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#1  Edited By cracks

Who and why?

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#2  Edited By geraldthesloth

Any universe buster

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Molecule man *blushes*
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#5  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Entropy and Insane Genis-Vell. Thanos with various objects of power (IG, HOTU). The Beyonder (PR). Living Tribunal. Just from the top of my head.
 
Reasons: most of them already did. Even though Genis believed Eternity wanted to die. But, he was Mad, after all.
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#6  Edited By Stormultt
@Morpheus_:
Genis was mentally ill was he not?
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#7  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Stormultt said:

" @Morpheus_: Genis was mentally ill was he not? "

His vast cosmic awareness drove him insane. 
 
Edit: At least, that is the short version. There is a more complex one.
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#8  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@Stormultt said:
" Molecule man *blushes* "
Why would that cause you to blush?
 

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#9  Edited By Stormultt
@Morpheus_:
Then i believe that's why...
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@Lance Uppercut: lol
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@Lance Uppercut:
CAUSE I FELT LIKE IT! and cause i'm hoping he's coming back in the siege saga. XD
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#12  Edited By Lance Uppercut
@Stormultt said:
" @Lance Uppercut: CAUSE I FELT LIKE IT! and cause i'm hoping he's coming back in the siege saga. XD "
I doubt that was Molecule Man. From what I remember, he wasn't some jacked up hippy with long hair, and he certainly wouldn't be helping Norman after what we've seen in the latest DA. It's probably X-Man or possibly Post Retcon Beyonder.
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#13  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Stormultt said:
" @Morpheus_: Then i believe that's why... "
Could be. The Mad God never fully explained his actions, and his motives, and words were always suspect.
 

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@Morpheus_:
Insane-genis, I alway's knew he was crazy just never got why and what drove him to it.
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@Lance Uppercut:
but didn't beyonder have short kinda curly black hair? and you never know molecule man can do universal things so why can't he grow his hair? I had my doubt's with it being the void though.
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#16  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Stormultt said:
" @Morpheus_: Insane-genis, I alway's knew he was crazy just never got why and what drove him to it. "
In truth, Entropy drove him mad by accelerating his connection with his cosmic awareness, because he required his help in order to destroy the Universe.
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#17  Edited By geraldthesloth
@Stormultt said:
" @Morpheus_: Insane-genis, I alway's knew he was crazy just never got why and what drove him to it. "
Omniversal awareness, he could hear everyone's thoughts and it drove him mad.
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#18  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@geraldthesloth said:
" @Stormultt said:
" @Morpheus_: Insane-genis, I alway's knew he was crazy just never got why and what drove him to it. "
Omniversal awareness, he could hear everyone's thoughts and it drove him mad. "
I think the main problem was that he knew every single consequence, of every single action every single being would make.
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#19  Edited By Stormultt
@Morpheus_:  
It's not surprising see the route genis was taking anyway.
 

@geraldthesloth:  
I think even before that when he had his encounter with thor he was getting a little ahead of himself and losing his mind. 
 
 
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#20  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Stormultt said:
" @Morpheus_:  
It's not surprising see the route genis was taking anyway.
 

@geraldthesloth:  I think even before that when he had his encounter with thor he was getting a little ahead of himself and losing his mind.    "
He was already mad when he invaded Asgard.
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#21  Edited By czarny_samael666
Mad Jim Jaspers, 
Jammie Brradock, 
Capitain Britain in full power,
Merlyn,
Hunger,
Anyone with Star Bands, 
WPOTC, 
Maybe Roma (if yeah,then fully power Adversary too),
Any multi-abstract,
The Fury,
Insane Gennis-vell
Sise-Neg
Korvac
Maybe The Infinities
Probably Shuma Gorath
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#22  Edited By Batosaims7
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
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Dont know about MJJ, everyon else probably
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#23  Edited By "Colossus"

