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The fusion is composed of Superman Prime One Million and Super Saiyan God Goku.

Rules

• Everyone is morals on

• Random encounter

• no unfair powerups or characters

• the fusion is with the Potara earrings

• Fusion gets Senzu Beans and Green Lantern Ring

• your character cannot be a fusion

• fight to the death or KO

• Bfr is not allowed

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Superman Prime One Million doesn't add anything aside from Post-Crisis Superman's feats.

Your fusion is basically Superman + SSJG Goku.

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Composite Homer Simpson. (Homer as Death with time machine and monkey's paw that grants any wish).

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  • Thanos
  • X-Man
  • Adam Warlock
  • Despero
  • Fernus
  • Alan Scott

Just to name a few.

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#7  Edited By Bluejay4

@mysticmedivh: so would a ssj4 Gogeta and Silver Age Superman fusion>>>>my fusion?

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@bluejay4: SA Superman would defeat your fusion. Even Martian Manhunter would.

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@mysticmedivh: but don't both have TP shielding? And what's stopping the fusion from blitzing?

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@bluejay4: Not that I recall of, no. MMH is no slouch. All he needs is telepathy to drop your fusion.

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@bluejay4: Not that I recall of, no. MMH is no slouch. All he needs is telepathy to drop your fusion.

Goku has never really been assaulted with TP that I can recall(unless it was in one of the movies) but he has used TP himself so it's reasonable to assume he has some form of TP defense.

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@randomsid: Putting his hand on Krillin's head (who has no TP resistance) and reading his mind is hardly comparable to Martian Manhunter.

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@randomsid: Putting his hand on Krillin's head (who has no TP resistance) and reading his mind is hardly comparable to Martian Manhunter.

There is more than just that for his TP. And I didn't say it was comparable to Martian Manhunter either.

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@mysticmedivh said:

@bluejay4: Not that I recall of, no. MMH is no slouch. All he needs is telepathy to drop your fusion.

Goku has never really been assaulted with TP that I can recall(unless it was in one of the movies) but he has used TP himself so it's reasonable to assume he has some form of TP defense.

J'onn is casually and very easily on a planetary scale in telepathy.Goku must have very,very high TP resistance or else he gets TP'd non-chalantly like the JLA

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@randomsid: Putting his hand on Krillin's head (who has no TP resistance) and reading his mind is hardly comparable to Martian Manhunter.

There is more than just that for his TP. And I didn't say it was comparable to Martian Manhunter either.

That's all I recalled, tell me about his other TP feats.

No, you didn't say that. What I should have said was based off of that TP feat, which is the only one to my knowledge, it's not really worth mentioning.

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@reaverlation: If you can equate sensing chi to telepathic range, Goku managed to sense the Namekians on New Namek when they were thousands of light years away. Other than that, he doesn't have any feats.

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@reaverlation: If you can equate sensing chi to telepathic range, Goku managed to sense the Namekians on New Namek when they were thousands of light years away. Other than that, he doesn't have any feats.

Ki is spiritual energy. I'd say soul =/= mind in that regard.

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@randomsid said:
@mysticmedivh said:

@randomsid: Putting his hand on Krillin's head (who has no TP resistance) and reading his mind is hardly comparable to Martian Manhunter.

There is more than just that for his TP. And I didn't say it was comparable to Martian Manhunter either.

That's all I recalled, tell me about his other TP feats.

No, you didn't say that. What I should have said was based off of that TP feat, which is the only one to my knowledge, it's not really worth mentioning.

Most of the times he has done the spirit bomb he has shown telepathy in asking for energy from the people of the planet. I don't remember them all off the top of my head though. But, like I said, I do not believe it ranks up there with Martian Manhunter. I'll have to look them up when I get a chance so I can show scans.

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#23  Edited By MrUnsmiley

@mysticmedivh said:
@mrunsmiley said:

@reaverlation: If you can equate sensing chi to telepathic range, Goku managed to sense the Namekians on New Namek when they were thousands of light years away. Other than that, he doesn't have any feats.

