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#1  Edited By alcoholbob

Name characters who can beat Kizaru from One Piece. They must be outside of One Piece, and no omnipotent beings.
 

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Offensive Powers: Light-speed kick/beam attacks
Defensive Powers: Attacks phase through him as if he were made of light.
Movement: Can move long distances through the air (presumably at light-speed...since he is made of light).
 
Win by death, or TKO
 
PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY
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#2  Edited By crackerjack82

Iceman, martian manhunter, goku, the guy form bleach

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#3  Edited By alcoholbob
@crackerjack82 said:
Iceman, martian manhunter, goku, the guy form bleach
And how do they beat Kizaru?
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#4  Edited By crackerjack82

Iceman turns everything absolute zero, Manhunter, mind rapes him while beating him on a sub atomic level, Goku, cause he will go super saying jin 54, the guy from bleach kills his soul

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#5  Edited By alcoholbob
@crackerjack82 said:

Iceman turns everything absolute zero

 Uh...how does temperature effect light?...

@crackerjack82 said:

Manhunter, mind rapes him while beating him on a sub atomic level

Don't know how Kizaru would react to this. What kind of mind rape does Manhunter do?
 
@crackerjack82 said:

Goku, cause he will go super saying jin 54

Hmm...
 
@crackerjack82 said:

the guy from bleach kills his soul

What is this I don't even...
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#6  Edited By crackerjack82

1 absolute zero, causes all molecules to stop this includes ones made of light
2 Martian manhunter, is in he top ten of telepaths, plus he has all the powers of superman
3 was a joke
4 i guess that means.........

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#7  Edited By alcoholbob
@crackerjack82 said:

1 absolute zero, causes all molecules to stop this includes ones made of light 2 Martian manhunter, is in he top ten of telepaths, plus he has all the powers of superman 3 was a joke 4 i guess that means.........

Absolute zero is −459.67 °F and I've never heard of it stopping light from moving... 
 
Yeah I don't think anyone in DBZ can beat Kizaru lol...
 
Still not sure where you are going with Bleach...
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#8  Edited By crackerjack82
@alcoholbob
no true absolute zero, not achievable zero, the values are different, true AZ is the end of all things, molecules stop moving
bleach i dunno were im going either
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#9  Edited By NeonNemesis

I don't see bleach but from what I got those guys attack the souls of the oponents, no soul, no life (at least normally that's what happens), so you can see where its going.

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#10  Edited By alcoholbob
@crackerjack82 said:

@alcoholbob: no true absolute zero, not achievable zero, the values are different, true AZ is the end of all things, molecules stop moving bleach i dunno were im going either

  
Then end of all things huh...I like where your imagination is going...
 
@NeonNemesis said: 

I don't see bleach but from what I got those guys attack the souls of the oponents, no soul, no life (at least normally that's what happens), so you can see where its going.

Their zanpaktoh sends dead spirits lingering in the real world to the spirit world...if it destroys souls it would be the first I've heard.
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#11  Edited By crackerjack82
@alcoholbob:  
Not imagination, hypothetical theory. We are unable at this point in time, to place a quantified number to true absolute zero, negative 459.67, is near AZ, as molecules still move, where as true AZ the molecules would cease to exist 
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#12  Edited By alcoholbob
@crackerjack82: That sounds like an omnipotent power (assuming Iceman's abilities work as you postulate)...why isn't iceman more useful in fights if he's that strong?
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#13  Edited By PirateKing69

Seeing how ppl outside of One Piece don't haki so not many people can hit Kizaru...It would have to be people that can mind rape since Kizaru doesn't have any tp resistance feats, or someone with powers that could affect light.

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#14  Edited By crackerjack82
@alcoholbob:  same reason flash isnt, the writers, also of them dont know how to really use him, and one writer will evolve his character and the next will make him act like he was an insecure child, and then the next has to work all that BS out
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#15  Edited By alcoholbob

So basically it comes down to gravity manipulation or mind rape...or apparently ice man as well lol...

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#16  Edited By pooty
@alcoholbob: Vulcan, dr. light, Photon
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#17  Edited By MarvelJackAss433

Jean Grey

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Wow this is old.

Negi Springfield and Jack Rakan from Negima

And accelerator from a certain magical index.

