sunhat he would be okay :D

I thought it weakened him in the sense that his powers weren't at their peak because we was a creature of the night, and he was just more vulnerable to attack and being killed in the daytime, not the sun itself could outright kill him. I thought the direct sunlight vs indirect sunlight was a Buffy vamp thing. It's been years since I read the book or watched the movie so correct me if I'm wrong.

#50 Posted by Bruxae (14008 posts) - - Show Bio
No more sparkles for you.