Who can beat firestorm?

Conditions:

Speed equalized

Jason Rusch version

Bloodlust on

Please don't say things like living tribunal, mxy etc

Additional question: is there anyone without TP, reality warping or super speed that could beat him?

Raven.

Zatanna. Captain Atom. Breach. Martian Manhunter. Captain Comet. Other Firestorms...

Aunt May

Gwen Stacy

Squirrel Girl

Grimace (The purple guy who's friends with Ronald McDonald)

My old cat

That guy who works at the deli at the corner store (I want to say his name is Kasem...did I spell that right!?)

I've seen funnier trolls.

Most powerhouses and speedsters with better reaction times and speed can beat him.

Omnipotenet and above can beat him.

Z'

@z___: is there anyone without TP, reality warping or super speed that he can't beat?

Iceman

@icecold14: firestorm takes away iceman's powers, yes I have scans to prove that he can do it. Go look at the iceman vs firestorm thread from like 3 days ago

Hm. Like bricks? Probably not. Can't think of any off the top of my head.

Z'

Martian Manhunter

@thenewbluebeetle007: Again firestorms powers are worthless against somebody who can be everywhere or at least in multiple places at once

@icecold14: Go read the firestorm vs iceman thread. Firestorm can take away iceman's powers. OR He could nuke the entire planet (this is morals off). Or pull iceman into the matrix.

@thenewbluebeetle007: He aint pulling bobby into the matrix or BFRing him anywhere since Iceman will never get caught and yes I read the thread but personally to many firestorm fanboys to deal with lol and when has firestorm ever blown up a planet?? Scans?? Even if he could Iceman would have beat him down already

He aint taking bobbys powers away if you mean by transmuting him because like I said he would need to transmute every single water molecule on earth which aint happening

@icecold14: i meant he could fly into space where Bobby can't touch him then keep bombarding the planet with nuclear blasts until nothing remains.

And no I did not mean by transmutation, I meant he would take his powers away. Go back to the firestorm vs iceman threads and read the scans that I posted there.

Captain Atom maybe?

@thenewbluebeetle007: Bobby has made a pillar high enough to go to space before since bobby doesnt need to breath to live

And remember bobbys consciouss doesnt have limits so he will be kept alive as long as there is water molecules...

And taking bobbys powers away will be difficult since hes in so many places at once and he will never know that bobby will put him out with absolute zero or anything close to those tempetures in less than a second

@thanofleeze: Why do I care?

Taken fromthe flashvs iceman thread: he is not everywhere at once, in the beginning of a battle he has one main body and one main conscious. What he has shown is something called "clairvoyance" and many characters can do the same exact thing as Bobby with different elements, but aren't "omnipresent". Yes, he may distribute his conscious everywhere he pleases, but that takes limit and time and also there is no prep.

Firestorm has fought, and defeated, PC darkseid.

And the fact that he is in so many places is meaningless, whenever he tries to attack jason he will get his powers taken. Iceman has been tagged multiple times by opponents that firestorm could beat. Do you have scans of iceman doing a flash freeze?

Because it is a genuine thread with a straight-forward question, and your use of cliches was unimpressive.

Emma Frost

@thenewbluebeetle007: Lol really?? Like I told shado in that thread like 20min ago is that he "could" be everywhere at once but he definitely is in multiple places at once so go back to that thread and read the rest lol

Firestorm tagging a bloodlusted iceman?? Lol no one has tagged a bloodlusted Bobby you are most lilely referring to Bobby with hos morals on that doesnt use his powers fully because hes afraid but once hes bloodlusted he goes all out.... how the hell is gonna steal bobby power when he will never touch him or tag him?? I have scans but im on cell phone since my computers down for now

@thenewbluebeetle007: iceman can also flash freeze firestorm powers...It depends on who thinks to do it first....any ways iceman can't be killed he will reform itself always...Iceman is winner

Sersi.

Johnny Sorrow

@thenewbluebeetle007: anyone with equal or better matter manipulation.

I can see the hulk stomping him..Ronnie and Martin Forever! Lol, but seriously the hulk has fought radiation manipulators and molecular fighters (molecule man,metal master, vector, x-ray,beyonder, doom(stealing beyonder's powers) etc and before anyone says I'm a fan boy i'm not also..on this list would be..

1. Icon (he can project anti-matter..meaning non-molecular)
2. Blue Marvel(same thing, except marvel placed him higher than Icon(some bs, couldn't be original))

3. Rocket(for the msot part her belt can absorb the damage he will dish out, depends if he going energy wise,if ont and he think he can physically harm her, she can knock him out with a high enough charged punch)

4. Molecule man( it's in his name, lol, he can match and probably beat back all of Jason's attempts to use the molecular manipulation he is granted0

5. Radioactive Man( He would be the one to stomp Jason's ability of radiation manipulation, he is able to drian him dry, or focus it back at him)

This isn't an official list, prove me wrong if you wish, my opinion.

