#1 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10368 posts) - - Show Bio

I mean I know. MOM and TOAA and The Presence  but is there anyone else (This includes teams as well. I'm only asking cause Lucifer seems to be the new unstoppable force Ala Mr. Majestic and Kal Kent.)

#2 Posted by Scarbearer (726 posts) - - Show Bio

Well There's always Archangel Michael who already kicked him out of Heaven.  Though he's generally a character that most comics tap dance around portraying I'm pretty sure he's shown up somewhere though :P

#3 Posted by demifiend (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

pikachu

#4 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2039 posts) - - Show Bio

Living Tribunal
Ellaine Belloc
Pre Retcon Beyonder 
Great Evil Beast

#5 Posted by Achilles. (3847 posts) - - Show Bio

 

  • Living Tribunal
  • Pre-Crisis Molecule Man
  • Pre-Crisis Beyonder
#6 Edited by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio

There is a tier list. I don't fully know Marvels one. But for me DCs ones goes like this.
 
Tier 1

  • The Presence

Tier 2 

  • Elaine Belloc
    Monitor-Mind

Tier 3

  • Meshta
  • The Great Evil Beast
  • Rama Kushna
  • The Source
  • Synnar
  • Ultimate Darkness
  • Ultimate Light

Tier 4

  • Lucifer Morningstar (So the ones above and Michael can beat him. Everything below can't.)
  • Michael Demiurgos (I still believe Michael will still beat him)
#7 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10368 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel: When you say Ultimate Darkness and Light who are you referring to (Sorry I'm green in some areas)
#8 Posted by DeathsHead2 (1625 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nelomaxwell: 
 
"Full Powered" GALACTUS! 
 
; ) 
 
#9 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
@DeathsHead2 said:
" @Nelomaxwell:  "Full Powered" GALACTUS!  ; )   "
That's a no. Galactus, to me is below Spectre or close to him maybe. And Lucifer will make mincemeat of the Spectre. 
#10 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nelomaxwell said:
" @Supreme Marvel: When you say Ultimate Darkness and Light who are you referring to (Sorry I'm green in some areas) "
Didn't realise I still had them on. I copied it from one of my files I had.  I think if I recall, it's UD is The Great Evil Beast and UL is The presence. Morph might be able to clarify.
#11 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3215 posts) - - Show Bio

what about a full powered Mikaboshi or osthur?
#12 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10368 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel:  I thought you mean the darkness and Angelus.
#13 Posted by DeathsHead2 (1625 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel: 
 
Underestimating GALACTUS here would be a mistake.  A mistake the arrogant Lucifer would make, and "live" to regret! 
 
I've learned the hard way on these boards that you do NOT underestimate GALACTUS, especially at FULL POWER! 
 
; ) 
 

#14 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
@DeathsHead2 said:
" @Supreme Marvel:  Underestimating GALACTUS here would be a mistake.  A mistake the arrogant Lucifer would make, and "live" to regret!  I've learned the hard way on these boards that you do NOT underestimate GALACTUS, especially at FULL POWER!  ; )   "
Been done on this thread many a times. Galactus always came close but lost to Spectre. Lucifer is way way above Spectre in power. Lucifer would eat Galactus.
#15 Posted by DeathsHead2 (1625 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel: 
 
Okay then, I've got someone better... 
 
Divine Spawn! 
 
; ) 
 

#16 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10368 posts) - - Show Bio
@DeathsHead2:  Been Done too, Divine Spawn lost. Al though I'm not sure how.
#17 Posted by buttersdaman000 (9496 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel: I would put Micheal and Lucifer between the two tier two's and then I would put Micheal above Lucifer
#18 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3215 posts) - - Show Bio

Mad Jim Jasper? 
 
White Crown Phoenix?
#19 Posted by Nelomaxwell (10368 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer would eat WCP@King-Stranglehold da first:

#20 Edited by ThanoStomp (781 posts) - - Show Bio

With enough prep..... 
 
Reed Richards 
Thanos 
Dr. Doom  
Classic Dr. Strange
there are others... 

#21 Posted by Nefarious (18851 posts) - - Show Bio

The Man of Miracles. 

#22 Posted by industrious (482 posts) - - Show Bio

I've got 7 names that can beat Lucifer. Hint: They all start with "D".

