Who can beat Lord Beerus?

Rules

• No trolling
• No abstracts or omnipotents. No TP, reality warping, molecule manipulation phasing/intangibility or speed force dump. I want a clear fight, so no hax powers in general.
• No prep.
• Takes place on earth

Whis and nobody else.

what do u mean by "who"

and from what verse

@kuroimugetsu: any provided the character doesn't break the rules.

@i_am_lightning: goku.

@i_am_lightning: this is tough has he actually "lost" we know soemone who is stronger than him.... but its hard to gauge a featless (battle wise) character, we know he can beat up goku pretty darn good

@i_am_lightning: it depends on morals on or off ...in character out of character?

also does bills have any defence against molecule manipulation, magic, being dumped in the speed force, tp, the if not the list of possible answers is huge ...

Well, he's pretty powerful and fast(as shown when he utterly stomped Goku), he's at least as durable and can easily destroy planets with his punches.

Well, i'll edit the rules, then.

@smxlr8 said:

You're the only troll here.

Whis

Seiya Gold Cloth (series sucks though)

Dark Schneider

Odin (at his strongest)

I'm sure Beerus is about to get some more feats, along with goku and vegeta in the new anime which is rumored to be 100 episodes. They are already between solar system and galaxy busters right now.

Thanos with prep

we can't possibly decide ... we don't know what he can resist, in terms of tp, mind transfer, soul stealing, speed force, atomic manipulation etc. ... if whis has no counters than he could "potentially" be beaten like this ...theirs also, bfr him

Thanos. Wally west. Zoom. Galactus. Firestorm. Silver Surfer. etc. Etc.

Thanos with a infinity gauntlet, he defeated all the astral gods at the same time.

Other people:

Popeye with spinach. (Toonforce is a tiny bit lower than omnipotence).

Bugs Bunny.

Droopy.

Kal-Kent, Super Boy Prime, and Prime one-million. (He maybe feat-less, but 15,000 years in the sun has to count for something). (This team is a bit of a stretch though)

Squirrel Girl

Whis (ofc)

Nope.

The first wouldn't are roughly the same speed as him, so they're not blitzing. Also, read the rules.

Firestorm would get blitzed.

White Queen

@mr_nofunallowed said:

Thanos with a infinity gauntlet, he defeated these guys at the same time. Beerus is overrated.

Saying Beerus is overrated is overrated just saying. ;)

@jtindall: I still stand by it.

Saitama.

@imperfect_cell: So sorry, I didn't realize making a opinion different from yours meant I deserved to die.

@mr_nofunallowed Your opinion is wrong that's all im saying. You have no base, he is so strong and not overrated at all.

You know damn well that's not what I meant. You going into a thread & trolling is what this is about. Read the damn OP:

• No abstracts or omnipotents. No TP, reality warping, molecule manipulation phasing/intangibility or speed force dump. I want a clear fight, so no hax powers in general.

So STFU.

@i_am_lightning: Didn't see molecule manip. on that list.

And Beerus is no where close to Wally West or Zoom in speed. Like at all.

@imperfect_cell: For surfer I explained above that I didn't see molecule manip. so my bad there.

And even without matter manip. I would debate for Thanos over Beerus tbh.

He's FTL for sure.

@imperfect_cell: Sheesh, thanos is not omnipotent. Op did not state that objects like the infinity gauntlet were not allowed. In essence, if the infinity gauntlet and Thanos are the same being, then I sorely apologize for not understanding what omnipotents are. No need to get so mad. I guess that the infinity gauntlet is a "hax" power then if the above isn't the case.

@speedster101:

I would debate for Thanos over Beerus tbh.

Beerus likely can't even perceive Wally or Zoom if they were serious.

@i_am_lightning: I'm well aware Beerus as well as Vegeta, Goku, Trunks, Gohan, Goten, Buu, Cell, Frieza etc. etc. are FTL. Wally West is Massively FTL to the point where he can travel great distances in picoseconds. His IMP's would out down Beerus relatively quickly imo. And for Zoom I meant Hunter Zolomon who Roflstomped the hell out of the JLA (including flash) so ya...

Beerus would win the fight in 30 seconds..........

@jtindall: Even if Thanos with the infinity gauntlet is not allowed(Which I was too dumb to realize) even imperfect_cell sorta agreed that this guy ( with the infinity gauntlet) would triumph over beerus.

