Anti-Monitor. Galactus. Silver Surfer. Thanos. Anyone with a cosmic cube. Most people with an infinity gem. Anyone with the infinity gauntlet and all gems. Anyone with the heart of the universe. Anyone with the anti life equation. Darkseid. Fully powered Onslaught. A Celestial. Franklin Richards. Odin and Gaea or anyone with the Odin/Gaea force, or as I call it the Skyfather force. Death. Aegis. Tenebrous. Spectre. Dr.Fate. Dr.Strange. Monitor. Ion. Parralax. Superman Prime. Cyborg Superman. Doomsday. Superman. Ultraman. Most people from any lantern Corps. Nearly any of the Heralds of Galactus. Hunger. Dormammu. Shuma Gorath. Zoom. The list goes on and on. Oh you said equal. That renders half the list null.
"Anti-Monitor. Galactus. Silver Surfer. Thanos. Anyone with a cosmic cube. Most people with an infinity gem. Anyone with the infinity gauntlet and all gems. Anyone with the heart of the universe. Anyone with the anti life equation. Darkseid. Fully powered Onslaught. A Celestial. Franklin Richards. Odin and Gaea or anyone with the Odin/Gaea force, or as I call it the Skyfather force. Death. Aegis. Tenebrous. Spectre. Dr.Fate. Dr.Strange. Monitor. Ion. Parralax. Superman Prime. Cyborg Superman. Doomsday. Superman. Ultraman. Most people from any lantern Corps. Nearly any of the Heralds of Galactus. Hunger. Dormammu. Shuma Gorath. Zoom. The list goes on and on."
..................i said on an equal fight. not....this?!
"Anti-Monitor. Galactus. Silver Surfer. Thanos. Anyone with a cosmic cube. Most people with an infinity gem. Anyone with the infinity gauntlet and all gems. Anyone with the heart of the universe. Anyone with the anti life equation. Darkseid. Fully powered Onslaught. A Celestial. Franklin Richards. Odin and Gaea or anyone with the Odin/Gaea force, or as I call it the Skyfather force. Death. Aegis. Tenebrous. Spectre. Dr.Fate. Dr.Strange. Monitor. Ion. Parralax. Superman Prime. Cyborg Superman. Doomsday. Superman. Ultraman. Most people from any lantern Corps. Nearly any of the Heralds of Galactus. Hunger. Dormammu. Shuma Gorath. Zoom. The list goes on and on."
..................i said on an equal fight. not....this?! "
probably wolverine
venom sabre toothe
mainly because they could regenerate from anything bardock threw at them
"Anti-Monitor. Galactus. Silver Surfer. Thanos. Anyone with a cosmic cube. Most people with an infinity gem. Anyone with the infinity gauntlet and all gems. Anyone with the heart of the universe. Anyone with the anti life equation. Darkseid. Fully powered Onslaught. A Celestial. Franklin Richards. Odin and Gaea or anyone with the Odin/Gaea force, or as I call it the Skyfather force. Death. Aegis. Tenebrous. Spectre. Dr.Fate. Dr.Strange. Monitor. Ion. Parralax. Superman Prime. Cyborg Superman. Doomsday. Superman. Ultraman. Most people from any lantern Corps. Nearly any of the Heralds of Galactus. Hunger. Dormammu. Shuma Gorath. Zoom. The list goes on and on."
..................i said on an equal fight. not....this?! "
Thats why I edited my post. Ultraman could have an equal fight *he's basically just an evil superman*
"Anti-Monitor. Galactus. Silver Surfer. Thanos. Anyone with a cosmic cube. Most people with an infinity gem. Anyone with the infinity gauntlet and all gems. Anyone with the heart of the universe. Anyone with the anti life equation. Darkseid. Fully powered Onslaught. A Celestial. Franklin Richards. Odin and Gaea or anyone with the Odin/Gaea force, or as I call it the Skyfather force. Death. Aegis. Tenebrous. Spectre. Dr.Fate. Dr.Strange. Monitor. Ion. Parralax. Superman Prime. Cyborg Superman. Doomsday. Superman. Ultraman. Most people from any lantern Corps. Nearly any of the Heralds of Galactus. Hunger. Dormammu. Shuma Gorath. Zoom. The list goes on and on."
