@username12345: Yet, Wonder Woman has consistently been shown to be a sub-light speeder, trade blows with Superman, Green Lantern, Doomsday etc. and tank nukes. Does that mean that Batman is at the same level as them? Or are you saying that Wonder Woman is at street level? There is such a thing as inconsistency and bad writing you know.
he did exactly what in these scans???? nothing.. He sparred with wonder woman once and tripped her,, you might as well show that one since none of these show anything
I don't think you understand. That was them actually having fist fights. No holding back. "Nothing"? He just squashed Wonder Wimp
You're confused about Tower of Babel perhaps?
Wonder woman can take punches from the likes of doomsday, superman, and whomever else you want to put in there but yet a kick from batman actually hurts her???
Yes, because Batman is a beast who hits as hard as a missile.
@username12345: Yet, Wonder Woman has consistently been shown to be a sub-light speeder, trade blows with Superman, Green Lantern, etc. and tank nukes. Does that mean that Batman is at the same level as them? Or are you saying that Wonder Woman is at street level?
@username12345: Yet, Wonder Woman has consistently been shown to be a sub-light speeder, trade blows with Superman, Green Lantern, etc. and tank nukes. Does that mean that Batman is at the same level as them? Or are you saying that Wonder Woman is at street level?
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how old are you? If you are young then I will give you a pass on not realizing how wrong you are but If you are in your early to mid twenties then you should know better.
@username12345: Yet you don't simply ignore and don't tag back?You clearly don't see they are PIS,because they are PIS and it will never stop being PIS
@username12345: Yet, Wonder Woman has consistently been shown to be a sub-light speeder, trade blows with Superman, Green Lantern, etc. and tank nukes. Does that mean that Batman is at the same level as them? Or are you saying that Wonder Woman is at street level?
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how old are you? If you are young then I will give you a pass on not realizing how wrong you are but If you are in your early to mid twenties then you should know better.
@username12345: Yet, Wonder Woman has consistently been shown to be a sub-light speeder, trade blows with Superman, Green Lantern, etc. and tank nukes. Does that mean that Batman is at the same level as them? Or are you saying that Wonder Woman is at street level?
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how old are you? If you are young then I will give you a pass on not realizing how wrong you are but If you are in your early to mid twenties then you should know better.
When you actually attempt to form a coherent response instead of scan bombing me with inconsistent and bad writing PIS, let me know.
When you actually respond instead of spamming memes let me know(?)
What do you want me to say?
oh ok,, then I forgive you.. You need to branch your reading out and eventually you will see that just because your favorite character does something doesn't necessarily mean he can or is supposed to be able to do that. Bats is in everything so writers tend to take more liberties with him than any other character except maybe wolverine in marvel. They both are chalked full of pis or wis showings. Bats may have one of these showing for every 1000 appearances. That is why its PIS or WIS... Its the liberty in which the writer takes because bats is in yet another title...
@username12345: Because you need to be reminded you are wrong about everything about Batman,but you could had simply ignored it and move along,but didn't at all
@newecho: I'm also 17 year old and I truly know where Batman's limits lie at
well you may have matured faster or have a broader reading scope than he.. I give him the benefit of the doubt. Unless he doesn't accept learning. I am 37 and I learn things all the time from people in their early twenties who haven't been reading comics for near as long as I have but yet they have a better understanding of certain areas...
oh ok,, then I forgive you.. You need to branch your reading out and eventually you will see that just because your favorite character does something doesn't necessarily mean he can or is supposed to be able to do that. Bats is in everything so writers tend to take more liberties with him than any other character except maybe wolverine in marvel. They both are chalked full of pis or wish showings. Bats may have one of these showing for every 1000 appearances. That is why its PIS or WIS... Its the liberty in which the writer takes because bats is in yet another title...
Well when people fly around because the sun is different, then I think it's fine for humans to do extreme things. I said this once, "DardDevil is blind and Barbra Gordon is paraplegic yet people don't care when they perform abilities that humans aren't capable of, they only call out how Batman can do nearly metahuman things.".
Batman can beat Iron fist because Batman beat up Wonder woman. Evidence suggests he did this, because he did.
Done with my persuasive essay?
The problem with your 'persuasive essay' is that the sources are unreliable. You think you would get away with turning in a paper with Wikipedia in your works cited page? I don't think so. If Wonder Woman has ever been bested by a street leveler like Batman, it was due to bad writing or plot induced stupidity.
Again, I ask, due to these showings, is Wonder Woman a street leveler as a result of Batman besting her? Or is Batman a high tier? Which is it?
oh ok,, then I forgive you.. You need to branch your reading out and eventually you will see that just because your favorite character does something doesn't necessarily mean he can or is supposed to be able to do that. Bats is in everything so writers tend to take more liberties with him than any other character except maybe wolverine in marvel. They both are chalked full of pis or wish showings. Bats may have one of these showing for every 1000 appearances. That is why its PIS or WIS... Its the liberty in which the writer takes because bats is in yet another title...
