#1 Posted by Fragneto (746 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Posted by TheGoldenOne (38849 posts) - - Show Bio
WTF???
#3 Posted by TheCerealKillz (10269 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone with a needle.

#4 Posted by tron_bonne (2286 posts) - - Show Bio

Sounds like Strong Guy.  He's strong but has no durability. Rockslide doesn't have good durability either, he keeps breaking into smaller rocks when he fights people stronger than him.

#5 Posted by Vance Astro (91349 posts) - - Show Bio
@tron_bonne said:
 He's strong but has no durability.
Where are you getting that?
Moderator
#6 Posted by TheMightyAvenger (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone with a fork.

#7 Posted by RoyalDivinity (3172 posts) - - Show Bio

He breaks his own body by the recoil of his strength..
#8 Posted by TheSpiritStalker (2104 posts) - - Show Bio

A 100,000,000,000 Tonner with baloon durability

#9 Posted by MrDirector786 (43633 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone or anything strong enough to tear through a balloon that's also able to avoid his attacks. A guy with a gun could beat this person.

#10 Posted by OptimusPalm (1803 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheCerealKillz said:
Anyone with a needle.
@TheMightyAvenger said:
Anyone with a fork.
And provided that they are also slightly faster and more agile than the 100million tonner
 
And i vote C
#11 Edited by HowTerribleIsThat (349 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gonna say my youngest cousin armed with scissors. 

#12 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (34249 posts) - - Show Bio

A... no wait, B... no wait... damn this is hard.

#13 Posted by Matezoide2 (15999 posts) - - Show Bio

the list is huge

#14 Posted by RoyalDivinity (3172 posts) - - Show Bio

Seriously guys... if YOU can hit at this level strength, you'll die from the recoil alone due to being too fragile to take it. He'll shatter himself apart if he hits anything.
#15 Posted by Fragneto (746 posts) - - Show Bio

He can regenerate instantly after he blows up. So who can defeat him?

#16 Posted by NeonNemesis (353 posts) - - Show Bio
@PunkMastaFlex said:
Seriously guys... if YOU can hit at this level strength, you'll die from the recoil alone due to being too fragile to take it. He'll shatter himself apart if he hits anything.
I was thinking exactly this, when he hits anything, it doesn't matter how strong he is, his body will give in unless what he hits is even weaker than he is.
#17 Posted by MagnusTheMagnificent (256 posts) - - Show Bio

That guy would defeat himself by stepping on a stick on the ground.

#18 Posted by Fragneto (746 posts) - - Show Bio

But he regenerates everytime he blows up or inflates.

#19 Posted by PikminMania (4628 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fragneto: Then he doesn't have the durability of a balloon. =)
#20 Posted by Fragneto (746 posts) - - Show Bio
@PikminMania said:
@Fragneto: Then he doesn't have the durability of a balloon. =)
He does, but as long as air is around, he can inflate himself.
#21 Posted by NeonNemesis (353 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fragneto said:
But he regenerates everytime he blows up or inflates.
Well he can't beat anyone either, his body blows up whenever it hits anyone.
#22 Edited by joshmightbe (25002 posts) - - Show Bio

with the durability of a balloon he'd instantly die the second he tried to lift any weight over like 50 lbs, that level of power would be completely useless without high durability 

Online
#23 Posted by Mercy_ (92985 posts) - - Show Bio

Then a telekinetic or Storm sucks the air out of wherever they are and then proceeds to own him.

Moderator
#24 Posted by Fragneto (746 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
Then a telekinetic or Storm sucks the air out of wherever they are and then proceeds to own him.
Awww
#25 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheGoldenOne said:
WTF???
#26 Posted by firewrkninja (362 posts) - - Show Bio

In before the lock

#27 Posted by joshmightbe (25002 posts) - - Show Bio

Do people not understand the link between strength and durability?

Online
#28 Posted by tron_bonne (2286 posts) - - Show Bio
@joshmightbe said:
Do people not understand the link between strength and durability?
Not every character can be Juggernaut.
#29 Posted by Whisper_ (3464 posts) - - Show Bio
@tron_bonne said:
@joshmightbe said:
Do people not understand the link between strength and durability?
Not every character can be Juggernaut.
The point he's making is that without the durability to be able to sustain the weight, super strength is pretty useless. 
#30 Posted by JediXMan (31206 posts) - - Show Bio
@tron_bonne said:
Sounds like Strong Guy.  He's strong but has no durability. Rockslide doesn't have good durability either, he keeps breaking into smaller rocks when he fights people stronger than him.
At least he has a pretty good healing factor.
Moderator
#31 Posted by Fluke-buddha (644 posts) - - Show Bio

Kitty Pryde

#32 Posted by joshmightbe (25002 posts) - - Show Bio
@tron_bonne: if he can't sustain the weight physically he can't lift it meaning that it is physically impossible for some one with the durability of a balloon to even be in this strength class because their body simply wouldn't be able to sustain it
Online
#33 Posted by alcoholbob (1192 posts) - - Show Bio

Bravo thread.