Oblivion 
Entropy 
Abraxas 
(which all three represents the end of him)
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#24  Edited By czarny_samael666
@"Colossus" said:
" Oblivion Entropy Abraxas (which all three represents the end of him) "
Oblivion in the end of cycle, yeah. Abraxas, of course. But Entropy? I don't think so. She is vrey powerfull,but she only want destroy him,she can't do that.
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#25  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@czarny_samael said:
" @"Colossus" said:
" Oblivion Entropy Abraxas (which all three represents the end of him) "
Oblivion in the end of cycle, yeah. Abraxas, of course. But Entropy? I don't think so. She is vrey powerfull,but she only want destroy him,she can't do that. "
Entropy is a he. And he already killed Eternity with Genis-Vell's help, and replaced him.
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#26  Edited By czarny_samael666
@Morpheus_ said:
" @czarny_samael said:
" @"Colossus" said:
" Oblivion Entropy Abraxas (which all three represents the end of him) "
Oblivion in the end of cycle, yeah. Abraxas, of course. But Entropy? I don't think so. She is vrey powerfull,but she only want destroy him,she can't do that. "
Entropy is a he. And he already killed Eternity with Genis-Vell's help, and replaced him. "
1.Sorry.
2.Yeah, he did it with GV and I belive that most of this feat is going to GV,not to Entropy.
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@Batosaims7 said:
" @The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" Pre-Retcon Beyonder TOAA Presence  COIE Anti-MonitorLucifer Morningstar Pre-Retcon Molecule Man Living Tribunal Pre-Retcon Brothers  Mad Jim Jaspers WPOTC  Mr. Mxyzptlk Emperor Joker Zero-Hour ParallaxFull-Powered Galactus    There are many more "
Dont know about MJJ, everyon else probably "

MJJ is a reality warper on an omniversal scale. Eternity is an entity = Full-Powered Galactus. MJJ would pwn Galan with minimal effort.
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#28  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@czarny_samael said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @czarny_samael said:
" @"Colossus" said:
" Oblivion Entropy Abraxas (which all three represents the end of him) "
Oblivion in the end of cycle, yeah. Abraxas, of course. But Entropy? I don't think so. She is vrey powerfull,but she only want destroy him,she can't do that. "
Entropy is a he. And he already killed Eternity with Genis-Vell's help, and replaced him. "
1.Sorry. 2.Yeah, he did it with GV and I belive that most of this feat is going to GV,not to Entropy. "
 

Could be. Genis claimed he personally killed Eternity (scan posted here); he also believed Eternity was tired of his own existence, but Genis' words and perception while being Mad could hardly be trusted. It is true that Entropy did rely on Genis' assistance, however, since it was him who actually drove him mad - he needed his help to kill Eternity. In truth, since the feat was never shown on panel, we will never really know.

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#29  Edited By Satyrquaze
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
"Full-Powered Galactus    There are many more "

Really? I usually have him a step or so below the true Abstracts.
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Who can defeat Eternity? 
 
The department of motor vehicle waiting line.
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#31  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

Can we do team ups?
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#32  Edited By czarny_samael666
@Morpheus_ said:
" @czarny_samael said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @czarny_samael said:
" @"Colossus" said:
" Oblivion Entropy Abraxas (which all three represents the end of him) "
Oblivion in the end of cycle, yeah. Abraxas, of course. But Entropy? I don't think so. She is vrey powerfull,but she only want destroy him,she can't do that. "
Entropy is a he. And he already killed Eternity with Genis-Vell's help, and replaced him. "
1.Sorry. 2.Yeah, he did it with GV and I belive that most of this feat is going to GV,not to Entropy. "
 

Could be. Genis claimed he personally killed Eternity (scan posted here); he also believed Eternity was tired of his own existence, but Genis' words and perception while being Mad could hardly be trusted. It is true that Entropy did rely on Genis' assistance, however, since it was him who actually drove him mad - he needed his help to kill Eternity. In truth, since the feat was never shown on panel, we will never really know.

"
You're right, we will never know,but Entropy didn't denied it. Did he?  I think that this could be the only answer we can get...
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#33  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@czarny_samael said:
" @Morpheus_ said:
" @czarny_samael said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @czarny_samael said:
" @"Colossus" said:
" Oblivion Entropy Abraxas (which all three represents the end of him) "
Oblivion in the end of cycle, yeah. Abraxas, of course. But Entropy? I don't think so. She is vrey powerfull,but she only want destroy him,she can't do that. "
Entropy is a he. And he already killed Eternity with Genis-Vell's help, and replaced him. "
1.Sorry. 2.Yeah, he did it with GV and I belive that most of this feat is going to GV,not to Entropy. "
 

Could be. Genis claimed he personally killed Eternity (scan posted here); he also believed Eternity was tired of his own existence, but Genis' words and perception while being Mad could hardly be trusted. It is true that Entropy did rely on Genis' assistance, however, since it was him who actually drove him mad - he needed his help to kill Eternity. In truth, since the feat was never shown on panel, we will never really know.