Thanos isn't omnipotent, & almost most of Thanos' powers are prohibited in the rules set by the OP.

I'm not mad, I just hate you.

I thought they were only slightly above light.

I obviously don't know a lot about Flash, so i'll take your word as true :)

Its as simple as this everyone knows DBZ characters are very strong even the weak ones no matter what anyone says. But take the God of destruction of that DBZ universe who wakes up from a nap goes 70% and can still beat god saiyan. The scary thing is he isn't even close to the strongest as he states. He is really strong not overrated and it would take some serious man power to bring down this guy.

@imperfect_cell@speedster101@mr_nofunallowed

@imperfect_cell: Alright, I'm sorry. Do you forgive me, cause if you don't I'll give you a cookie. Then you have to.

@i_am_lightning: Wally has gone over 30 trillion times FTL before. He still can't see Zoom.

Could Darshe still beat Beerus without hax (I.E. Physically, with energy projection, etc.), @princearagorn1 ?

@imperfect_cell: Hahaha I mean't that meaning imo Thanos > Beerus in a close battle not saying I wanted to get into a debate... Buuuutttt... If u really wanna debate this I'm game...

Why the mad Titan should win over Lord Beerus

Welp, outside of the banned Matter Manip. Thanos has an auto-win in the way of Telepathy (Thanos's Tp is pretty incredible) as well as much higher physicals (mostly in the way of durability). I have seen the feats of Beerus flying through planets, BUT Thanos was steamrolling characters with similar levels of strength such as over coming Thor, Hulk, Surfer, Gladiator, BRB etc. etc. and often multiples of these characters at once. Plus he has rected to faster characters than Beerus as well (such as SS and Nova Prime). Plus Thanos Energy manip. is honestly massively above Beerus' considering he has put the hurt on Galactus.

In summary -

• Greater physicals (durability + strength)
• Has overcome much faster than Beerus
• Much more potent offensive energy
• Insane shielding
• Tp

@jtindall: Here's one of the creatures that thanos(with the infinity gauntlet) managed to prevail and gain its cosmic like power: Eternity. It's the human chameleon guy in the pic. The OPs rules stated that no abstract or omnipotent creature is allowed, because they would mop the floor against him. I'm done breaking the rules and spoiling the fun.

@mr_nofunallowed said:

I know who he is and I am well aware of thanos's feats.

Wow now that's power right there.

@jtindall: I have reasons for why I believe Thanos would win. See above. Plus saying the fight would end in 30 seconds between Beerus and Thanman shows how unknowledgeable you are my friend.

@i_am_lightning: Im sorry (I reallt don't mean to sound like a jerk) but HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA........... Only a little over light?... Superman is almost 10x faster than light and Wally makes Supes look like someone frozen in time. Very surprised you didn't know these things considering your post count... meh...

@jtindall: But with the infinity gauntlet? Lol, no you don't.

Tp is out of the question first off. And Thanos couldn't beat Beerus in a h2h fight

Batman is the only thing i read from DC :p

I heard Superman can only get to that speed in outer space, is that information correct?

@speedster101 You honestly underestimate the DBZ universe.

@speedster101:

Thanos has an auto-win in the way of Telepathy (Thanos's Tp is pretty incredible)

Beerus was completely unaffected by the Demon God's telepathy/mind control, but can I get some instances of Thanman using telepathy in combat?

much higher physicals (mostly in the way of durability).

While he does have higher durability than the deity, he is not impervious to what Beerus can do. Other than that, Thanman has lifting strength, but that's it.

I have seen the feats of Beerus flying through planets, BUT Thanos was steamrolling characters with similar levels of strength such as over coming Thor, Hulk, Surfer, Gladiator, BRB etc. etc.

None of those guys have come close to obliterating planets with shockwaves like Beerus did.

Plus he has rected to faster characters than Beerus as well (such as SS and Nova Prime).

Thanman "reacting" to SS is usually Silver Surfer running into Thanman's blasts. Can you show scans of him reacting to Nova Prime?

Plus Thanos Energy manip. is honestly massively above Beerus' considering he has put the hurt on Galactus.

He didn't harm Galactus at all. Thanman even said all he did was make Galan angry. He knocked him over, that's it. Meanwhile Beerus while tired & groggy one-shotted two stars:

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