Who can FlasHulk beat?

Why would you assume that Barry is faster when he can't even time travel under his own speed? Wally had to help him during Re-birth plus he just has better and faster feats.

It's still a feat that QS has NEVER replicated and can't replicate, and he isn't calling Hulk a street leveler, but QS has been tagged by multiple street levelers. It's a comparison. With the logic you are using Wolverine, Captain America, Magneto, etc. would all have FTL reaction times.

@artyom: If they tagged him mid run then yes. Heck, I don't even like hulk and I have to admit this.

:o Even though QS barely ever goes hypersonic? So then the consistency is Marvel is terrible or literally every street leveler that has tagged someone that has tagged QS is FTL or Hypersonic? Makes sense /sarcasm.

If that is the case show me feats of them doing other FTL feats.

1. He's talking about speed, not overall.

2. The two scans you posted two are separate instances...

Hey but Thor has TAGGED QS THEN he is FTL !

OMFG !

Wolverine has tagged Thor who has tagged QS !!!!

Wolverine is FTL !!!!

OMFG !!!!

Gambit has tagged THOR who has TAGGED QS then he is FTL too !!!!!!

OMFG !!!!!!!

@realitywarper said:

@artyom said:

@wdc said:

@artyom: If they tagged him mid run then yes. Heck, I don't even like hulk and I have to admit this.

:o Even though QS barely ever goes hypersonic? So then the consistency is Marvel is terrible or literally every street leveler that has tagged someone that has tagged QS is FTL or Hypersonic? Makes sense /sarcasm.

If that is the case show me feats of them doing other FTL feats.

Hey but Thor has TAGGED QS THEN he is FTL !

OMFG !

Wolverine has tagged Thor who has tagged QS !!!!

Wolverine is FTL !!!!

OMFG !!!!

Gambit has tagged THOR who has TAGGED QS then he is FTL too !!!!!!

OMFG !!!!!!!

Meaning that Captain America, Iron Man, Black Panther, Spider-Man, etc. ARE ALL FASTER THAN LIGHT!

@artyom said:

@realitywarper said:

@artyom said:

@wdc said:

@artyom: If they tagged him mid run then yes. Heck, I don't even like hulk and I have to admit this.

:o Even though QS barely ever goes hypersonic? So then the consistency is Marvel is terrible or literally every street leveler that has tagged someone that has tagged QS is FTL or Hypersonic? Makes sense /sarcasm.

If that is the case show me feats of them doing other FTL feats.

Hey but Thor has TAGGED QS THEN he is FTL !

OMFG !

Wolverine has tagged Thor who has tagged QS !!!!

Wolverine is FTL !!!!

OMFG !!!!

Gambit has tagged THOR who has TAGGED QS then he is FTL too !!!!!!

OMFG !!!!!!!

Meaning that Captain America, Iron Man, Black Panther, Spider-Man, etc. ARE ALL FASTER THAN LIGHT!

Charles Xavier tagged Wolverine with his mind then Charles Xavier is FTL !!!!

OMFG !!!!!

Stairs tagged Charles Xavier who is faster than Wolverine who is FTL !!!!

STAIRS ARE FASTER THAN LIGHT !!!

@realitywarper: Oh man hahaha. I think I'm done with the battles for a while :P

No one knows because he doesn't exist.

Why ? ^^

Too many uneducated newbies flooding the site lately. I'm going to wait until they educate themselves.

You're missing my point (Though Marvel has had plenty of retcons. Beyonder is literally called Post-Retcon Beyonder). My point is that, let us assume that the "faster than radio waves" feat is legit. Fine, one time in his entire life Quicksilver has gone FTL. He has literally never gone FTL at any other point in his career without some kind of weird amp (Terrigen Mists). He most certainly had never gone lightspeed BEFORE the Radio Wave feat, which is where your Hulk tagging him scan comes from. Why do you think Quicksilver was going lightspeed when Hulk hit him in that scan? Why do you think this counts as A: Quicksilver moving at lightpseed and B: Hulk tagging someone who was moving at lightspeed? It clearly isn't.

