Who can beat a 100,000,000 Tonner that has the durability of a balloon?

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#1  Edited By Fragneto
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#2  Edited By TheGoldenOne
WTF???
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#3  Edited By TheCerealKillz

Anyone with a needle.

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#4  Edited By tron_bonne

Sounds like Strong Guy.  He's strong but has no durability. Rockslide doesn't have good durability either, he keeps breaking into smaller rocks when he fights people stronger than him.

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#5  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
@tron_bonne said:
 He's strong but has no durability.
Where are you getting that?
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Anyone with a fork.

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#7  Edited By RoyalDivinity

He breaks his own body by the recoil of his strength..
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#8  Edited By TheSpiritStalker

A 100,000,000,000 Tonner with baloon durability

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#9  Edited By MrDirector786

Anyone or anything strong enough to tear through a balloon that's also able to avoid his attacks. A guy with a gun could beat this person.

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#10  Edited By OptimusPalm
@TheCerealKillz said:
Anyone with a needle.
@TheMightyAvenger said:
Anyone with a fork.
And provided that they are also slightly faster and more agile than the 100million tonner
 
And i vote C
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I'm gonna say my youngest cousin armed with scissors. 

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#12  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

A... no wait, B... no wait... damn this is hard.

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the list is huge

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#14  Edited By RoyalDivinity

Seriously guys... if YOU can hit at this level strength, you'll die from the recoil alone due to being too fragile to take it. He'll shatter himself apart if he hits anything.
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#15  Edited By Fragneto

He can regenerate instantly after he blows up. So who can defeat him?

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#16  Edited By NeonNemesis
@PunkMastaFlex said:
Seriously guys... if YOU can hit at this level strength, you'll die from the recoil alone due to being too fragile to take it. He'll shatter himself apart if he hits anything.
I was thinking exactly this, when he hits anything, it doesn't matter how strong he is, his body will give in unless what he hits is even weaker than he is.
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That guy would defeat himself by stepping on a stick on the ground.

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#18  Edited By Fragneto

But he regenerates everytime he blows up or inflates.

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#19  Edited By PikminMania
@Fragneto: Then he doesn't have the durability of a balloon. =)
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#20  Edited By Fragneto
@PikminMania said:
@Fragneto: Then he doesn't have the durability of a balloon. =)
He does, but as long as air is around, he can inflate himself.
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#21  Edited By NeonNemesis
@Fragneto said:
But he regenerates everytime he blows up or inflates.
Well he can't beat anyone either, his body blows up whenever it hits anyone.
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#22  Edited By joshmightbe

with the durability of a balloon he'd instantly die the second he tried to lift any weight over like 50 lbs, that level of power would be completely useless without high durability 

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#23  Edited By Mercy_

Then a telekinetic or Storm sucks the air out of wherever they are and then proceeds to own him.

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#24  Edited By Fragneto
@The Dark Huntress said:
Then a telekinetic or Storm sucks the air out of wherever they are and then proceeds to own him.
Awww
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@TheGoldenOne said:
WTF???
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#26  Edited By firewrkninja

In before the lock

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#27  Edited By joshmightbe

Do people not understand the link between strength and durability?

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#28  Edited By tron_bonne
@joshmightbe said:
Do people not understand the link between strength and durability?
Not every character can be Juggernaut.
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#29  Edited By Whisper_
@tron_bonne said:
@joshmightbe said:
Do people not understand the link between strength and durability?
Not every character can be Juggernaut.
The point he's making is that without the durability to be able to sustain the weight, super strength is pretty useless. 
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#30  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@tron_bonne said:
Sounds like Strong Guy.  He's strong but has no durability. Rockslide doesn't have good durability either, he keeps breaking into smaller rocks when he fights people stronger than him.
At least he has a pretty good healing factor.
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#31  Edited By Fluke-buddha

Kitty Pryde

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#32  Edited By joshmightbe
@tron_bonne: if he can't sustain the weight physically he can't lift it meaning that it is physically impossible for some one with the durability of a balloon to even be in this strength class because their body simply wouldn't be able to sustain it
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#33  Edited By alcoholbob

Bravo thread.