..................i said on an equal fight. not....this?! "
probably wolverine
venom sabre toothe
mainly because they could regenerate from anything bardock threw at them"
not necessarily, the beam he threw at the two aliens completely turned them to dust. Nothing was left of them. i think that would happen to Sabertooth though it won't happen to wolverine though.
how so? when they made the movie, there was allot of depth put into his personality. He was a ruthless purger who does what is ordered like a good soldier. That all changed when his friends died and learned the dark secret that put his entire race on the line. As the story progressed, he learned the true depth of Frieza and his plans. This is a man who is a ruthless warrior that suddenly wanted to save his race and free his people from a tyrant.
how so? when they made the movie, there was allot of depth put into his personality. He was a ruthless purger who does what is ordered like a good soldier. That all changed when his friends died and learned the dark secret that put his entire race on the line. As the story progressed, he learned the true depth of Frieza and his plans. This is a man who is a ruthless warrior that suddenly wanted to save his race and free his people from a tyrant. "
In terms of strength he is still pretty tough. In the DBZ universe, the average human has a power level of anywhere between 1 - 20. It's true. Look it up. Bardock at the time of his death had a power level of 10,000. So at worst he was 500 times stronger than the average human. More than likely he is 1,000 times stronger though. Bardock is no joke. He may not be Superman strong or even close to it, but he is someone to be taken seriously even in DC and Marvel. It would just be stupid not to.
Anyone that has comparable strength. So depending on the version, Grungy would be on par. This is just speculation, but I think it is safe to say that Bardock could lift about 150,000lbs. I was just assuming the average person can lift about that much and multiplying it by 1,000. So anyone in that Strength class could be trouble for Bardock.
Anyone that has comparable strength. So depending on the version, Grungy would be on par. This is just speculation, but I think it is safe to say that Bardock could lift about 150,000lbs. I was just assuming the average person can lift about that much and multiplying it by 1,000. So anyone in that Strength class could be trouble for Bardock."
But then Bardock also has his long range power blasts.
"In terms of strength he is still pretty tough. In the DBZ universe, the average human has a power level of anywhere between 1 - 20. It's true. Look it up. Bardock at the time of his death had a power level of 10,000. So at worst he was 500 times stronger than the average human. More than likely he is 1,000 times stronger though. Bardock is no joke. He may not be Superman strong or even close to it, but he is someone to be taken seriously even in DC and Marvel. It would just be stupid not to."
dude even ssj3 goku wouldnt be taken seriously his power is a joke
at least when it comes to physical strenght speed and durability
"In terms of strength he is still pretty tough. In the DBZ universe, the average human has a power level of anywhere between 1 - 20. It's true. Look it up. Bardock at the time of his death had a power level of 10,000. So at worst he was 500 times stronger than the average human. More than likely he is 1,000 times stronger though. Bardock is no joke. He may not be Superman strong or even close to it, but he is someone to be taken seriously even in DC and Marvel. It would just be stupid not to."
dude even ssj3 goku wouldnt be taken seriously his power is a joke
at least when it comes to physical strenght speed and durability"
Fanboyism and hater. No physical evidence brought to the table.
Anyone that has comparable strength. So depending on the version, Grungy would be on par. This is just speculation, but I think it is safe to say that Bardock could lift about 150,000lbs. I was just assuming the average person can lift about that much and multiplying it by 1,000. So anyone in that Strength class could be trouble for Bardock."
um no
remember goku struggled with 10 tons of weight in other world
at this point goku was stronger then cell and freeza in his base form
goku doesnt even enter class 100 until ssj3 and when he does hes barely a class 100
eve at ssj3 goku is pitiful compared to dc and marvelpower houses
Anyone that has comparable strength. So depending on the version, Grungy would be on par. This is just speculation, but I think it is safe to say that Bardock could lift about 150,000lbs. I was just assuming the average person can lift about that much and multiplying it by 1,000. So anyone in that Strength class could be trouble for Bardock."
um no
remember goku struggled with 10 tons of weight in other world
at this point goku was stronger then cell and freeza in his base form
goku doesnt even enter class 100 until ssj3 and when he does hes barely a class 100
eve at ssj3 goku is pitiful compared to dc and marvelpower houses
150 thousand pounds my ass"
Once again. Rabid fanboyism. Are you going to debate or just rant and gesticulate.
