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#1 Posted by ULTRAstarkiller (6294 posts) - - Show Bio

Silver Surfers at full power

Kyle has a fulls ring charge

Fight takes place in space

#2 Edited by ULTRAstarkiller (6294 posts) - - Show Bio

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#3 Posted by eisjfiejss (513 posts) - - Show Bio

Kyle annihilates.

#4 Edited by deathmedal (102 posts) - - Show Bio

Kyle is a BEAST nowa days.

#5 Posted by Sovereign91001 (4841 posts) - - Show Bio

Kyle.

#6 Edited by TheIrishDoctor (567 posts) - - Show Bio

This is basically what was said in my White Lantern runs the gauntlet battle a while back. I asked for feats showing that White Lantern really is that strong, but no one ever gave me any. So I ask again, what are WL's feats?

#7 Edited by russellmania77 (15758 posts) - - Show Bio

white power

#8 Posted by dondave (38796 posts) - - Show Bio

Kyle

#9 Edited by isaac_clarke (5460 posts) - - Show Bio

So has Kyle done anything outside fight the Guardians with a rainbow of other lanterns?

#10 Edited by Saren (26022 posts) - - Show Bio

Kyle hasn't actually done anything yet, and probably won't until Justin Jordan's run starts.

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#11 Posted by Killemall (18640 posts) - - Show Bio

So has Kyle done anything outside fight the Guardians with a rainbow of other lanterns?

Nope he hasnt, he has just been on the receiving end of The First Lantern's manipulation. Until the First Lantern dies not sure if Kyle would really have any feats. That being said i am normally 1 issue behind people in USA.

#12 Edited by ULTRAstarkiller (6294 posts) - - Show Bio

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#13 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (34342 posts) - - Show Bio

Couldn't Norrin just instantly decharge Kyle's ring?

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#14 Posted by dondave (38796 posts) - - Show Bio

Couldn't Norrin just instantly decharge Kyle's ring?

Kyle could do the same to him

#15 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (34342 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@jonny_anonymous said:

Couldn't Norrin just instantly decharge Kyle's ring?

Kyle could do the same to him

Really?

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#16 Posted by Cgoodness (5493 posts) - - Show Bio

Ya I wouldn't doubt if Kyle just drained SS :/ he did it in a crossover (yes I know non canon, but still).

#17 Posted by dondave (38796 posts) - - Show Bio
#18 Posted by RetconCrisis (4434 posts) - - Show Bio

By power scaling and ABC logic, Kyle wins.

White Lantern Kyle > Sinestro Parallax > All of the Guardians of the Universe = Silver Surfer

By feats, we need to wait a while before WL actually gets much more feats. But if Kyle decides to feed on Silver Surfer's emotions, he can win, but that would have to be a morals off Rayner.

#19 Posted by Cgoodness (5493 posts) - - Show Bio
#20 Posted by DeathandGrim (2072 posts) - - Show Bio

@cgoodness: it was. It's considered canon by both companies, but rarely mentioned be either.

#21 Edited by dondave (38796 posts) - - Show Bio
#22 Edited by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: @cgoodness: @deathandgrim: @dondave: technically it's not canon anymore since New 52 reboot in which all previous DC history was erased so... also if all previous DC history was erased then the marvel universe should have also been affected as DC would have never meet but it wasn't ergo it wasn't canon

#23 Posted by reaverlation (16996 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12: The Green Lanterns weren't retconned in New 52 though

#24 Posted by DeathandGrim (2072 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12: Green Lanterns avoided that because of previous storylines right?

#25 Posted by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@deathandgrim: @reaverlation: really have they mentioned jade or Allan scott and why they have to change customs seems like a retcoon

#26 Edited by dondave (38796 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12: There costumes are the same, Kyle's is the only that's changed and that was because he got a new power up, in the first few issues of New Guardians he had his Pre-52 suit and Geoff Johns has confirmed that Pre-52 stories are canon for the Green Lantern family.