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#34  Edited By Fragneto

You guys aren't understanding the physics here. 
 
If a guy can punch with a force of 100,000,000 tons and it hits you. You're gonna die. 
Even if he has durability that is less than i'ts own strength. If he hits Colossus for example who has high durability, he might pop, but the pressure of the air being released from the punch is still give a force equal to 100,000,000 tons. This kind of pressure will knock out Colossus for sure! And what makes it worst is that even if the man explodes, he regenerates at the instant he explodes. So he explodes and implodes at 100,000,000 tons of pressure. 
 
 The Empire State Building weighs 365,000 tons 
 
  
That's the entire building. So if this guy upper cuts the building from below with the pressure of 100,000,000 tons, that means he could completely lift this building with ease and the excess pressure of force would carry this building from once it stood to the middle of the Altlantic Ocean. 
 
Going back to Colossus. Colossus despite his durability can not knock or lift the Empire State Building! If he gets hit with a 100,000,000 ton pressure punch, he could fly from New York and land somewhere in China. And if he was punched upwards, he would never make it down back to Earth.

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#35  Edited By Fragneto

Magneto is a good example of this: His powers can lift over 100,000,000 tons (When he lifted that island), and he can augment his physical status strength just as much when he fought Herc, Colossus and Thor with his bare hands. But his durability remains the same (human durability).... The only thing that protects him is a forcefield.

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@Fragneto said:

You guys aren't understanding the physics here. 
 
If a guy can punch with a force of 100,000,000 tons and it hits you. You're gonna die. 
Even if he has durability that is less than i'ts own strength. If he hits Colossus for example who has high durability, he might pop, but the pressure of the air being released from the punch is still give a force equal to 100,000,000 tons. This kind of pressure will knock out Colossus for sure! And what makes it worst is that even if the man explodes, he regenerates at the instant he explodes. So he explodes and implodes at 100,000,000 tons of pressure. 
 
 The Empire State Building weighs 365,000 tons    That's the entire building. So if this guy upper cuts the building from below with the pressure of 100,000,000 tons, that means he could completely lift this building with ease and the excess pressure of force would carry this building from once it stood to the middle of the Altlantic Ocean.  Going back to Colossus. Colossus despite his durability can not knock or lift the Empire State Building! If he gets hit with a 100,000,000 ton pressure punch, he could fly from New York and land somewhere in China. And if he was punched upwards, he would never make it down back to Earth.

A ton is a measurement of mass, not force. We have no way of knowing how much of that mass he can put into one hit and we have no way of knowing the velocity and therefore the impulse of this punch and therefore we have no way of knowing what his hits can achieve. 
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#37  Edited By Fragneto
@HowTerribleIsThat said:
@Fragneto said:

You guys aren't understanding the physics here. 
 
If a guy can punch with a force of 100,000,000 tons and it hits you. You're gonna die. 
Even if he has durability that is less than i'ts own strength. If he hits Colossus for example who has high durability, he might pop, but the pressure of the air being released from the punch is still give a force equal to 100,000,000 tons. This kind of pressure will knock out Colossus for sure! And what makes it worst is that even if the man explodes, he regenerates at the instant he explodes. So he explodes and implodes at 100,000,000 tons of pressure. 
 
 The Empire State Building weighs 365,000 tons    That's the entire building. So if this guy upper cuts the building from below with the pressure of 100,000,000 tons, that means he could completely lift this building with ease and the excess pressure of force would carry this building from once it stood to the middle of the Altlantic Ocean.  Going back to Colossus. Colossus despite his durability can not knock or lift the Empire State Building! If he gets hit with a 100,000,000 ton pressure punch, he could fly from New York and land somewhere in China. And if he was punched upwards, he would never make it down back to Earth.