Ki is spiritual energy. I'd say soul =/= mind in that regard.

Doesn't really matter in the long run. Superman's TP feats have always been better than Goku's, and if MMH could get past Supes' defenses, anything Goku brought to the table wouldn't matter.

Course, Superman knows J'onn's weakness, and assuming Superman Prime One Million is faster than Red Son, who IIRC was several times faster than the speed of thought, MMH would get terribly speedblitzed before he could understand what happened.

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@mysticmedivh said:
@randomsid said:
@mysticmedivh said:

@randomsid: Putting his hand on Krillin's head (who has no TP resistance) and reading his mind is hardly comparable to Martian Manhunter.

There is more than just that for his TP. And I didn't say it was comparable to Martian Manhunter either.

That's all I recalled, tell me about his other TP feats.

No, you didn't say that. What I should have said was based off of that TP feat, which is the only one to my knowledge, it's not really worth mentioning.

Most of the times he has done the spirit bomb he has shown telepathy in asking for energy from the people of the planet. I don't remember them all off the top of my head though. But, like I said, I do not believe it ranks up there with Martian Manhunter. I'll have to look them up when I get a chance so I can show scans.

Didn't he have King Kai and Supreme Kai broadcasting?

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@randomsid said:
@mysticmedivh said:
@randomsid said:
@mysticmedivh said:

@randomsid: Putting his hand on Krillin's head (who has no TP resistance) and reading his mind is hardly comparable to Martian Manhunter.

There is more than just that for his TP. And I didn't say it was comparable to Martian Manhunter either.

That's all I recalled, tell me about his other TP feats.

No, you didn't say that. What I should have said was based off of that TP feat, which is the only one to my knowledge, it's not really worth mentioning.

Most of the times he has done the spirit bomb he has shown telepathy in asking for energy from the people of the planet. I don't remember them all off the top of my head though. But, like I said, I do not believe it ranks up there with Martian Manhunter. I'll have to look them up when I get a chance so I can show scans.

Didn't he have King Kai and Supreme Kai broadcasting?

The first time, but not all of the times. Especially the one he did against Buu. If I'm not mistaken that was all Vegeta. Granted Vegeta is not Goku but they have both shown TP(just not on Martian Manhunters scale).

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@randomsid said:
@mysticmedivh said:
@randomsid said:
@mysticmedivh said:

@randomsid: Putting his hand on Krillin's head (who has no TP resistance) and reading his mind is hardly comparable to Martian Manhunter.

There is more than just that for his TP. And I didn't say it was comparable to Martian Manhunter either.

That's all I recalled, tell me about his other TP feats.

No, you didn't say that. What I should have said was based off of that TP feat, which is the only one to my knowledge, it's not really worth mentioning.

Most of the times he has done the spirit bomb he has shown telepathy in asking for energy from the people of the planet. I don't remember them all off the top of my head though. But, like I said, I do not believe it ranks up there with Martian Manhunter. I'll have to look them up when I get a chance so I can show scans.

Didn't he have King Kai and Supreme Kai broadcasting?

Just King Kai, widespread communication wasn't in Kibitokai's skillset.

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@mysticmedivh said:
@randomsid said:
@mysticmedivh said:
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@randomsid: Putting his hand on Krillin's head (who has no TP resistance) and reading his mind is hardly comparable to Martian Manhunter.

There is more than just that for his TP. And I didn't say it was comparable to Martian Manhunter either.

That's all I recalled, tell me about his other TP feats.

No, you didn't say that. What I should have said was based off of that TP feat, which is the only one to my knowledge, it's not really worth mentioning.

Most of the times he has done the spirit bomb he has shown telepathy in asking for energy from the people of the planet. I don't remember them all off the top of my head though. But, like I said, I do not believe it ranks up there with Martian Manhunter. I'll have to look them up when I get a chance so I can show scans.