#27 Posted by reaverlation (16996 posts) - - Show Bio
#28 Edited by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: That was stupid also Hal Jordan's suit changed he got the armor on the sides and maybe what he mean't by that is because we never saw Jason Todd die but that he still considered canon and that's how red hood came to be so maybe all this happened at one time in the new 52

#29 Posted by dondave (38796 posts) - - Show Bio

@mikep12 said:

@dondave: That was stupid also Hal Jordan's suit changed he got the armor on the sides and maybe what he mean't by that is because we never saw Jason Todd die but that he still considered canon and that's how red hood came to be so maybe all this happened at one time in the new 52

We have seen Jason Todd die in the New 52.

#30 Posted by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: isn't that how things work from what I know Jason Todd died and was resurrected in the pit of green de aging green stuff they just skip it

#31 Edited by keithcolby1995 (481 posts) - - Show Bio

@theirishdoctor: The OP didn't list off the ring's powers. It is really that strong.

Life Energy Conduit: The white ring draws on and is connected to the powers of life and creation.

  • Emotional Spectrum Dominance: The white light is the first light and in essence, all of the other colors of the emotional spectrum combined. As such, a user of a white ring can generate any color of the emotional spectrum and use the powers of each color. The white ring also allows the user to access the rings of any member of any of the other corps and observe these members.
  • Energy Blasts: They can fire energy blasts.
  • Force Field Generation: The white power ring can create various forcefields of various sizes and shapes to protect the user and others around him/her. These force fields protect him/her from the hazards of the void including filtration of stellar radiation and microscopic particulate matter which would ordinarily be fatal should the space debris strike the ring wielder at high speeds. An atmosphere appropriate to the person's biology is created inside the force-field, body temperature is maintained and waste products are removed. Gravitational stresses which could cause injury are stabilized. Theoretically, a white lantern could use the ring as his/her/its sole source of life support.
  • Energy Constructs: The white ring can form constructs of white energy. The primary function of the Power Ring is to provide a weapon capable of transforming the wearer's thoughts into physical constructs through the wearer's mastery of life and the entire emotional spectrum.A white lantern can create any particular items or construct that they can imagine as long as they have the mastery of emotions necessary to will it into existence. The constructs are made out of white energy, which is a tangible form of pure life, and they exist only as long as a white lantern is fueling it with their mastery of life energy. Items created by the rings are not indestructible and are only as powerful as the force of emotions of the white lantern that created them.
  • Phasing: a white power ring allows the wielder to pass through certain solid objects, such as walls. Which objects that are not penetrable are not known, but it may depend upon the strength of the user and the density of the object's molecular structure.
  • Environmental Playback: Upon their will, the white lantern can recreate a holographic environment based on data in its memory banks.
  • Invisibility & Light Refraction: A white lantern can render him/her/itself invisible by willing themselves to bend light waves around his/her/its form.
  • Energy Absorption: The white ring can absorb and store most other energies including the energy of the other colors in the emotional spectrum.
  • Flight: By the manipulation of anti-gravitons and directed molecular movement, they can fly at incredible speeds. In atmosphere, a white lanternl has been known to fly as fast as Mach 10 in atmosphere by creating an aerodynamic envelope around his body. Towing others, usually within a bubble, his/her speed is limited to the twice the speed of sound or 1440 mph. In space,a white lantern speed can be significantly greater and has been known to approach 80% of lightspeed in normal space. Flight is possible at velocities exceeding light speed. In atmospheres, air friction is not a hindrance, since heat is either absorbed or reflected by the ring's field.
  • Wormholes & Spacial Warps: Their power grants its wearer access to wormholes in space, enabling the them to rapidly cut time and distance needed for transport.

  • Healing: The white rings have the ability to heal almost any injury, initial complete cellular regeneration, and in some instances resurrect the dead.