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Questionable bump.

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Any of the Endless.

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Dr. Light

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Anyone who could manipulate darkness.

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Anyone with decent mindfu** or soulfu**. Or any other kind of haxx.

Anyone who can dish out multi block level damage and can touch elementals.

Borsalino is far from unbeatable.

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#26  Edited By DBVSE7

Sting from Fairy Tail... all he has to do is eat him, but any Lightning user or Darkness user and TF? iceman would lose do to Haki

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Sting would get his head kicked off by Kizaru.

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#28  Edited By DBVSE7

@blackwind: How when Sting is a Light Magic user and Dragon Slayer? thats like saying Ace would turn Natsu to Ash..

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Kizaru isn't perfectly light speed he requires charge time and all hes so called infinite mass kicks do is send people through buildings who all turn out to be fine afterwards when he suppose to be a particle beam and level countrys.

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#30  Edited By Albertphytagoras

Flash. Nuff said.

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#31  Edited By DrFateForums

THIS GUY:

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@dbvse7 said:

Sting from Fairy Tail... all he has to do is eat him, but any Lightning user or Darkness user and TF? iceman would lose do to Haki

Iceman would freeze him easily.

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#34  Edited By DBVSE7

@deathhero61: No.. someone already explained why Iceman couldn't Freeze Light or Kizaru. 1. Iceman can't use haki 2. no element superiority. 3 Iceman can't freeze light.

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#36  Edited By DBVSE7

@deathhero61: Aokiji on the other hand has a far better chance of beating Kizaru.

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#37  Edited By EzioRenzo

Ok give it to them:

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#39  Edited By BlackWind

Logias aren't always in their elemental form, that's why. He wouldn't even need his powers to defeat him. And Kizaru can casually demolish a building just by kicking someone through it, as shown how he did Scratchman Apoo. Sting was a scrub until he used Dragon Force.

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Aquaman with waterhand, Iceman

Both can manipulate water to use against him if they fight smart.

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#41  Edited By Dratini1331

Also, this guy:

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and plenty others, but I'm sticking with ageha.

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@blackwind: This isn't an actual battle with rules so you can't really use that and even so, since he has haki he would obviously know he would be attacked..

Soo yes in a case like that he would be in his element form. It's not like he would know what Sting can actually do or what Sting is sooo yea ..And please.. you know how damn durable strong Dragon Slayers are, even their senses are great, one kick won't seal the deal especially a normal one.. btw he was using light speed kicks as u could see when his kicks made contact to what ever he was attacking (using his element) Kizaru isn't like Sanji.

Like I said it's VERY unlikely that Kizaru wouldn't use his element to attack or be in his element form so in this case he's done for.. Sting eats him or Kizaru couldn't really do anything without using his elemental powers which wouldn't do anything to someone who is immune to light based attacks.

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@dbvse7: Logias vs Dragon Slayers are statelemant since Logias showed elemental feats that FT can never come close so we don't know if they can eat that much

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@colliderz: What do you mean? Theres no limitation written or shown ANYWHERE on how much Dragon Slayers can eat of their own element, only a limitation on WHAT they can eat. O.o

Logias can PRODUCE their element as much as they want since Logias ARE the element.. it's doesn't change their mass or size. So that doesn't mean Dragon Slayers couldn't eat them.. that's basically taking away a Dragon Slayers ability

There is no possible way to find out, but that doesn't mean the way a characters powers work change.. Natsu can eat Fire + Ace IS Fire = Natsu can eat Ace.

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#46  Edited By ssj_god

@alcoholbob:

eiichiro oda can defeat kizaru... quite easily.

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Most DBZ chatacers.

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@dbvse7: Logias can spam waaay more from their elements than Dragon Slayers ever ate or used

Can Natsu eat a fire attack that easily covers half of a island?

You give the answer in your reply we don't know how much they can eat

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#50  Edited By DBVSE7

@colliderz: Theres no limitation on it at all. So you can't just give Dragon Slayers one cause you don't think they could. Why couldn't they, because you think they can't? That doesn't make it fact.

Like I said, fact is there was never a limitation put on the amount Dragon Slayers can consume, only what they could consume. So how much DF users can spam doesn't mean anything.