A ton is a measurement of mass, not force. We have no way of knowing how much of that mass he can put into one hit and we have no way of knowing the velocity and therefore the impulse of this punch and therefore we have no way of knowing what his hits can achieve. 
The title is confusing because strong characters are classified by the tons they can lift. Not by the kilo newton. This character uses a shell for a body, but the entity itself is like... wind. So that's why he can pop and come back together again. Storm's winds can lift tankers but generally people on a comic site don't measure that power by its kilo newton. They measure it by the ton of the object being lifted.
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#39  Edited By joshmightbe
@Fragneto said:
You guys aren't understanding the physics here. 
 
If a guy can punch with a force of 100,000,000 tons and it hits you. You're gonna die. 
Even if he has durability that is less than i'ts own strength. If he hits Colossus for example who has high durability, he might pop, but the pressure of the air being released from the punch is still give a force equal to 100,000,000 tons. This kind of pressure will knock out Colossus for sure! And what makes it worst is that even if the man explodes, he regenerates at the instant he explodes. So he explodes and implodes at 100,000,000 tons of pressure. 
 
 The Empire State Building weighs 365,000 tons    That's the entire building. So if this guy upper cuts the building from below with the pressure of 100,000,000 tons, that means he could completely lift this building with ease and the excess pressure of force would carry this building from once it stood to the middle of the Altlantic Ocean.  Going back to Colossus. Colossus despite his durability can not knock or lift the Empire State Building! If he gets hit with a 100,000,000 ton pressure punch, he could fly from New York and land somewhere in China. And if he was punched upwards, he would never make it down back to Earth.
the problem here has nothing to do with how hard he can hit it's the fact that he doesn't have the durability required to even be in this strength range, if he was physically capable of lifting that much weight without ripping his body apart he'd have to at the very least be bullet proof but most likely far beyond that. one basic rule of common sense is that an person cannot hold more weight than their body is physically capable of enduring. The reason that you can't just lift whatever you want is because beyond a certain point your bones would break and you skin, muscles and tendons would tear 
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stalemate

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#41  Edited By Sherlock

Anyone with a needle

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#42  Edited By King_Saturn
me... I would get my BB Gun out and shot that sucka from yards away
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#43  Edited By Blood_guts

a 100,000,000 tonner with the durability of a needle

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#44  Edited By TrueIlluminatus
Say goodnight, Balloonman. 
Say goodnight, Balloonman. 
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#45  Edited By Fragneto
@demifiend said:
stalemate
Why did you say stalemate? 
 
  
 
 
@HowTerribleIsThat said: 
@Fragneto said: 

You guys aren't understanding the physics here. 
 
If a guy can punch with a force of 100,000,000 tons and it hits you. You're gonna die. 
Even if he has durability that is less than i'ts own strength. If he hits Colossus for example who has high durability, he might pop, but the pressure of the air being released from the punch is still give a force equal to 100,000,000 tons. This kind of pressure will knock out Colossus for sure! And what makes it worst is that even if the man explodes, he regenerates at the instant he explodes. So he explodes and implodes at 100,000,000 tons of pressure. 
 
 The Empire State Building weighs  365,000 tons    That's the entire building. So if this guy upper cuts the building from below with the pressure of 100,000,000 tons, that means he could completely lift this building with ease and the excess pressure of force would carry this building from once it stood to the middle of the Altlantic Ocean.  Going back to Colossus. Colossus despite his durability can not knock or lift the Empire State Building! If he gets hit with a 100,000,000 ton pressure punch, he could fly from New York and land somewhere in China. And if he was punched upwards, he would never make it down back to Earth.

A ton is a measurement of mass, not force. We have no way of knowing how much of that mass he can put into one hit and we have no way of knowing the velocity and therefore the impulse of this punch and therefore we have no way of knowing what his hits can achieve. 
The title is confusing because strong characters are classified by the tons they can lift. Not by the kilo newton. This character uses a shell for a body, but the entity itself is like... wind. So that's why he can pop and come back together again. Storm's winds can lift tankers but generally people on a comic site don't measure that power by its kilo newton. They measure it by the ton of the object being lifted.