Love this answer.

No idea who the character is, but I'm going to just go ahead and say Alucard. People who actually know Firestorm, please feel free to tell me otherwise.

@theamazingyolo: How exactly is Alucard going to defeat Firestorm?

@ajaysharma_1016: Firestorm has control over temperatures too, he's made an area absolute zero. And he can simply take away Bobby's powers.

I think Zatanna could, probably Circe, DC Ares (or is that too much).. probably Captain Atom, Martian Manhunter..

Dr. Manhattan

@theamazingyolo: don't know alucard, but here's a summary of Firestorm's powers.

• Matter Manipulation on a very high level - turned Anti-Monitor's armor to hydrogen, the statue of liberty to Kryptonite, people to helium etc.
• Intangibility
• Nuclear Powered Blasts that affected the Anti-Monitor
• Energy Absorption
• Taking away someone's powers
• Accelerated Healing both internal (recovered from enhanced Joker venom specifically designed for him in a few days) and external (tanked a blast that put down Captain Atom)

And powers that he has but doesn't use very often:

• Temperature control (made an absolute zero prison for Killer Frost - on the sun)
• Astral Projection (only did it once, but it counts)
• Mindrape (via Matrix Fusion)
• Teleportation/Wormholes
• Ability to change size from subatomic to skyscraper level
• Super-Speed (via Zeta Radiation - "traverse the galaxy in an instant")

Okay, scratch Alucard. I think Darquesse sounds like a much better match for this guy.

Magik, Iceman, Flash, Hulk, Martian Manhunter

Silver Surfer.

Fantomex.

@tbemrmccoy: bloodlusted Firestorm turns Hulk into a very angry slice of cake

• TOAA
• Presence
• Great Evil Beast
• Living Tribunal
• Scathan
• Protégé
• PR-Beyonder
• PR-Molecule Man
• Lucifer Morningstar
• Michael Demiurgos.
• Elaine Belloc
• HOTU Thanos
• WF Mister Mxyzptlk
• Thought Robot
• Mandrakk
• Primal Monitor
• Spectre
• COIE Anti-Monitor
• Word
• The Endless
• IG Adam Warlock
• The Infinities
• Batman with prep
• Brothers Yin and Yang
• Kyle Rayner Ion (Classic)
• Hal Jordan Parallax (Zero Hour)
• God Swamp Thing
• Synnar the Demiurge
• Krona
• Sise-Neg
• Alien Entity
• HoM Scarlet Witch
• Mad Jim Jaspers
• Ultimate Nullifier Galactus
• Abraxas
• Chaos King
• Plantman
• Eternity
• Infinity
• White Phoenix of the Crown
• Nemesis
• Oblivion
• Michael Korvac (What if?)
• Captain Britain (Excalibur)
• The Seven Friendless
• Grant Morrison
• The Source (Classic)
• Ultimator
• Warlogog Hourman
• Decreator
• Nix Uotan
• The Quantum Mechanics
• Decreator
• Parallax
• Kismet
• Rama Kushna
• Trigon
• Imperiex

@itgreat_yourealizeyourgreat: oh wow, really? I had no idea Living Tribunal or COIE Anti-Monitor could defeat Firestorm. Also, please read the OP next time.

@thenewbluebeetle007: Not neccessarily, because of the Hulk's very high adaptive nature, he can survive it, or he can just bum rush Jason.btw...Jason was never the brightest firestorm, so fire power ewould be the key. And the Hulk has taken nuclear explosions before..multiple times.

Clearly you didn't see Plantman.

@itgreat_yourealizeyourgreat: oh you're a newbie

First off, welcome to the Vine!

Second, always always always read the OP before commenting. I specifically said don't say things like Mxy, Living Tribunal etc.

@iconrocket123: how exactly is hulk going to adapt to being transmuted?

Volthoom and Helspont just to throw some new-52 names in here.

superman, wonder woman, and martian manhunter. the list is too long to name all of them. any heavy hitters in the justice league can get him.

I exist in many forms across the Vine. I've been here since the beginning, I'm here now, and I will be here when it ends, perhaps even later on.

I did, it was a joke. It's a list someone else here uses, I use it too. If I didn't use it, when he got here he would. He may still.

@christianrapper: you sure about that?

creates absolute zero prison

goes subatomic

In brightest day he lasted for a full minute against the freaking Anti-Monitor

Superman and Wonder Woman aren't putting him down. Especially when he has intangibility.

Sersi if she fights smart

@thenewbluebeetle007: Firestorm beats Iceman 0.1/10 lol