Who can beat this amalgamation?

Amalgamation:

Firestorm + Nate Grey

Who is the weakest character that could defeat him?

I know that omnipotent can beat him, so please don't say TOAA or Spectre or something like that

someone along the line is gonna say morals off wally west... but no.. he can't beat this amalgam :D

i was thinking goku, but i think he'd get slaughtered too now.

kid goku will win with his power pole

did he get a new power up?

nope.. i literally meant goku as a kid.... simply because he's cool XD

I know some one but I don't feel like posting it ..

@thenewbluebeetle007:

how about a skyfather being.. such as odin?.. though i don't know which process he can take the amalgam down... how good would the amalgam do against high powered magic? (how good is FS against magic?)

no.. harley quinn won't defeat this amalgam

Amalgam of Captain Atom and Monarch.

Or Batman. But he's not the weakest so...

@ssj_god:

@ssj_god: firestorm once trapped zatanna in an anti magic bubble

@ssj_god said:

@sodamyat said:

@ssj_god said:

@sodamyat said:

i was thinking goku, but i think he'd get slaughtered too now.

kid goku will win with his power pole

did he get a new power up?

nope.. i literally meant goku as a kid.... simply because he's cool XD

ohhhhh, its a super fan thing lol I thought you were being serious.

doesn't monarch already have every ability of atom?... what's the point of amalgamation then?... and by which process it's gonna take down op amalgam?

well.. then it'd at least have some defense against high level magic... enough to hold the attack and go for counter i think

Oh right. Monarch used to be Cap. Atom. Was thinking Atom beat Firestorm and Monarch beat Nate.

the question still stands :D

by which process it's gonna take down op amalgam?

By this.

Itachi with Yata Mirror & Totsuka, Loki, and Batman but these guys are not weak

lol.. i see most of the people saying nate wins by TPing all of then..... no feat was shown there.. on which i asked you

by which process it's gonna take down op amalgam?

Dark Schneider.

Really? Because when I read it, the general consensus is he stops at 3. Some said he clears or he stops anywhere. I don't know Nate inside out so can't really tell you anything other than what I've heard from there. :(

I highly doubt DS is the weakest person who could beat this amalgam... and if he is, this is one powerful amalgam.

yeah... if you only consider first few comments..lol... i'm not saying monarch can't defeat nate... actually, monarch is well above shaman nate in power grid (btw.. shaman nate isn't nate's full potential)... since nate is a very versatile character, and can dodge out many abilities... i just asked you a simple question

by which process monarch is gonna take down nate grey?.. or in this thread.... the op amalgam?

Really? Because some people from the last page believed Monarch should beat Nate Grey. I'm guessing Monarch can manipulate the same power that he used to create or (was it implode?) universe to absorb or kill Nate.

@hatemalingsia:

what does this means? @_@

Monarch can manipulate the same power that he used to create or (was it implode?) universe to absorb or kill Nate.

i'm lost... what's the process again?

Hmmm. I'm just going with what I know of Monarch but not Nate, keep that in mind. He kills Nate by starting a void reaction inside his body. He kills Nate by destroying the universe the same way he recreated one when he tried to revive something ( I forget what it was). Destroyed (or was it changed) reality , although this was when he was in Quantum Universe. Don't know if Nate can get out of the astral plane, if not Monarch BFR him to there. Use his quantum powers to absorb Nate. He kills him by that one energy blast that ripping the fabric of the space (time?) continuum or something along those lines.

Could PSI-Lord do it?

nate doesn't need a physical body to exist.. can exist as a psionic being or can even exist on people's memories = attacks that affects body, won't do anything

nate is a psionic being, with complete control over psionic plane (astral plane is considered psionic plane in marvel)... he draws his energy from astral plane.. so he'd literally have limitless supply of energy on astral plane = fighting on astral plane would end up in nate's favor

nate have very strong precognition... he'd see universe getting destroyed beforehand and will simply jump to another universe = no, universe destruction won't kill him.

and finally.. nate is a reality hopper... it is impossible to bfr him.. on the other hand.. he can try to bfr monarch to another reality, or outside of reality... can monarch hop reality if nate does that? :D

now keeping these informations i provided in mind... tell me precisely by which process monarch gonna take nate down?

finally......... the post disappeared last two times i posted..lol

Well I didn't know who any of the 2 in the OP is. Therefore, I made a rough estimation with someone who's neither omnipotent nor nigh-omnipotent but can beat those tiers around. XD DS is convinient to fit the criterea set in the OP. He is almost a carbon copy of classic Dr. Strange. In other words, a Sorcerer Supreme. DS has taken over the body of Satan, and magic restricted became a cosmic entity. His spells are powerful enough to rival big bang etc.

@ssj_god:

Don't want to derail this thread. Since this is just Nate and Monarch lol. I already tag you in here.

and i replied :)

Cool so I can learn more. :D

Batman with prep.

nope he can't

resist = not immune

Hank Pym

Dr Doom with prep

Galactus

he resisted psionic assault.. he broke her control over him once...he's not immune to it.. can't say what would've happen if she continued that.

anyway.. i'm not very knowledgeable on mind gem... can you tell me what it's feats are?

and btw.. firestorm and nate grey, both are vastly powerful energy manipulator... no one can say this amalgam can't drain off SS instead (quasar drained off surfer before)

This badass will destroy everyone.

@citizensentry said:

This badass will destroy everyone.

cool picture

can't do a thing against op amalgam though

maj

who?

@ssj_god: majestros

how?

I have little to no idea at all what the amalgamation can do.

But do his attacks have vectors?

I may be overshooting a little here lol.

@ssj_god: all he needs is a few seconds prep or he could just cut the amalgam apart with his creation blades