"
You're right, we will never know,but Entropy didn't denied it. Did he?  I think that this could be the only answer we can get... "
No, Entropy didn't comment anything on the matter.
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Did someone say that Galactus at full power can defeat Eternity? I forgot where someone said that. 

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#35  Edited By "Colossus"
@cracks said:
" Did someone say that Galactus at full power can defeat Eternity? I forgot where someone said that.  "
o_o
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#36  Edited By cracks
@"Colossus": Exactly.
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#37  Edited By Tevnoba
@cracks said:
" Did someone say that Galactus at full power can defeat Eternity? I forgot where someone said that.  "
Yes, it has been said here on the vine, but it is a mis-nomer.  For Galactus to be full-power, all life would have to be consumed.  Then only Galactus would exist and he would be the only thing of Eternity.
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#38  Edited By cracks
@Tevnoba: So that explains why Galactus has never been portrayed at full power because there would be no life.  What would the Phoenix Force do about that; Galactus consuming all life? 
 
"he would be the only thing of Eternity."  Sorry, but what exactly do you mean here? Are you saying that he would be Eternity at that point?
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#39  Edited By Tevnoba
@cracks said:
" @Tevnoba: So that explains why Galactus has never been portrayed at full power because there would be no life.  What would the Phoenix Force do about that; Galactus consuming all life?   "he would be the only thing of Eternity."  Sorry, but what exactly do you mean here? Are you saying that he would be Eternity at that point? "
The Phoenix would not be present in that universe, until Eternity was consumed by Oblivion, which would happen shortly after Galactus consumed the total of life in the universe.  Then after the big crunch the Phoenix would restart the cycle.
 
Galactus is not an abstract (like Eternity/Infinity, Love/Hate, Chaos/Order, Death/Oblivion) because he is part of Eternity as he is a living being (living  energy).  Therefore, if he absorbed all the rest of the life in the universe, only space, time and himself would exist.  He would not be Eternity, but he would be the only living thing in Eternity.
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#40  Edited By cracks
@Tevnoba:  I see. Thanks.
 
You said that the Phoenix Force is multiversal right? Does that mean she can be in many places at the same time? That befuddles me. 
 
The Living Tirbunal and The One Above All are both abstracts as well right? The Phoenix Force as well?
 
So the Phoenix Force is above Galactus (at full power) then. Yes?
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GOOD ONE

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#42  Edited By Tevnoba
@cracks said:

" @Tevnoba:  I see. Thanks.  You said that the Phoenix Force is multiversal right? Does that mean she can be in many places at the same time? That befuddles me.   The Living Tirbunal and The One Above All are both abstracts as well right? The Phoenix Force as well?  So the Phoenix Force is above Galactus (at full power) then. Yes? "

There is a difference between Omniversal and Multiversal. Multiversal is the ability for you to transcend the universe you are in and effect things in another universe directly (i.e. Owen Reece in Secret Wars II fixing multiversal damage (with his finger) without going anywhere).
Omniversal is being everywhere in the universe at the same time (even if your presence is not felt or seen).  Also, Omnidimensional is existing as a singular being and having your being exist in all dimensions and universes all the time.
 
The Living Tribunal could be considered an abstract as it represents the judgment of TOAA and is not 'alive' in a traditional sense.  TOAA is not an abstract like the others because he does not represent an ideal or concept, however it could be argued that TOAA is like unto an abstract of the marvel abstracts like they are to us (one point of view).
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#43  Edited By thedeman87
@Fortified_Hooligan:  
 
LMAO
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#44  Edited By krisboyz781

jessus

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#45  Edited By mrwenpire
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
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absolutely right
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#46  Edited By gobstakid777
@The Mjolnir Wielder said:
" Pre-Retcon Beyonder TOAA Presence  COIE Anti-MonitorLucifer Morningstar Pre-Retcon Molecule Man Living Tribunal Pre-Retcon Brothers  Mad Jim Jaspers WPOTC  Mr. Mxyzptlk Emperor Joker Zero-Hour ParallaxFull-Powered Galactus    There are many more "
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#47  Edited By Baldy

Goku would curbstomp eternity.

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#48  Edited By dane

Any character written by Jeph Loeb.

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#49  Edited By Argentino_18

Krona he could bust two universes
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#50  Edited By mrwenpire

   
Fully-powered Galactus CANNOT beat Eternity.  At first I thought he could.  But I later found out that was not the case.