#34 Posted by Fragneto (746 posts) - - Show Bio

You guys aren't understanding the physics here. 
 
If a guy can punch with a force of 100,000,000 tons and it hits you. You're gonna die. 
Even if he has durability that is less than i'ts own strength. If he hits Colossus for example who has high durability, he might pop, but the pressure of the air being released from the punch is still give a force equal to 100,000,000 tons. This kind of pressure will knock out Colossus for sure! And what makes it worst is that even if the man explodes, he regenerates at the instant he explodes. So he explodes and implodes at 100,000,000 tons of pressure. 
 
 The Empire State Building weighs  365,000 tons 
 
  
That's the entire building. So if this guy upper cuts the building from below with the pressure of 100,000,000 tons, that means he could completely lift this building with ease and the excess pressure of force would carry this building from once it stood to the middle of the Altlantic Ocean. 
 
Going back to Colossus. Colossus despite his durability can not knock or lift the Empire State Building! If he gets hit with a 100,000,000 ton pressure punch, he could fly from New York and land somewhere in China. And if he was punched upwards, he would never make it down back to Earth.

#35 Posted by Fragneto (746 posts) - - Show Bio

Magneto is a good example of this: His powers can lift over 100,000,000 tons (When he lifted that island), and he can augment his physical status strength just as much when he fought Herc, Colossus and Thor with his bare hands. But his durability remains the same (human durability).... The only thing that protects him is a forcefield.

#36 Edited by HowTerribleIsThat (349 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fragneto said:

You guys aren't understanding the physics here. 
 
If a guy can punch with a force of 100,000,000 tons and it hits you. You're gonna die. 
Even if he has durability that is less than i'ts own strength. If he hits Colossus for example who has high durability, he might pop, but the pressure of the air being released from the punch is still give a force equal to 100,000,000 tons. This kind of pressure will knock out Colossus for sure! And what makes it worst is that even if the man explodes, he regenerates at the instant he explodes. So he explodes and implodes at 100,000,000 tons of pressure. 
 
 The Empire State Building weighs  365,000 tons    That's the entire building. So if this guy upper cuts the building from below with the pressure of 100,000,000 tons, that means he could completely lift this building with ease and the excess pressure of force would carry this building from once it stood to the middle of the Altlantic Ocean.  Going back to Colossus. Colossus despite his durability can not knock or lift the Empire State Building! If he gets hit with a 100,000,000 ton pressure punch, he could fly from New York and land somewhere in China. And if he was punched upwards, he would never make it down back to Earth.

A ton is a measurement of mass, not force. We have no way of knowing how much of that mass he can put into one hit and we have no way of knowing the velocity and therefore the impulse of this punch and therefore we have no way of knowing what his hits can achieve. 
#37 Posted by Fragneto (746 posts) - - Show Bio
@HowTerribleIsThat said:
@Fragneto said:

You guys aren't understanding the physics here. 
 
If a guy can punch with a force of 100,000,000 tons and it hits you. You're gonna die. 
Even if he has durability that is less than i'ts own strength. If he hits Colossus for example who has high durability, he might pop, but the pressure of the air being released from the punch is still give a force equal to 100,000,000 tons. This kind of pressure will knock out Colossus for sure! And what makes it worst is that even if the man explodes, he regenerates at the instant he explodes. So he explodes and implodes at 100,000,000 tons of pressure. 
 
 The Empire State Building weighs  365,000 tons    That's the entire building. So if this guy upper cuts the building from below with the pressure of 100,000,000 tons, that means he could completely lift this building with ease and the excess pressure of force would carry this building from once it stood to the middle of the Altlantic Ocean.  Going back to Colossus. Colossus despite his durability can not knock or lift the Empire State Building! If he gets hit with a 100,000,000 ton pressure punch, he could fly from New York and land somewhere in China. And if he was punched upwards, he would never make it down back to Earth.

