Who can beat Lucifer Morningstar?

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#1  Edited By Nelomaxwell

I mean I know. MOM and TOAA and The Presence  but is there anyone else (This includes teams as well. I'm only asking cause Lucifer seems to be the new unstoppable force Ala Mr. Majestic and Kal Kent.)

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#2  Edited By Scarbearer

Well There's always Archangel Michael who already kicked him out of Heaven.  Though he's generally a character that most comics tap dance around portraying I'm pretty sure he's shown up somewhere though :P

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#4  Edited By Cosmic_Falcon

Living Tribunal
Ellaine Belloc
Pre Retcon Beyonder 
Great Evil Beast

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#5  Edited By Achilles.

 

  • Living Tribunal
  • Pre-Crisis Molecule Man
  • Pre-Crisis Beyonder
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#6  Edited By Supreme Marvel

There is a tier list. I don't fully know Marvels one. But for me DCs ones goes like this.
 
Tier 1

  • The Presence

Tier 2 

  • Elaine Belloc
    Monitor-Mind

Tier 3

  • Meshta
  • The Great Evil Beast
  • Rama Kushna
  • The Source
  • Synnar
  • Ultimate Darkness
  • Ultimate Light

Tier 4

  • Lucifer Morningstar (So the ones above and Michael can beat him. Everything below can't.)
  • Michael Demiurgos (I still believe Michael will still beat him)
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#7  Edited By Nelomaxwell
@Supreme Marvel: When you say Ultimate Darkness and Light who are you referring to (Sorry I'm green in some areas)
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#8  Edited By DeathsHead2
@Nelomaxwell: 
 
"Full Powered" GALACTUS! 
 
; ) 
 
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#9  Edited By Supreme Marvel
@DeathsHead2 said:
" @Nelomaxwell:  "Full Powered" GALACTUS!  ; )   "
That's a no. Galactus, to me is below Spectre or close to him maybe. And Lucifer will make mincemeat of the Spectre. 
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#10  Edited By Supreme Marvel
@Nelomaxwell said:
" @Supreme Marvel: When you say Ultimate Darkness and Light who are you referring to (Sorry I'm green in some areas) "
Didn't realise I still had them on. I copied it from one of my files I had.  I think if I recall, it's UD is The Great Evil Beast and UL is The presence. Morph might be able to clarify.
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#11  Edited By BlessedbyHorus

what about a full powered Mikaboshi or osthur?
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#12  Edited By Nelomaxwell
@Supreme Marvel:  I thought you mean the darkness and Angelus.
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#13  Edited By DeathsHead2
@Supreme Marvel: 
 
Underestimating GALACTUS here would be a mistake.  A mistake the arrogant Lucifer would make, and "live" to regret! 
 
I've learned the hard way on these boards that you do NOT underestimate GALACTUS, especially at FULL POWER! 
 
; ) 
 

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#14  Edited By Supreme Marvel
@DeathsHead2 said:
" @Supreme Marvel:  Underestimating GALACTUS here would be a mistake.  A mistake the arrogant Lucifer would make, and "live" to regret!  I've learned the hard way on these boards that you do NOT underestimate GALACTUS, especially at FULL POWER!  ; )   "
Been done on this thread many a times. Galactus always came close but lost to Spectre. Lucifer is way way above Spectre in power. Lucifer would eat Galactus.
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#15  Edited By DeathsHead2
@Supreme Marvel: 
 
Okay then, I've got someone better... 
 
Divine Spawn! 
 
; ) 
 

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#16  Edited By Nelomaxwell
@DeathsHead2:  Been Done too, Divine Spawn lost. Al though I'm not sure how.
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#17  Edited By buttersdaman000
@Supreme Marvel: I would put Micheal and Lucifer between the two tier two's and then I would put Micheal above Lucifer
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#18  Edited By BlessedbyHorus

Mad Jim Jasper? 
 
White Crown Phoenix?
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#19  Edited By Nelomaxwell

Lucifer would eat WCP@King-Stranglehold da first:

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#20  Edited By ThanoStomp

With enough prep..... 
 
