Who can FlasHulk beat?

barry allen and bruce banner put together

who can they beat?

barry allen and hulk put together...

thats kinda like...superman

Umm...everyone. =D

@sodamyat: *way better than superman*

I dont think so.

Combining Barry with Hulk would result in a near Superman level character

@sodamyat: Nope. He would be stronger, and fight faster than him.

I disagree with the stronger part/

and so essentially the outcome would be a superman level character.

@sodamyat: no. Flash alone takes superman. A light speed punch (not even his best) combined with a hulk punch one shots all the kryptonians. Super man is one of the mkst overratdd heroes

Wally does, I dont think barry does.

lol i dont think superman is overrated.

Hulk would finally beat Superman easily

Hulk and Flash.

@sodamyat: barry imo is faster than wally and both are far above supes. If you cant see how people overrate super man (seriously search some battles that should be obvious) than i dont know man.

hes not. Wally is faster. He has the faster speed feats.

@sodamyat: please show me. I have a feat of barry going 40× the speed of light. No calculations on paper feat.

Wally has gone far faster than that.

And Barry has admitted Wally is faster.

I'll find the scan in a bit.

Barry is faster than Superman, but really dude? 40 times the speed of light? Superman has gone faster than that

@sodamyat: 1&3 please enlighten me.http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/149524/4172578-8497495489-20309.png

2 yes and batman was said to be the most powerful heero in a random encounter by hal jordon. If you want to go by what they say ill make an arguxment spjder man can beat the one above all.

@comicdude360: just stop talking. I said that Wally has gone faster than that and I said Barry has admitted Wally is faster. So now just wait for me to get the scans and just wait.

here barry says that wally has surpassed him. and i'll post speed feats in a bit.

@sodamyat: someone needs to take a chill pill man. And i already said i dont care about admissions. They literally mean nothing.

Anyone that bloodlusted/angry Flash can beat.

How does it not matter that Barry says Wally is faster than him?

That said I'd like a no calculation 40x lightspeed feat for Barry. I can give you Wally going so fast he exists in two places at once which is way faster than 40X the speed of light.

Yeah, I don't really like to get into the nonexistant character mash-up thing, but I'd have to say that a Flash/Hulk mash-up would definitely be above Superman level.

@dredeuced: ive already given answers to both your questions.

Maybe Silva Surfa

The Incredible Flash would wreck Superman level characters for days.

Pre Crisis feats are not applicable, dude. Not to Post Crisis Barry and most certainly not to Post Flashpoint Barry. And that feat is 10 times the speed of light. Which is way slower than...like, a million things Wally's done, which includes outrunning Death and the Big Bang in one feat. Hell, if you were going to use Pre-crisis Barry you could've atleast used him outrunning the speed of life.

The funny thing is the very feat you posted in the thread IS A CALCULATION. It even mentions him running around the earth 75 times in a second at 1,860,000 miles per second. These are the exact same ways we determine how fast anyone in comics goes -- distance/time. The feat you posted doesn't suddenly become more real or count more because they went through the effort of doing the math for you.

That scan doesn't make much sense to me. Why would Barry Allen be talking about Wally West tapping into the speed force like it was something new to him?

http://www.comicvine.com/speed-force/4015-42071/

Max Mercury discovered that it is Barry Allen himself who generates the Speed Force with every step that he runs. When he was struck by the bolt of lightning that gave him his powers, the Speed Force was created and echoed through time and every dimension.

So, if Barry Allen was the one that generated the speed force...how could he not know what it was when talking about Wally West tapping into the Speed Force?

Pre 52 barry + Hulk definately takes superman maybe a high herald level like surfer or sentry?

no abstracts

Well.. depends how angry they are... Since Hulk is pretty weak before getting mad... Everyone seems to forget that. PLus if they merged i feel it would tone down the speed

Surfer

@chimeroid: how is he weak before he gets mad? Hulk doesn't have a base strength. His anger when freshly transformed depends on the reason for the transformstion. He's been biographically stated (twice) to be the strongest hero on marvel earth after his amp on sakaar. And that's at what you would call 'base'.

@thedailybagel: We were comparing him to superman and base hulk with no ramp up time is weak.

@chimeroid: prove it. Not including a classic instance.

It was made before the Flash Rebirth retcon. At that point The Speed Force wasn't something generate by Wally. Barry didn't know he generated the Speed Force before Max Mercury, for instance. He didn't know what the Speed Force was until Wally told him about it upon his return in Infinite Crisis. Even with the retcon, though, it doesn't make Barry's statement less true or the statements and feats of a million other people who have outright stated Wally passed up Barry ages ago.

this guy could be unstopable

New 52 Barry has no IMP.

@thedailybagel: I feel there is no need to prove that Hulk gets stronger the more angry he gets... that is common knowledge and is beyond insane to ask for scans for that.. Also find all Superman vs Hulk threads....

This is not what he was telling you, what he is telling you is that Hulk can instantly transform to planetary levels of strength(and he has in the past), his strength depends on the circumstances of his transformation.

@atheistknowledge: Well, that is true. But when he transforms he needs to be hella mad to be on planetary level. And i am not sure he was ever so mad that off the bat he is as strong as Superman.

Actually he has a few times and a couple of times he freshly transformed with physical strength that easily surpassed Superman right off the bat.

@atheistknowledge: Well, even if he can do it, still depends on the persona FlasHulk gets since barry is not the one to get so pissed off and also. That is a rarity... Dont get me wrong Flashulk with sanity would crush anyone up to galactic level beings... But there are factors to calculate.

A H'El level character

Who would beat him? Zoom+Thor amalgam!

that'll be very scary... even the idea of thor being fast scares many people XD

Stomps everyone in multiverse in a couple seconds.

not batman

Ermagerd. This guy could be unstoppable. I would say.... maybe... *gasp* Silver Surfer + Nova Prime!