White Phoenix of the Crown vs Flash (Wally West)

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@supermanwithatan01: You think your gonna hurt my feeling by calling me name wow. An i dont seem.ignorant u cant understand what im explaining.

1) I did not say she was cloning her i said she move her body or molecules for her in turn creating kinetic energy. Now am I right or wrong

2) I wasnt.focusing on her reanimating her I was focusing on how THE PHOENIX PICKED JEAN UP. Showing the Phoenix can use telekinesis.

3)My point is that a cosmic entity is something totally different an.u cant assume that u can do the same to a cosmic entity as u can to a human. An i doubt the phoenix is made up of molecules at all.

4) Im well aware of the topic thanks.An im on my phone but again im sure you've read endsong an saw when the phoenix picked.jean up an then brought her back to life showing the phoenix does not need a host to use ITS power. Thats like saying Cyttorak cant use the powers he grants any avatar of his.

AN ILL KEEP SAYING IT.TILL U GET IT

An your welcome :)

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@supermanwithatan01: You think your gonna hurt my feeling by calling me name wow. An i dont seem.ignorant u cant understand what im explaining.

1) I did not say she was cloning her i said she move her body or molecules for her in turn creating kinetic energy. Now am I right or wrong

2) I wasnt.focusing on her reanimating her I was focusing on how THE PHOENIX PICKED JEAN UP. Showing the Phoenix can use telekinesis.

3)My point is that a cosmic entity is something totally different an.u cant assume that u can do the same to a cosmic entity as u can to a human. An i doubt the phoenix is made up of molecules at all.

4) Im well aware of the topic thanks.An im on my phone but again im sure you've read endsong an saw when the phoenix picked.jean up an then brought her back to life showing the phoenix does not need a host to use ITS power. Thats like saying Cyttorak cant use the powers he grants any avatar of his.

AN ILL KEEP SAYING IT.TILL U GET IT

An your welcome :)

1) Forget it, you won't get it. Moving her body like from point a to point b? or like controlling her limbs? I'm confused on what you're saying here.

2) Still irrelevant to the point you were making? You're implying the force would simply recreate her dead body or move her? That doesn't matter since she isn't dead and the PF has no say of KE.

3) Kinetic energy is in anything physical. Particles are smaller than atoms, which are smaller than molecules...

4) Cyttorak needs an avatar to show the world his power. It's still HIS power. Phoenix lifting Jean, proving it has the power to bring someone back to life isn't impressive since it's called the fires of creation.

Lets finish this tomorrow.

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@supermanwithatan01 said:

@ghostravage: lol so you're a free agent looking for the best team. Well check out

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/wally-west-719/wally-wests-top-speed-best-feats-598821/

And ask @dredeuced and @zoom about what the speedforce has done.

Until then WPOTC >>> Dp

Green Phoenix is an incarnation as well. And evidently the Goblin force > Phoenix Force

<3

The point was the Goblin force consumed the Phoenix force in that universe. Dark Phoenix is no where near WPOTC power, which was my original purpose. I was sarcastically saying Goblin Force must be > Phoenix Force if we're saying the Dark Phoenix, with no feats compared to those of the WCP, is nigh-unbeatable. The statement was an innuendo suggesting that the PF can be beat, and that just because someone defeats you doesn't make them more powerful, otherwise "And evidently the Goblin force > Phoenix Force"

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Flash curbstomps.. just kidding lol, Flash fanboys are getting out of control they are even worse then DBZ fanboys. I am not sure we are reading the same Flash characters.In JL series 90% of the time he is not even considered as their top tier league heroes, and in his own series his all enemies that he is having hard time are Spiderman level foes(some of Spiderman foes are even more formidable)

Which series is that?

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@supermanwithatan01: Ill post today or ill forget to you can reply tomorrow

1)I get it u dont. If she were to move jean molecules it would create an transfer kinetic energy.throughout her entire body giving her movement again.

2) I am not saying she would recreate her. U said prove.that the phoenix can use its powers without a host an i gave examples

3)Uh no heat is essentially a lot of kinetic energy but it is not physical

4)WHAT really So Storm Creating a Storm isnt impressive because its her name Dust turning into dust/sand isnt impressive because its her name. An either way thats irrelevant because I proved that the Phoenix can use its powers without a host.

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@supermanwithatan01: Don't know why you stated that if im pretty sure i told you what i was planning to do... I just want to see how powerful the speedforce can be here... Is it abl to defeat nigh-omnipotent beings? We dont know... Therefore, lets see some viners opinions...

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So is the Flash fanboys going to justify how he's going to beat WPOTC?

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@zhurong: really is her only attack is used by her mind... flash can just snap her nack if he's bloodlusted before she can even think... however, I think she is a reality warper... so she could take this effortlessly

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Both Bloodlusted

Fight to death/incapacitation/KO.

Who wins... Im really curious to know who wins since i've perceived some major upgrade on Flash abilities which suggests he maybe can take on this character...

Debate!

Son I'm disappoint.

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Agree with Green _Skaar

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@green_skaar: Well,Ghost made this months ago when he still consider new.

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At this point.. Even if jean still has a mortal body... She's beyond Wally ! I mean seriously... What could he do to her ?

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#64  Edited By manifold

I... I... I can't even. Do people really think Wally has a chance? (obviously by what I've seen people do) I want to know what is Wally going to do to a being made of pure energy punch through it? WPoTC manipulates reality at a universal level correct? Yeah Wally does not win here ever?

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@beware_my_power: technically the Phoenix cant die she is like Doomsday would come back to life even more powerful

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#66  Edited By jwwprod

Phoenix.

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@zhurong: the host can die AFAIK, but as I said reality warping>>>>>>>Flash

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#69  Edited By Beware_My_Power

@zhurong: sorry about my fellow flash fans wanking him so much...

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@beware_my_power: its okay I think battles like this should be created more often

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@zhurong: nah, that would be a spite... then YOU would be the person wanking xD

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This wrong! This is just wrong!

Flash is very powerful but WPOTC? Seriously?

Ok now wait and watch a Flash fanboy post scans of Wally busting COIE Anti-Monitor armour.

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phoenix stomps

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Flash is fast but he isn't fast enough to do this.

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#77  Edited By GhostRavage

@dondave: @green_skaar: Get lost! Both of you! Those were dark days and someone rustled my jimmies fosho to make create this thread ( ._.)

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@dondave: @green_skaar: Get lost! Both of you! Those were dark days and someone rustled my jimmies fosho to make create this thread ( ._.)

Once I saw your name on this one I couldn't resist!

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Dude, I know most flash fanboys think he is akin to god, but WPOTC IS GOD.... flash dies.

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#83  Edited By eternityx

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This is a spite thread, WPOTC effortlessly wins in a murderstomp.

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@zhurong said:

So is the Flash fanboys going to justify how he's going to beat WPOTC?

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Can someone please lock this?

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Flash is powerful, but at some point, you got to draw a line.