Didn't he have King Kai and Supreme Kai broadcasting?

The first time, but not all of the times. Especially the one he did against Buu. If I'm not mistaken that was all Vegeta. Granted Vegeta is not Goku but they have both shown TP(just not on Martian Manhunters scale).

He actually need the Kai's every time.

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@reaverlation: If you can equate sensing chi to telepathic range, Goku managed to sense the Namekians on New Namek when they were thousands of light years away. Other than that, he doesn't have any feats.

Ki is spiritual energy. I'd say soul =/= mind in that regard.

Doesn't really matter in the long run. Superman's TP feats have always been better than Goku's, and if MMH could get past Supes' defenses, anything Goku brought to the table wouldn't matter.

Course, Superman knows J'onn's weakness, and assuming Superman Prime One Million is faster than Red Son, who IIRC was several times faster than the speed of thought, MMH would get terribly speedblitzed before he could understand what happened.

J'onn fought a bloodlusted Barry Allen evenly.Getting speed blitzed would be difficult against J'onn.

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@reaverlation said:
@randomsid said:
@mysticmedivh said:
@randomsid said:
@mysticmedivh said:
@randomsid said:
@mysticmedivh said:

@randomsid: Putting his hand on Krillin's head (who has no TP resistance) and reading his mind is hardly comparable to Martian Manhunter.

There is more than just that for his TP. And I didn't say it was comparable to Martian Manhunter either.

That's all I recalled, tell me about his other TP feats.

No, you didn't say that. What I should have said was based off of that TP feat, which is the only one to my knowledge, it's not really worth mentioning.

Most of the times he has done the spirit bomb he has shown telepathy in asking for energy from the people of the planet. I don't remember them all off the top of my head though. But, like I said, I do not believe it ranks up there with Martian Manhunter. I'll have to look them up when I get a chance so I can show scans.

Didn't he have King Kai and Supreme Kai broadcasting?

The first time, but not all of the times. Especially the one he did against Buu. If I'm not mistaken that was all Vegeta. Granted Vegeta is not Goku but they have both shown TP(just not on Martian Manhunters scale).

He actually need the Kai's every time.

I don't believe he did, I'm looking for the scan right now.

Edit: I was wrong. When they brought the people back to life one of them was King Kai and he helped Vegeta talk to everyone on Earth.

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@mysticmedivh said:
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@reaverlation: If you can equate sensing chi to telepathic range, Goku managed to sense the Namekians on New Namek when they were thousands of light years away. Other than that, he doesn't have any feats.

Ki is spiritual energy. I'd say soul =/= mind in that regard.

Doesn't really matter in the long run. Superman's TP feats have always been better than Goku's, and if MMH could get past Supes' defenses, anything Goku brought to the table wouldn't matter.

Course, Superman knows J'onn's weakness, and assuming Superman Prime One Million is faster than Red Son, who IIRC was several times faster than the speed of thought, MMH would get terribly speedblitzed before he could understand what happened.

J'onn fought a bloodlusted Barry Allen evenly.Getting speed blitzed would be difficult against J'onn.

Barry Allen didn't have heat vision, super strength, or powers similar to Mxy's, and even then that would be suggesting that he could outpace a 15,000-year sundipped Superman. J'onn doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell.

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#33  Edited By Bluejay4

@mrunsmiley: this fusion doesn't have similar powers to Mxy though...

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#34  Edited By MrUnsmiley

@mysticmedivh: Superman Prime One Million does.

@bluejay4: Why wouldn't he? The fusion should have whatever powers each individual has.

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SMP1M has no feats that suggests he's better than an ant.

My choice? Composite Ryu (Street Fighter) in Pandora Mode, plus Dark Hadou, Power of Nothingness, and Herald Enhancement (from UMvC3), granted the Blue and Green Lantern Rings, Mjolnir (+ Power of Thor), Captain America's Shield, Mr. Majestic's Exo-Frame, and the Infinity Gauntlet.