Anyone that has comparable strength. So depending on the version, Grungy would be on par. This is just speculation, but I think it is safe to say that Bardock could lift about 150,000lbs. I was just assuming the average person can lift about that much and multiplying it by 1,000. So anyone in that Strength class could be trouble for Bardock."
um no
remember goku struggled with 10 tons of weight in other world
at this point goku was stronger then cell and freeza in his base form
goku doesnt even enter class 100 until ssj3 and when he does hes barely a class 100
eve at ssj3 goku is pitiful compared to dc and marvelpower houses
150 thousand pounds my ass"
Once again. Rabid fanboyism. Are you going to debate or just rant and gesticulate."
im using feats buddy goku struggled with 10 tons of weight in other world
at this time he was stronger then cell and freeza in base form
so your exaggerations of bardock is out of line 150 k lol i nearly fell out of my chair laughing at that
Anyone that has comparable strength. So depending on the version, Grungy would be on par. This is just speculation, but I think it is safe to say that Bardock could lift about 150,000lbs. I was just assuming the average person can lift about that much and multiplying it by 1,000. So anyone in that Strength class could be trouble for Bardock."
um no
remember goku struggled with 10 tons of weight in other world
at this point goku was stronger then cell and freeza in his base form
goku doesnt even enter class 100 until ssj3 and when he does hes barely a class 100
eve at ssj3 goku is pitiful compared to dc and marvelpower houses
150 thousand pounds my ass"
Once again. Rabid fanboyism. Are you going to debate or just rant and gesticulate."
im using feats buddy goku struggled with 10 tons of weight in other world
at this time he was stronger then cell and freeza in base form
so your exaggerations of bardock is out of line 150 k lol i nearly fell out of my chair laughing at that"
So you are just stupid then. It has already been proven where Bardock stands in the DBZ universe. I brought nothing but facts. You brought things that are taken out of context. Goku was struggling because he was working on speed, not strength. The 150,000 was conjecture, but it was a safe assumption based on the facts.
The thing is, even though Goku at his base form said that "that would be a "little" heavy" he wasn't going down like a dead bird. He was still in the air but was slowly moving down towards the ground because of the 40 tonnes on his body. And when he changed into super sayan, he managed to move his body with incredible speed. So, while he is in his ssj1 form, add in another 40 or 50 tones, then he should be at close to his limit at training his speed. thats altogether 90 tones on his ssj1 form.
And also, me, erik, vance and this other guy proved that kid goku in dragon ball was moving at mach 2 speed. So i'm pretty sure Bardock could move faster.
I could bring facts to the table all day and you wouldn't listen because you are just a hater but I will waste my breath once again. Ok. I will explain this from an athletic point of view. I assume you have no trouble lifting a one pound weight. You could probably curl that tiny thing all day without breaking a sweat right? Ok. Now try working on your speed with it. Throw punches hard and fast. I can promise you that one pound weight will get real heavy real fast. You see my point. That is facts pulled straight out of reality "buddy". Boxers that train lifting extremely heavy weights all day will train with 2 - 4 pound gloves. They get really tired really fast. Use your head man. I hope this isn't too hard to get your head around.
"The thing is, even though Goku at his base form said that "that would be a "little" heavy" he wasn't going down like a dead bird. He was still in the air but was slowly moving down towards the ground because of the 40 tonnes on his body. And when he changed into super sayan, he managed to move his body with incredible speed. So, while he is in his ssj1 form, add in another 40 or 50 tones, then he should be at close to his limit at training his speed. thats altogether 90 tones on his ssj1 form. "
"I could bring facts to the table all day and you wouldn't listen because you are just a hater but I will waste my breath once again. Ok. I will explain this from an athletic point of view. I assume you have no trouble lifting a one pound weight. You could probably curl that tiny thing all day without breaking a sweat right? Ok. Now try working on your speed with it. Throw punches hard and fast. I can promise you that one pound weight will get real heavy real fast. You see my point. That is facts pulled straight out of reality "buddy". Boxers that train lifting extremely heavy weights all day will train with 2 - 4 pound gloves. They get really tired really fast. Use your head man. I hope this isn't too hard to get your head around."
Your trying to bring in punching power
fair enough however dbz characters punching power is also lacking compared to dc and marvel power houses
these characters could shatter planets and even break the boundaries of space and time with their fist
"goku in ssj3 form is around the 100 ton class but thats about it"
Assumption not based on facts AND stated from a guy that claims the entire DC and Marvel universe can solo Goku SSJ3. Your opinion means nothing in any DBZ related debate.