A ton is a measurement of mass, not force. We have no way of knowing how much of that mass he can put into one hit and we have no way of knowing the velocity and therefore the impulse of this punch and therefore we have no way of knowing what his hits can achieve. 
The title is confusing because strong characters are classified by the tons they can lift. Not by the kilo newton. This character uses a shell for a body, but the entity itself is like... wind. So that's why he can pop and come back together again. Storm's winds can lift tankers but generally people on a comic site don't measure that power by its kilo newton. They measure it by the ton of the object being lifted.
#38 Posted by Enzeru--defunct (2923 posts) - - Show Bio

Everyone who is faster then the moment can pull it easily off. 

Zoom, Flash and probably every other speedster who can travel with the speed of the light, by simply destroying Balloonman and running / flying away from the wind-pressure.
The same goes for teleporters who could attack him from a distance with a range-weapon and teleport instantly away.

#39 Posted by joshmightbe (25002 posts) - - Show Bio
@Fragneto said:
You guys aren't understanding the physics here. 
 
If a guy can punch with a force of 100,000,000 tons and it hits you. You're gonna die. 
Even if he has durability that is less than i'ts own strength. If he hits Colossus for example who has high durability, he might pop, but the pressure of the air being released from the punch is still give a force equal to 100,000,000 tons. This kind of pressure will knock out Colossus for sure! And what makes it worst is that even if the man explodes, he regenerates at the instant he explodes. So he explodes and implodes at 100,000,000 tons of pressure. 
 
 The Empire State Building weighs  365,000 tons    That's the entire building. So if this guy upper cuts the building from below with the pressure of 100,000,000 tons, that means he could completely lift this building with ease and the excess pressure of force would carry this building from once it stood to the middle of the Altlantic Ocean.  Going back to Colossus. Colossus despite his durability can not knock or lift the Empire State Building! If he gets hit with a 100,000,000 ton pressure punch, he could fly from New York and land somewhere in China. And if he was punched upwards, he would never make it down back to Earth.
the problem here has nothing to do with how hard he can hit it's the fact that he doesn't have the durability required to even be in this strength range, if he was physically capable of lifting that much weight without ripping his body apart he'd have to at the very least be bullet proof but most likely far beyond that. one basic rule of common sense is that an person cannot hold more weight than their body is physically capable of enduring. The reason that you can't just lift whatever you want is because beyond a certain point your bones would break and you skin, muscles and tendons would tear 
Online
#40 Posted by demifiend (3575 posts) - - Show Bio

stalemate

#41 Posted by Sherlock (7277 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone with a needle

#42 Edited by King Saturn (224692 posts) - - Show Bio
me... I would get my BB Gun out and shot that sucka from yards away
#43 Posted by Blood_guts (1311 posts) - - Show Bio

a 100,000,000 tonner with the durability of a needle

#44 Posted by Illuminatus (9510 posts) - - Show Bio
Say goodnight, Balloonman. 
#45 Posted by Fragneto (746 posts) - - Show Bio
@demifiend said:
stalemate
Why did you say stalemate? 
 
  
 
 
@HowTerribleIsThat said: 
@Fragneto said: 

You guys aren't understanding the physics here. 
 
If a guy can punch with a force of 100,000,000 tons and it hits you. You're gonna die. 
Even if he has durability that is less than i'ts own strength. If he hits Colossus for example who has high durability, he might pop, but the pressure of the air being released from the punch is still give a force equal to 100,000,000 tons. This kind of pressure will knock out Colossus for sure! And what makes it worst is that even if the man explodes, he regenerates at the instant he explodes. So he explodes and implodes at 100,000,000 tons of pressure. 
 
 The Empire State Building weighs  365,000 tons    That's the entire building. So if this guy upper cuts the building from below with the pressure of 100,000,000 tons, that means he could completely lift this building with ease and the excess pressure of force would carry this building from once it stood to the middle of the Altlantic Ocean.  Going back to Colossus. Colossus despite his durability can not knock or lift the Empire State Building! If he gets hit with a 100,000,000 ton pressure punch, he could fly from New York and land somewhere in China. And if he was punched upwards, he would never make it down back to Earth.

A ton is a measurement of mass, not force. We have no way of knowing how much of that mass he can put into one hit and we have no way of knowing the velocity and therefore the impulse of this punch and therefore we have no way of knowing what his hits can achieve. 
The title is confusing because strong characters are classified by the tons they can lift. Not by the kilo newton. This character uses a shell for a body, but the entity itself is like... wind. So that's why he can pop and come back together again. Storm's winds can lift tankers but generally people on a comic site don't measure that power by its kilo newton. They measure it by the ton of the object being lifted.