The street leveler comment is not saying Hulk is a street leveler. It is saying that dozens of Street Levelers have tagged and beaten Quicksilver and those characters do not have lightspeed combat speed or reaction speed. Using your logic, as others in this thread have mocked you for, several characters with no superspeed whatsoever can move fast enough to hit an object moving at lightspeed. It is an asinine conclusion born from the worst, most intentionally misleading logic I can imagine. It's being as intentionally duplicitous as you can possibly be ignoring all other context and information regarding the two characters.

You don't exist :o

Burrrrnnnn!!! JK, bro.

Everyone and no one.

Strength is almost a non-factor, but the Hulk could bring a couple of things to the table - faster than light regen, Banner intellect. Actually Banner vs X with faster than light prep could be interesting.

Lol

@dredeuced: Because in the photo, he isn't pushing himself.

Heck, he's not even concentrating. This isn't some end of story arc, super burst of speed to save the day, everything is leading up to this attack thing. He's just casually running allowing, thinking about his decisions and contemplating life choices. As it isn't a different person, just a different costume, and he didn't get some plot power boost or DBZ training, and there was no official retcon, it stands that he could always run that fast. And while im at it, if he's just running and getting ftl, it should stand that if he's attacking someone he'd be going faster.

@realitywarper said:

@artyom said:

@wdc said:

@artyom: If they tagged him mid run then yes. Heck, I don't even like hulk and I have to admit this.

:o Even though QS barely ever goes hypersonic? So then the consistency is Marvel is terrible or literally every street leveler that has tagged someone that has tagged QS is FTL or Hypersonic? Makes sense /sarcasm.

If that is the case show me feats of them doing other FTL feats.

Hey but Thor has TAGGED QS THEN he is FTL !

Yeah, Thor is ftl on a couple occasions. You didn't know this?

OMFG !

Wolverine has tagged Thor who has tagged QS !!!!

Wolverine is FTL !!!!

OMFG !!!!

Gambit has tagged THOR who has TAGGED QS then he is FTL too !!!!!!

OMFG !!!!!!!

You said it, not me.

And really, YOUR accusing ME of making a strawman arrangement? Look in a mirror. You bring up the argument that all these other characters are FTL just to knock it down instead of trying to prove that hulk isn't FTL as I already provided evidence for. Fail.

@wdc said:

@realitywarper said:

@artyom said:

@wdc said:

@artyom: If they tagged him mid run then yes. Heck, I don't even like hulk and I have to admit this.

:o Even though QS barely ever goes hypersonic? So then the consistency is Marvel is terrible or literally every street leveler that has tagged someone that has tagged QS is FTL or Hypersonic? Makes sense /sarcasm.

If that is the case show me feats of them doing other FTL feats.

Hey but Thor has TAGGED QS THEN he is FTL !

Yeah, Thor is ftl on a couple occasions. You didn't know this?

OMFG !

Wolverine has tagged Thor who has tagged QS !!!!

Wolverine is FTL !!!!

OMFG !!!!

Gambit has tagged THOR who has TAGGED QS then he is FTL too !!!!!!

OMFG !!!!!!!

You said it, not me.

And really, YOUR accusing ME of making a strawman arrangement? Look in a mirror. You bring up the argument that all these other characters are FTL just to knock it down instead of trying to prove that hulk isn't FTL as I already provided evidence for. Fail.

You said it.
Not me.

@realitywarper: I'm not the one who brought all these other characters into the equation with your shady straw man argument. If they really did tag quicksilver mid run, then maybe they are FTL, or Thor mid flight, then maybe they are ftl, but I really don't care right now, we're talking about HULK. Try again?

Hell !

You did it again !

Glad you agree!

Please stop.

@wdc: Please show us more scans of Hulk being FTL. Oh, you can't? Probably because Hulk is not FTL.

Please stop what, beat you so badly that you can't do anything but tell horrible jokes trying desperately to prove that Hulk isn't FTL because Hulk is FTL!

With that logic, Superman isn't even a moon buster. What, he only did it once. Can you show me another time when superman destroyed anything bigger then the moon? Well then superman isn't a moon buster! Makes sense.