"The thing is, even though Goku at his base form said that "that would be a "little" heavy" he wasn't going down like a dead bird. He was still in the air but was slowly moving down towards the ground because of the 40 tonnes on his body. And when he changed into super sayan, he managed to move his body with incredible speed. So, while he is in his ssj1 form, add in another 40 or 50 tones, then he should be at close to his limit at training his speed. thats altogether 90 tones on his ssj1 form. "
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HELLOOOOO!!! Read this for a minute will you people?!!
"The thing is, even though Goku at his base form said that "that would be a "little" heavy" he wasn't going down like a dead bird. He was still in the air but was slowly moving down towards the ground because of the 40 tonnes on his body. And when he changed into super sayan, he managed to move his body with incredible speed. So, while he is in his ssj1 form, add in another 40 or 50 tones, then he should be at close to his limit at training his speed. thats altogether 90 tones on his ssj1 form. "
"
HELLOOOOO!!! Read this for a minute will you people?!! "
"I could bring facts to the table all day and you wouldn't listen because you are just a hater but I will waste my breath once again. Ok. I will explain this from an athletic point of view. I assume you have no trouble lifting a one pound weight. You could probably curl that tiny thing all day without breaking a sweat right? Ok. Now try working on your speed with it. Throw punches hard and fast. I can promise you that one pound weight will get real heavy real fast. You see my point. That is facts pulled straight out of reality "buddy". Boxers that train lifting extremely heavy weights all day will train with 2 - 4 pound gloves. They get really tired really fast. Use your head man. I hope this isn't too hard to get your head around."
Your trying to bring in punching power
fair enough however dbz characters punching power is also lacking compared to dc and marvel power houses
these characters could shatter planets and even break the boundaries of space and time with their fist
dbz characters? mmm not so much"
Once again you managed to completely miss the point. Did you make it through high school yet? I never said anyone in DBZ was on par with DC's best. I think you are just retarded for claiming that any character in DC and Marvel would take Goku SSJ3. It is an ignorant thing to say that could only come out of a haters mouth.
"The thing is, even though Goku at his base form said that "that would be a "little" heavy" he wasn't going down like a dead bird. He was still in the air but was slowly moving down towards the ground because of the 40 tonnes on his body. And when he changed into super sayan, he managed to move his body with incredible speed. So, while he is in his ssj1 form, add in another 40 or 50 tones, then he should be at close to his limit at training his speed. thats altogether 90 tones on his ssj1 form. "
So, i`m going to speculate this and make it as plausible as i can from that post above. But before i continue, do any of you disagree with that statement?
"The thing is, even though Goku at his base form said that "that would be a "little" heavy" he wasn't going down like a dead bird. He was still in the air but was slowly moving down towards the ground because of the 40 tonnes on his body. And when he changed into super sayan, he managed to move his body with incredible speed. So, while he is in his ssj1 form, add in another 40 or 50 tones, then he should be at close to his limit at training his speed. thats altogether 90 tones on his ssj1 form. "
So, i`m going to speculate this and make it as plausible as i can from that post above. But before i continue, do any of you disagree with that statement?"
"I could bring facts to the table all day and you wouldn't listen because you are just a hater but I will waste my breath once again. Ok. I will explain this from an athletic point of view. I assume you have no trouble lifting a one pound weight. You could probably curl that tiny thing all day without breaking a sweat right? Ok. Now try working on your speed with it. Throw punches hard and fast. I can promise you that one pound weight will get real heavy real fast. You see my point. That is facts pulled straight out of reality "buddy". Boxers that train lifting extremely heavy weights all day will train with 2 - 4 pound gloves. They get really tired really fast. Use your head man. I hope this isn't too hard to get your head around."
Your trying to bring in punching power
fair enough however dbz characters punching power is also lacking compared to dc and marvel power houses
these characters could shatter planets and even break the boundaries of space and time with their fist
dbz characters? mmm not so much"
Once again you managed to completely miss the point. Did you make it through high school yet? I never said anyone in DBZ was on par with DC's best. I think you are just retarded for claiming that any character in DC and Marvel would take Goku SSJ3. It is an ignorant thing to say that could only come out of a haters mouth."
not at all i know bardock could beat guys like captain america and batman without prep
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