Reed Richards 
Thanos 
Dr. Doom  
Classic Dr. Strange
there are others... 

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#21  Edited By nefarious

The Man of Miracles. 

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#22  Edited By industrious

I've got 7 names that can beat Lucifer. Hint: They all start with "D".

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#23  Edited By MrDirector786

Goku and Vegeta

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#24  Edited By Supreme Marvel
@Nefarious said:
" The Man of Miracles.  "
If that's the Endless, they have no power over him.
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#25  Edited By Supreme Marvel
@Nefarious said:

" The Man of Miracles.  "

  @Nelomaxwell said:

" I mean I know. MOMand TOAA and The Presence  but is there anyone else "

Already mentioned that.
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#26  Edited By Valtot
@MrDirector786 said:
"Goku and Vegeta "

no they cant
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#27  Edited By Supreme Marvel
@Valtot said:
" @MrDirector786 said:
"Goku and Vegeta "
no they cant "
I think he may have been joking.
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#28  Edited By nefarious
@Supreme Marvel: Death of the Endless? 
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#29  Edited By Valtot
@Nefarious:
no lucifer already said he was beyond death or something on those lines
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@ThanoStomp said:
" With enough prep.....  Reed Richards...  "
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#32  Edited By ThanoStomp
@High Revolutionary:    That's awesome!   Please tell me I'm the first to earn Scathan's thumb down.
 
I noticed you didn't add Thanos, Doom and Strange.  Curious......
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#33  Edited By MrDirector786
@Valtot said:
" @MrDirector786 said:
"Goku and Vegeta "
no they cant "
I was joking when I said that.
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Protege 

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#35  Edited By SSJjanemba

superman!

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#36  Edited By BlessedbyHorus
@Nelomaxwell said:
"Lucifer would eat WCP @King-Stranglehold da first: "

I disgaree. 
 
She is almost on pairs with the LT.
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Saint of killers
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#38  Edited By MrDirector786
@King-Stranglehold da first said:
" @Nelomaxwell said:
"Lucifer would eat WCP @King-Stranglehold da first: "
I disgaree.  She is almost on pairs with the LT. "
Lucifer could probably beat LT too.
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#39  Edited By Dracade102

World's Funniest Mxyzptlk / Bat-mite... 
Probably Thanos w/ the Infinity Gauntlet... 
And more than likely the Silver Age Justice League.

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#40  Edited By MrDirector786
@Dracade102 said:
" World's Funniest Mxyzptlk / Bat-mite... Probably Thanos w/ the Infinity Gauntlet... And more than likely the Silver Age Justice League. "
Not sure about WF Mxy and Batmite but no way Thanos with IG or the SA JLA wins though.
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#41  Edited By BlessedbyHorus
@MrDirector786 said:
" @King-Stranglehold da first said:
" @Nelomaxwell said:
"Lucifer would eat WCP @King-Stranglehold da first: "
I disgaree.  She is almost on pairs with the LT. "
Lucifer could probably beat LT too. "

Yeah probably
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#42  Edited By Dracade102
@MrDirector786 said:
" @Dracade102 said:
" World's Funniest Mxyzptlk / Bat-mite... Probably Thanos w/ the Infinity Gauntlet... And more than likely the Silver Age Justice League. "
Not sure about WF Mxy and Batmite but no way Thanos with IG or the SA JLA wins though. "
WF Mxy + Bat-mite destroyed the Multiverse, Fifth Dimension, Phantom Zone and everything else and put it back together again... I'm pretty sure they should win this.
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#43  Edited By _Zombie_

My list would be God-Spawn, Thanos, Superboy Prime, possibly Hulk.  Also, despite this being borderline(if not full-blown 
OP'ing.. Onslaught.