#23 Posted by MrDirector786 (43416 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku and Vegeta

#24 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nefarious said:
" The Man of Miracles.  "
If that's the Endless, they have no power over him.
#25 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nefarious said:

" The Man of Miracles.  "

  @Nelomaxwell said:

" I mean I know. MOM and TOAA and The Presence  but is there anyone else "

Already mentioned that.
#26 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - - Show Bio
@MrDirector786 said:
"Goku and Vegeta "

no they cant
#27 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valtot said:
" @MrDirector786 said:
"Goku and Vegeta "
no they cant "
I think he may have been joking.
#28 Posted by Nefarious (18851 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel: Death of the Endless? 
#29 Posted by Valtot (4502 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nefarious:
no lucifer already said he was beyond death or something on those lines
#30 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
#31 Posted by High Revolutionary (3166 posts) - - Show Bio
@ThanoStomp said:
" With enough prep.....  Reed Richards...  "
#32 Edited by ThanoStomp (781 posts) - - Show Bio
@High Revolutionary:    That's awesome!   Please tell me I'm the first to earn Scathan's thumb down.
 
I noticed you didn't add Thanos, Doom and Strange.  Curious......
#33 Posted by MrDirector786 (43416 posts) - - Show Bio
@Valtot said:
" @MrDirector786 said:
"Goku and Vegeta "
no they cant "
I was joking when I said that.
#34 Posted by Thepowercosmic (940 posts) - - Show Bio

Protege 

#35 Posted by SSJjanemba (60 posts) - - Show Bio

superman!

#36 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3215 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nelomaxwell said:
"Lucifer would eat WCP @King-Stranglehold da first: "

I disgaree. 
 
She is almost on pairs with the LT.
#37 Posted by the darknessss (2750 posts) - - Show Bio

Saint of killers
#38 Posted by MrDirector786 (43416 posts) - - Show Bio
@King-Stranglehold da first said:
" @Nelomaxwell said:
"Lucifer would eat WCP @King-Stranglehold da first: "
I disgaree.  She is almost on pairs with the LT. "
Lucifer could probably beat LT too.
#39 Posted by Dracade102 (8167 posts) - - Show Bio

World's Funniest Mxyzptlk / Bat-mite... 
Probably Thanos w/ the Infinity Gauntlet... 
And more than likely the Silver Age Justice League.

#40 Posted by MrDirector786 (43416 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dracade102 said:
" World's Funniest Mxyzptlk / Bat-mite... Probably Thanos w/ the Infinity Gauntlet... And more than likely the Silver Age Justice League. "
Not sure about WF Mxy and Batmite but no way Thanos with IG or the SA JLA wins though.
#41 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3215 posts) - - Show Bio
@MrDirector786 said:
" @King-Stranglehold da first said:
" @Nelomaxwell said:
"Lucifer would eat WCP @King-Stranglehold da first: "
I disgaree.  She is almost on pairs with the LT. "
Lucifer could probably beat LT too. "

Yeah probably
#42 Posted by Dracade102 (8167 posts) - - Show Bio
@MrDirector786 said:
" @Dracade102 said:
" World's Funniest Mxyzptlk / Bat-mite... Probably Thanos w/ the Infinity Gauntlet... And more than likely the Silver Age Justice League. "
Not sure about WF Mxy and Batmite but no way Thanos with IG or the SA JLA wins though. "
WF Mxy + Bat-mite destroyed the Multiverse, Fifth Dimension, Phantom Zone and everything else and put it back together again... I'm pretty sure they should win this.
#43 Posted by _Zombie_ (10323 posts) - - Show Bio

My list would be God-Spawn, Thanos, Superboy Prime, possibly Hulk.  Also, despite this being borderline(if not full-blown 
OP'ing.. Onslaught.

#44 Posted by MrDirector786 (43416 posts) - - Show Bio
@ZombieBigfoot said:
" My list would be God-Spawn, Thanos, Superboy Prime, possibly Hulk.  Also, despite this being borderline(if not full-blown OP'ing.. Onslaught. "
How are any of those guys going to do anything to Lucifer? He'd blink them all out of existence.
#45 Posted by Supreme Marvel (11264 posts) - - Show Bio
@Dracade102 said:

" World's Funniest Mxyzptlk / Bat-mite... Probably Thanos w/ the Infinity Gauntlet... And more than likely the Silver Age Justice League. "

None of them would. And I think Phantom pointed out a reason for why the IG wouldn't work.
 