Well when people fly around because the sun is different, then I think it's fine for humans to do extreme things. I said this once, "DardDevil is blind and Barbra Gordon is paraplegic yet people don't care when they perform abilities that humans aren't capable of, they only call out how Batman can do nearly metahuman things.".
that's their power set, ie hal, Diana, clark all can sustain trips to the sun so it would not be questioned. Daredevil is blind so his powerset allowed him to have a radar in which he can see and perform tasks with and he also has an oversized equilibrium in which he makes him be faster and stronger than peak human but that is for another discussion. Barbara was smart,, she didn't perform unbelievable tasks while she was Oracle except she got smarter.... People aren't saying bats isn't a top level human combatant but he has limits. You need to actually see those limits...
that's their power set, ie hal, Diana, clark all can sustain trips to the sun so it would not be questioned. Daredevil is blind so his powerset allowed him to have a radar in which he can see and perform tasks with and he also has an oversized equilibrium in which he makes him be faster and stronger than peak human but that is for another discussion. Barbara was smart,, she didn't perform unbelievable tasks while she was Oracle except she got smarter.... People aren't saying bats isn't a top level human combatant but he has limits. You need to actually see those limits...
@username12345: well then you will never be taken seriously on here and eventually you will have to change your user names because no one will answer you
@username12345: well then you will never be taken seriously on here and eventually you will have to change your user names because no one will answer you
@username12345: Okay, so by inadvertently dodging the question I assume that means you think Batman is a high tiered hero. If he was high-tiered does that make Bane high tiered too? Or Deathstroke? Since they've both owned Batman before?
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Do you now see the inconsistency in your logic? If Batman was a class 100 like you are implying then would he get owned by people that are street level?
@username12345: Okay, so by inadvertently dodging the question I assume that means you think Batman is a high tiered hero. If he was high-tiered does that make Bane high tiered too? Or Deathstroke? Since they've both owned Batman before?
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Do you now see the inconsistency in your logic? If Batman was a class 100 like you are implying then would he get owned by people that are street level?
See here I was just an average joe, thinking Batman would lose to Captain America, but when in reality, Wejun Chew had found a new body host, and had come back to school everyone on how Batman could take on the Justice League WITHOUT prep.
@noone301994: Should find the scans from when Bats was chasing after an Amazon in Gotham and Diana told him to leave it to her and she casually kicked his ass to get him to stop, lol.
@username12345: I , with all due respect , ask you to tell us the reasons why you believe that Batman can go against Wonder Woman , without including any scans and only rely on facts . I believe that Batman has a chance against Iron Fist but really it's just 1/10 or in the best case 2/10 .
@username12345: I , with all due respect , ask you to tell us the reasons why you believe that Batman can go against Wonder Woman , without including any scans and only rely on facts .
"Unrealizable sources"? Those were just comic scenes...
That you aparently don't even know the context of.
Again, pretty presumptuous. I do know the context of them. Also, @noone301994 used Banes famous batbreaker as an argument, when Batman had to face sickness, extreme violence whilst fighting all the Arkham inmates, and mental health problems because of fear gas, and all the Arkham inmates escaping. Not only that, but he used cover art to justify his opinion. So apparently your bro here doesn't understand the context...
@username12345: I , with all due respect , ask you to tell us the reasons why you believe that Batman can go against Wonder Woman , without including any scans and only rely on facts .
"Unrealizable sources"? Those were just comic scenes...
That you aparently don't even know the context of.
Again, pretty presumptuous. I do know the context of them. Also, @noone301994 used Banes famous batbreaker as an argument, when Batman had to face sickness, extreme violence whilst fighting all the Arkham inmates, and mental health problems because of fear gas, and all the Arkham inmates escaping. Not only that, but he used cover art to justify his opinion. So apparently your bro here doesn't understand the context...
If you actually did, you wouldn't be saying that the two KK fights were "wins" for Bats.
See here I was just an average joe, thinking Batman would lose to Captain America, but when in reality, Batman could take on the Justice League WITHOUT prep.
@username12345: Ok, I'm done. I'm not playing the "it happened once in a comic, so it can't be bad writing" debate I'm having with you right now. Especially when you aren't even responding to my questions. If you can't see how broken your logic is then I bid you a good day.
@username12345: If we used your logic by spamming scans : You see , in the scan you've used , Bats is only punching Diana , yet in this scan , Bats is already KO and Diana is literally standing on him . With all respect , your blind love for Batman is why most people in here don't take Batman fans seriously .
That depends on if Iron Fist can use his chi amps or not, if not, then there's quite a bit of characters who have a good chance of beating him: Azrael, Batman, Black Panther, Captain America, Cassandra Cain, Daredevil, Deathstroke, Lady Shiva, and a few others...if he can use his chi amps, then very few can, if any.
Lol, "Batman has beat up Cassandra Cain twice" lol, *context it's a funny thing* the user: "Username12345" is talking about a instance when Cass and Bruce were talking through fighting, because Cass couldn't talk at all at the time...and another instance, a sparring/training-session that they had when Cass didn't had her Body-Reading, that he writter used to show how important the Body-Reading was for Cassandra's character, and when Cass got it back, she asked him to hit her, and dodged all of his attacks effortlessy...not to mention a instance where Cass alowed Batman to punch her, and she kept standing still while asking him for more, at one point Batman stopped and stared at her in disbelif.
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