@wdc: I'm a huge Hulk fan and I'll tell you right now that Hulk is NOT FTL. He has speed that a lot of people don't know about but he is NOT FTL. Neither is Quicksilver. He is faster than people put him at(Mach 5) but he is NOT FTL.

Of course !

Spiderman is FTL too !

Spiderman >>>> Firelord >>>>> Power Cosmic and Power Cosmic = Galactus THEN Spiderman >>>>>> Galactus !

No, with your logic anyone that has ever hit Hulk or QS, AKA a bunch of people, are FTL, and that is wrong. QS had no FTL feats when Hulk hit him, and nothing suggests that QS was even going FTL.

Let's ask some of the resident Hulk fans @hulkage@thedailybagel@green_skaar

Using "cuss words" is against the rules on Comicvine. I suggest that you read them before continuing any more conversations on this site.

@realitywarper: What are you even going on about anymore? You used to be making bad jokes, but not its just incoherent. Whats the scan, some yellow guy pointing at captain america? Did you just muck up the scans? How does that make Spiderman able to tag quicksilver?

@randomsid: Many people seem to think this, so I'll agree to disagree here. It doesn't even matter, at max, if I'm right, he's only slightly ftl, and that being added onto flash's hundreds of times faster then ftl, it's a non factor.

I have already warned you about cussing.

@wdc: It's not what they think, its what is shown in the comics. Never has Hulk been shown to go faster than light. He has speed, but it is nowhere even close to FTL. Also, after doing some calculations based on a showing of Quicksilver running around the earth in 4 seconds, that would put him at roughly mach 3000, still way under FTL speeds. But regardless, Hulk does not react FTL(he is faster in reaction than many people think but nowhere near FTL).

@artyom: Sorry, I've gotten alot of comments, I just have missed it. I'll try to act more professionally.

@randomsid: I already said I'm done discussing it.

nice joke

the flash's top speed is leagues faster than superman and he can reach FTL speeds way faster than superman, as for hulk, until post-crisis superman destroys anything above a moon, he isn't beating hulk in terms of power

bolded and underlined.

in that case a turtle is kinda like a rabbit, speed wise :)

kinda like superman in that the outcome would be a super fast character with very high levels of super strength.

I went back and edited out the curse words. Happy?

@sodamyat: that's not what you meant, because after that you said:

yes. i disagree that hulk is stronger than superman.

@sodamyat: i won't argue with you between who's stronger, the hulk or superman

but a character moving at the flash's speed and having the hulk's durability and strength is definitely not a "superman level character"

eh. i disagree. i think the outcome is kinda like superman.

I agree. Superman being stronger than the Hulk is very debatable since I have never seen Hulk strength feats where he struggles with a small aircraft while having the help of Wonder Woman.

@ariesxmasters said:

@le0nhart said:

@sodamyat: i won't argue with you between who's stronger, the hulk or superman

but a character moving at the flash's speed and having the hulk's durability and strength is definitely not a "superman level character"

I agree. Superman being stronger than the Hulk is very debatable since I have never seen Hulk strength feats where he struggles with a small aircraft while having the help of Wonder Woman.

really? thats interesting cause just today i saw hulk fight a robot and struggled to dent it...

but i know better than to think so poorly of hulks strength.

@ariesxmasters: well, i don't know about striking power between the two, but new52 superman has the hulk beat in lifting strength since he technically bench pressed earth for 5 days straight with no exposure to sun light

@sodamyat said:

@ariesxmasters said:

@le0nhart said:

@sodamyat: i won't argue with you between who's stronger, the hulk or superman

but a character moving at the flash's speed and having the hulk's durability and strength is definitely not a "superman level character"

I agree. Superman being stronger than the Hulk is very debatable since I have never seen Hulk strength feats where he struggles with a small aircraft while having the help of Wonder Woman.

really? thats interesting cause just today i saw hulk fight a robot and struggled to dent it...

but i know better than to think so poorly of hulks strength.

Post the feat I would like to see it. That and it depends on how strong the robot is. That aircraft was a few 100 tons at most.