@MrDirector786 said:

" @King-Stranglehold da first said:

" @Nelomaxwell said:

"Lucifer would eat WCP @King-Stranglehold da first: "
I disgaree.  She is almost on pairs with the LT. "
Lucifer could probably beat LT too. "
 
Actually I think LT is the only one I've seen that could beat him, despite naming the obvious names.
 

@ZombieBigfoot

said:

" My list would be God-Spawn, Thanos, Superboy Prime, possibly Hulk.  Also, despite this being borderline(if not full-blown OP'ing.. Onslaught. "

I don't know the full power of God Spawn, so I can't speculate on him. However the rest you named will be a no. I really, really, really hope you were joking about the Hulk thing.
#46 Posted by TheFallenOne (1093 posts) - - Show Bio

If this is regular Lucifer anyone at universal + level so basicly every major multiversal powerhouse. Lucifer with Demiurgic power is another story but again he isn't on par with multiversal heavy-hitters (claim that he created the multiverse was a writer's mistake)
#47 Posted by _Zombie_ (10323 posts) - - Show Bio
@Supreme Marvel said:
" @Dracade102 said:

" World's Funniest Mxyzptlk / Bat-mite... Probably Thanos w/ the Infinity Gauntlet... And more than likely the Silver Age Justice League. "

None of them would. And I think Phantom pointed out a reason for why the IG wouldn't work.
 
@MrDirector786 said:

" @King-Stranglehold da first said:

" @Nelomaxwell said:

"Lucifer would eat WCP @King-Stranglehold da first: "
I disgaree.  She is almost on pairs with the LT. "
Lucifer could probably beat LT too. "
 
Actually I think LT is the only one I've seen that could beat him, despite naming the obvious names.
 

@ZombieBigfoot

said:

" My list would be God-Spawn, Thanos, Superboy Prime, possibly Hulk.  Also, despite this being borderline(if not full-blown OP'ing.. Onslaught. "

I don't know the full power of God Spawn, so I can't speculate on him. However the rest you named will be a no. I really, really, really hope you were joking about the Hulk thing. "

 
Nah, the Hulk thing was a joke.  I may not be a super-hardcore nerd.. but I'm no idiot.  Hulk would be a tiny distraction for about ten seconds, if even that.. then he'd go poof.  God-Spawn though(I can't find sans of the God arc right now, and my local library hates me.) could probably do it.  God and Satan teamed up to put him down, going so far as to combine their armies.  God-Spawn whiped the Earth clean of lfe in one blast of power.  That's the extent of his power pretty much.  Though  I can't remember exactly if he destroyed God and Satan, or just rendered them powerless.  It's been some time since Iread it.
#48 Posted by CosmicSpiral (5471 posts) - - Show Bio
@ZombieBigfoot said: 
Nah, the Hulk thing was a joke.  I may not be a super-hardcore nerd.. but I'm no idiot.  Hulk would be a tiny distraction for about ten seconds, if even that.. then he'd go poof.  God-Spawn though(I can't find sans of the God arc right now, and my local library hates me.) could probably do it.  God and Satan teamed up to put him down, going so far as to combine their armies.  God-Spawn whiped the Earth clean of lfe in one blast of power.  That's the extent of his power pretty much.  Though  I can't remember exactly if he destroyed God and Satan, or just rendered them powerless.  It's been some time since Iread it. "
He trapped them in some alternate dimension, and they squabbled for the rest of eternity.  
 
Only people with actual inherent omnipotence can beat him. 
#49 Edited by Thor's hammmer (7184 posts) - - Show Bio

LT, Michael, Overmonitor, ellaine, GEB, Nemises, PR Molecule man, PR Beyonder, Thought Robot, Amalgam Brothers, Protege, scathan maybe, last planet standing Galactus, DR Solar, maybe SuperGod Hercules or antimonitor. maybe the Fulcrum the HOTU, the staff of polar power.
#50 Posted by Chaos Prime (10842 posts) - - Show Bio