  • Connection to Life: The white ring uses the energy of life and so is connected to all life. The ring can allow users to see the foot prints of life and see the past and present conditions of all life in a limited area around the user and even the "souls" or essence of those who have recently died.

from DCwikia

#32 Edited by thanosii (1332 posts) - - Show Bio

@keithcolby1995: wiki are not reliable and besides Surfer has all those powers and more

#33 Posted by Superman19 (173 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

#34 Posted by Thedailybagel (4873 posts) - - Show Bio

Norrin.... I think

#35 Edited by EnergizerBunny (103 posts) - - Show Bio

KYLE

#36 Posted by D3MON (370 posts) - - Show Bio

Morals off, Silver Surfer wins. Reaction time counts.

#37 Posted by highaccuser (7982 posts) - - Show Bio

Kyle has a good chance without the white lantern power amp.

#38 Posted by reaverlation (16996 posts) - - Show Bio

Surfer stomps all Lanterns at the same time!!!

#39 Edited by Superman19 (173 posts) - - Show Bio
#40 Edited by XiiX (9147 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaverlation: Exactly. He will use mattermanipulationblackhole/singularityintheirfaces before trappingtheminhisboardintheastralplanewherehe'somnipotent before they can blink like he does all the time.

He can do all they can, and more. Remember all those times he used energy-constructs that were so much MORE than any Lantern's?

Spite.

#41 Posted by Sebast_Allen (1728 posts) - - Show Bio

Kyle wins this easily. First off, someone show me Surfer resisting every one of his emotions being used against him, if not, Kyle scares the shiz out of him, rips the will and hope from his being or subdue's him with his will.

''Surfer stalls till the ring runs out'', well fanboy#653, if you actually read New Lanterns, you would know that Kyle can recharge his own ring = total stompage.

''Surfer Blitzes the ring off'', fanboy, we've talked about this already, Kyle's ring materialises onto him through it's own power, unintentionally, so it's not coming off of Kyle anytime soon.

#42 Edited by reaverlation (16996 posts) - - Show Bio

@xiix: Remember that Lanterns have human reactions and Surfer is faster than Wally West as well

#43 Edited by XiiX (9147 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaverlation: He don't gotta explain sh!t.

Because power-cosmic.

Therefor he's immune to having his momentum stolen, his energy drained, his mind violated and and being hurt by pretty much anything at all, unless it exceeds a super-nova, which might just scratch him(MAYBE).

Because power-cosmic.

#44 Posted by reaverlation (16996 posts) - - Show Bio

@xiix: Pssh even @dondave agrees that Surfer stomps all Lanterns in a nanosecond!

#45 Edited by XiiX (9147 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaverlation: Exactly.

Can anyone show me a scan of Surfer getting harmed by a Green-Lantern?

No. And crossovers don't count, unless I say so/it supports my argument.

You'd need to add at least the other Corps, but once he jumps in the astral-plane like he did all those 1 times, he stomps because he said he can't be drained there.

If you can't drain him, that means he's unbeatable there/omnipotent.

You can't deny this.

#46 Posted by reaverlation (16996 posts) - - Show Bio

@xiix: Surfer stomps Volthoom because of the Astral Plane and the Big Crunch!

#47 Posted by dondave (38796 posts) - - Show Bio

XiiX has said it all

#48 Edited by XiiX (9147 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaverlation: As you can see here, it's confirmed on panel that Surfer IS power. Lanterns need power for their rings to work, and Surfer wouldn't give them any.

He just says "no", then they have no power.

You can't deny this.

/Thread.

#49 Edited by reaverlation (16996 posts) - - Show Bio

@xiix: I wonder who would win:He-Man or Surfer in a contest of power

#50 Posted by XiiX (9147 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaverlation:

Step 1. He-Man has the power

Step 2. Surfer is power

Step 3. Surfer has the power-cosmic/astral-plane

Step 4. He-Man has the power, which Silver-Surfer is along with the astral-plane

Step 5. ?????????

Step 6. Omnipotence via astral-plane because power-cosmic profit.