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SMP1M has no feats that suggests he's better than an ant.

My choice? Composite Ryu (Street Fighter) in Pandora Mode, plus Dark Hadou, Power of Nothingness, and Herald Enhancement (from UMvC3), granted the Blue and Green Lantern Rings, Mjolnir (+ Power of Thor), Captain America's Shield, Mr. Majestic's Exo-Frame, and the Infinity Gauntlet.

He's Superman, with 80,000 years of experience, and 15,000 years of having been sundipped, as well as a Green Lantern ring.

Next time, you might want to read up on a character before making rash assumptions.

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@mrunsmiley: He has no proven 5D powers. Whether he has a ring or not is also questionable since he only used it in the first place due to circumstantial events and given the fact that he was shown with one for literally one page and never depicted to have one afterwards.

And he should only have 70,000 years of experience since he sundipped for 15,000 years.

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@mysticmedivh: Doubt it, Goku can intercept conversations galaxies and dimensions away. Bibidi was able to enter the mind of everyone on the planet. MM is not easily mind raping anyone.

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@mysticmedivh: Doubt it, Goku can intercept conversations galaxies and dimensions away. Bibidi was able to enter the mind of everyone on the planet. MM is not easily mind raping anyone.

The only cross-galactic conversations I recall are with King Kai acting as a broadcaster. So he entered Goku's mind too? And I think you mean Babidi.

MMH easily enters his mind.

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@mrunsmiley: He has no proven 5D powers. Whether he has a ring or not is also questionable since he only used it in the first place due to circumstantial events and given the fact that he was shown with one for literally one page and never depicted to have one afterwards.

And he should only have 70,000 years of experience since he sundipped for 15,000 years.

For the record, I think the years of experience stop mattering once he passes the millennial mark. Don't know why you're contesting that.

You're also arguing that just because he never used the ring again, he therefore no longer has it. Superman, the guy who makes a habit of keeping various objects in his headquarters the same way Batman does.

Either way, this is drifting off topic. J'onn gets murderstomped: even if he could effortlessly destroy modern day Supes, SPOM has no established limits that even suggest he could lose to someone at J'onn's level, and that's not even taking into consideration Goku's abilities, though he may as well not be there for all the difference it would make.

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@mrunsmiley: Wow. You just made yourself look like a fool.

There is absolutely no proof of his 80,000 years of experience. There is also absolutely no proof of his claimed yet unseen powers.

Telling me to "read-up" on a character whom you've just proven you know very little about is bewildering. Next time, you might want to get your facts straight before attacking someone else who actually knows what he's talking about.

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@mrunsmiley: If we're going by most current versions, then he has no ring on his finger. Assuming he has it tucked away, OP would have to give him some time to go and get it.

In theory? Sure. SPOM should be able to win.

By feats? No.

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@bluejay4: I see. He hasn't done much with the Ring though. Doesn't change the outcome.

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#50  Edited By MrUnsmiley

@mrunsmiley: Wow. You just made yourself look like a fool.

There is absolutely no proof of his 80,000 years of experience. There is also absolutely no proof of his claimed yet unseen powers.

Telling me to "read-up" on a character whom you've just proven you know very little about is bewildering. Next time, you might want to get your facts straight before attacking someone else who actually knows what he's talking about.

His experience is stated, and if you want proof of his powers, go look them up yourself. I'm not attacking you, I'm telling you to stop making such ridiculous blanket statements when you clearly don't have the evidence to back them up. It's funny how you said you know what you're talking about, when you just proved you didn't.

@mysticmedivh Feats only account for so much, and we have to use common sense to extrapolate. SP broke through the Source Wall, and had reason to believe he could stop a reality from collapsing. That pretty heavily implies that he's done it before, and given his interaction with the Source, it's reasonable.