Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT
The Presence is the supreme being of dc, not the overmonitor.
As for the battle, only the Presence is guaranteed to be able to defeat LT. Others who might have a chance include Michael and Lucifer, Great Evil Beast, etc.
The Presence is the supreme being of dc, not the overmonitor.
As for the battle, only the Presence is guaranteed to be able to defeat LT. Others who might have a chance include Michael and Lucifer, Great Evil Beast, etc.
Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT
This is false. He only held the embodiments of two megaverses, not two megaverses themselves.
Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT
This is false. He only held the embodiments of two megaverses, not two megaverses themselves.
Agreed. In addition, just because the presence has not manipulated megaverses before does not mean he cannot.
Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT
This is false. He only held the embodiments of two megaverses, not two megaverses themselves.
Nope, he held two megaverses that's why there was a crossover in the first place, and he helped fashion them:
and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously:
So LT is definitely megaversal at least possibly more (holding two megaverses)
Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT
This is false. He only held the embodiments of two megaverses, not two megaverses themselves.
Agreed. In addition, just because the presence has not manipulated megaverses before does not mean he cannot.
Yes but no one in the whole DC universe has shown megaversal feats, only multiversal at best, but non showed anything megaversal
LT is essentially God in Marvel continuity, the ceiling in the Marvel power-hierarchy that can never be reached...the only exceptions to this are, of course, those story arcs where the writer of the comic decide to draw attention to the only other higher power in the company, themselves. The Heart of the Universe and TOAA crap is nothing more than the writers messing with the established hierarchy of their comic's cannon, but when they're not doing that, no one beats LT.
So the only one in DC who could beat LT would be a DC version of TOAA, and if there was an established character in DC who was always #2 behind the DC TOAA, then he/she could potentially match the LT...that's it, there's really no more explanation or discussion necessary.
Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT
This is false. He only held the embodiments of two megaverses, not two megaverses themselves.
Nope, he held two megaverses that's why there was a crossover in the first place, and he helped fashion them:
and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously:
So LT is definitely megaversal at least possibly more (holding two megaverses)
Nothing on the scan actually states what you are saying. Also Marvel vs Dc, might have been cannon to Dc universe, marvel doesnt consider it cannon. The best i have seen LT do (not a comics i have read but scan posted by CitizenBane) was being able to hold 2 eternity in the palm of each hand.
Also i dont actually remember anywhere saying LT held the two brothers together, if you could take me which issue it says so (coz i think it has a total of 2 issues doesnt it? ) i can go back and check it out.
Actually if you look in the scan you could see they say the living tribunal exists in all multiverses simultaneously making him megaversal (since he can affect more than one multiverse)
Actually no one can win against LT in terms of feats, since LT is shown to have megaversal feats (holding 2 megaverses and he exists in all multiverses simultaneously), even the presence doesn't have megaversal feats, so by feats no one can match LT
This is false. He only held the embodiments of two megaverses, not two megaverses themselves.
Agreed. In addition, just because the presence has not manipulated megaverses before does not mean he cannot.
Yes but no one in the whole DC universe has shown megaversal feats, only multiversal at best, but non showed anything megaversal
As far as I know DC does not have a megaverse, so there is no chance for any character to show megaversal feats. Nontheless that is not to say they are incapable. If they crossed over into Marvel somehow I sure the Presence can easily manipulate a megaverse.
@justleader: How many times do I have to tell you. The scale for multiversal to universal is 2 - infinity. The scale for megaversal to multiversal is more than 2 - infinity.
@justleader: How many times do I have to tell you. The scale for multiversal to universal is 2 - infinity. The scale for megaversal to multiversal is more than 2 - infinity.
multiverse and megaverse apparently means the same thing according to marvel bio.
@blackadamFTW said:
@SithLantern93 said:
@blackadamFTW said:
@SithLantern93: Too be honest, I don't remember.
Crap.
Found it (don't know where it's from):
Thats from Supergirl 8th Grade Adventure, issue 4, page 16. Note, its non-cannon to Dc continuity, as every children books are.
@Killemall: I'm not using Marvel's whacky definitions, I'm using the actual definitions.
But when you say megaverse, i am assuming you are talking about marvel megaverse rather than a random megaverse, because thats what the Living Tribunal is bound to. And given the fact that DC no longer has a megaverse, the only company that does is marvel, and well there definition as you put it is "whacky" .
Also what do you mean by an actual defination of a megaverse? The only scientific theory that even talks about megaverse, from what i know of, is string theory (or most specifically the M-theory), which simply is a collection of various universe.
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