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#44  Edited By MrDirector786
@ZombieBigfoot said:
" My list would be God-Spawn, Thanos, Superboy Prime, possibly Hulk.  Also, despite this being borderline(if not full-blown OP'ing.. Onslaught. "
How are any of those guys going to do anything to Lucifer? He'd blink them all out of existence.
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#45  Edited By Supreme Marvel
@Dracade102 said:

" World's Funniest Mxyzptlk / Bat-mite... Probably Thanos w/ the Infinity Gauntlet... And more than likely the Silver Age Justice League. "

None of them would. And I think Phantom pointed out a reason for why the IG wouldn't work.
 
@MrDirector786 said:

" @King-Stranglehold da first said:

" @Nelomaxwell said:

"Lucifer would eat WCP @King-Stranglehold da first: "
I disgaree.  She is almost on pairs with the LT. "
Lucifer could probably beat LT too. "
 
Actually I think LT is the only one I've seen that could beat him, despite naming the obvious names.
 

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" My list would be God-Spawn, Thanos, Superboy Prime, possibly Hulk.  Also, despite this being borderline(if not full-blown OP'ing.. Onslaught. "

I don't know the full power of God Spawn, so I can't speculate on him. However the rest you named will be a no. I really, really, really hope you were joking about the Hulk thing.
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#46  Edited By TheFallenOne

If this is regular Lucifer anyone at universal + level so basicly every major multiversal powerhouse. Lucifer with Demiurgic power is another story but again he isn't on par with multiversal heavy-hitters (claim that he created the multiverse was a writer's mistake)
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#47  Edited By _Zombie_
@Supreme Marvel said:
" @Dracade102 said:

" World's Funniest Mxyzptlk / Bat-mite... Probably Thanos w/ the Infinity Gauntlet... And more than likely the Silver Age Justice League. "

None of them would. And I think Phantom pointed out a reason for why the IG wouldn't work.
 
@MrDirector786 said:

" @King-Stranglehold da first said:

" @Nelomaxwell said:

"Lucifer would eat WCP @King-Stranglehold da first: "
I disgaree.  She is almost on pairs with the LT. "
Lucifer could probably beat LT too. "
 
Actually I think LT is the only one I've seen that could beat him, despite naming the obvious names.
 

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" My list would be God-Spawn, Thanos, Superboy Prime, possibly Hulk.  Also, despite this being borderline(if not full-blown OP'ing.. Onslaught. "

I don't know the full power of God Spawn, so I can't speculate on him. However the rest you named will be a no. I really, really, really hope you were joking about the Hulk thing. "

 
Nah, the Hulk thing was a joke.  I may not be a super-hardcore nerd.. but I'm no idiot.  Hulk would be a tiny distraction for about ten seconds, if even that.. then he'd go poof.  God-Spawn though(I can't find sans of the God arc right now, and my local library hates me.) could probably do it.  God and Satan teamed up to put him down, going so far as to combine their armies.  God-Spawn whiped the Earth clean of lfe in one blast of power.  That's the extent of his power pretty much.  Though  I can't remember exactly if he destroyed God and Satan, or just rendered them powerless.  It's been some time since Iread it.
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#48  Edited By CosmicSpiral
@ZombieBigfoot said: 
Nah, the Hulk thing was a joke.  I may not be a super-hardcore nerd.. but I'm no idiot.  Hulk would be a tiny distraction for about ten seconds, if even that.. then he'd go poof.  God-Spawn though(I can't find sans of the God arc right now, and my local library hates me.) could probably do it.  God and Satan teamed up to put him down, going so far as to combine their armies.  God-Spawn whiped the Earth clean of lfe in one blast of power.  That's the extent of his power pretty much.  Though  I can't remember exactly if he destroyed God and Satan, or just rendered them powerless.  It's been some time since Iread it. "
He trapped them in some alternate dimension, and they squabbled for the rest of eternity.  
 
Only people with actual inherent omnipotence can beat him. 
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#49  Edited By Thor's hammmer

LT, Michael, Overmonitor, ellaine, GEB, Nemises, PR Molecule man, PR Beyonder, Thought Robot, Amalgam Brothers, Protege, scathan maybe, last planet standing Galactus, DR Solar, maybe SuperGod Hercules or antimonitor. maybe the Fulcrum the HOTU, the staff of polar power.
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