"Yes, but you left out the fact that in the beginning you were saying that Bardock was cool and a bunch of other crap. (At least I think that was you! XD)Wow. Lol. You sure showed me.Now, can you please PM me (Since this is not the right time and thread) how Goku would lose to Superweenie- I mean Superman?And dude, I don't come to the Vine to really debate. (If you haven't noticed) I come here to RP. This is the only good site to RP and I am glad my cousins showed me it. So don't go saying "You should leave the Vine" as if you were some philosipher. Besides, I'd prefer "fanboyism" that contains the simple truth over a bunch of void facts stated so that it SEEMS Superman could beat Goku.You should consider leaving the word fanboyism out of your sentences. Really. Us fanatics don't need losers like you to ruin our awesomeness."
Who can face Bardock in an equal fight within Marvel or DC?
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"I'm referring to your statement where you said Superman was the only real match for Bardock"CRAP. How could I forget the Flash? Yeah, the Flash could stand a chance.
"Shadow Tiger said:No, Akira Toriyama has recieved many questions if Goku can beat Superman and he said in SSJ3 Goku is on par with Supes."Sorry but, tu loco! Iron Man would become scrap metal in under 5 minutes! XDum supes could solo the dbz cast even goku at ssj3 wouldnt last more then 3 secondsAnd DC... I'm pretty sure Superman would stand a good chance against Bardock."
as far bardock
almost any member of the jla could wipe their ass with that chump"
"Acer said:"Sentry would give him a good fight"erik said:"Wisppeons said:um no"so who is he on par with?"Anyone that has comparable strength. So depending on the version, Grungy would be on par. This is just speculation, but I think it is safe to say that Bardock could lift about 150,000lbs. I was just assuming the average person can lift about that much and multiplying it by 1,000. So anyone in that Strength class could be trouble for Bardock."
remember goku struggled with 10 tons of weight in other world
at this point goku was stronger then cell and freeza in his base form
goku doesnt even enter class 100 until ssj3 and when he does hes barely a class 100
eve at ssj3 goku is pitiful compared to dc and marvelpower houses
150 thousand pounds my ass"
No, Goku had 10 tons on each arm and leg, so it was 40 tons.
Going against Bardock?
Marvel: I could see someone like Wonder Man taking him. It would be a tough battle cause I think Bardock has him in speed in fighting skills, but Wonder Man is stronger and more durable.
DC: Probably someone like...Starfire?
"Going against Bardock?Her energy powers arn't that great compared to Bardock.
Marvel: I could see someone like Wonder Man taking him. It would be a tough battle cause I think Bardock has him in speed in fighting skills, but Wonder Man is stronger and more durable.
DC: Probably someone like...Starfire?"
"Bardocks is more or less on the same level asRegular Superman."
Bardock is either slightly weaker than Superman or on par with him in power not strenght, Goku in normal form struggles at 40 tons and at Super Saiyan he can move at incredible speeds with 10 tons on each arm and leg, so in Super Saiyan Goku's strenght limit is about 80 tons, in Super Saiyan 2 his limit is 120 tons, and in Super Saiyan 3 he can increase his power but it tires him out, he can't increase it infinitely, Super Saiyan 3 Goku's strenght limit is moving the moon, as stated by DBZ game creators and writers of the manga, and modern Superman needs help moving the moon so I guess that SSJ3 Goku's strenght is more than Superman, but SSJ3 Goku's power starts to drop once he powers up too much, SSJ4 Goku can shatter mountains with one punch, his strenght has never been mentioned but it is rumored to be more than the weight of the Earth. So Goku becomes stronger than Supes at SSJ3 (temporarily) and SSJ4. I don't even need to mention the speed of Goku, Goku and Vegeta have fought so fast that you can't even see them anymore. In a long range battle Supes would have a problem with Bardock as Bardock could easily kill Superman with his energy waves or whatever.
"Nobody said:Nope, but she beats him in terms of strength great enough where it should be ok."Going against Bardock?Her energy powers arn't that great compared to Bardock. "
Marvel: I could see someone like Wonder Man taking him. It would be a tough battle cause I think Bardock has him in speed in fighting skills, but Wonder Man is stronger and more durable.
DC: Probably someone like...Starfire?"
Superman is weak against ki energy. like ive said in the past ki is almost like magic which are otherworldy powers or force that superman has absolutely no defense against.
"Superman is weak against ki energy. like ive said in the past ki is almost like magic which are otherworldy powers or force that superman has absolutely no defense against."Supes isn't as weak to magic anymore... Besides, you have no proof that Ki will effect Superman the same way magic does and It isn't magic, its ki energy.
"Lantern Prime said:Ki enrgy is basically spiritual energy. So do u now really think Supes have a defense against that?"Superman is weak against ki energy. like ive said in the past ki is almost like magic which are otherworldy powers or force that superman has absolutely no defense against."Supes isn't as weak to magic anymore... Besides, you have no proof that Ki will effect Superman the same way magic does and It isn't magic, its ki energy."
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