Dont tell me Midnighter or Karate Kid cause they are not.
The characters use choose cannot use any special gadgets such as armors that increase speed or any like that.
Zoom. *troll face*
In all seriousness, street levelers aren't exactly my forte. However, I've always believed Black Panther (with his herb of course), to be the quintessential street leveler. I'd be willing to stipulate that given the right conditions, T'Challa could defeat Mister X. The current Moon Knight might prove too much for Mister X as well, but I could be mistaken.
Zoom. *troll face* In all seriousness, street levelers aren't exactly my forte. However, I've always placed Black Panther (with his herb of course), as the quintessential street leveler. The current Moon Knight might prove too much for Mister X as well, but I could be mistaken.1.You think Black Panther can beat him? Because even with the herb he's not physically beyond Wolverine and he has no mental defense.
@Illuminatus said:1. I realize that. I figured that even without mental defenses, he would be able to out-skill X, but you know more about street levelers than I do, so I trust your opinion.Zoom. *troll face* In all seriousness, street levelers aren't exactly my forte. However, I've always placed Black Panther (with his herb of course), as the quintessential street leveler. The current Moon Knight might prove too much for Mister X as well, but I could be mistaken.1.You think Black Panther can beat him? Because even with the herb he's not physically beyond Wolverine and he has no mental defense. 2.What changed about Moon Knight?
@Illuminatus: Black Panther hasnt got any chance at all,believe me.He isnt in any way better than Wolverine and his fighting skills arent superior to Mr Xs
As for Moon Knight,he cannot even defeat Daredevil and you think he can keep up with Mr X?
Even if he is completely psychotic and Mr X cannot read his mind,he can just beat him to death because he is a lot better fighter.
Yeah, like I said, street levelers aren't characters I have extensive knowledge about. I was just tossing ideas out there, and I was happy to be proven wrong. After all, it would only serve to increase my knowledge of them.@Illuminatus: Black Panther hasnt got any chance at all,believe me.He isnt in any way better than Wolverine and his fighting skills arent superior to Mr Xs
As for Moon Knight,he cannot even defeat Daredevil and you think he can keep up with Mr X?
Even if he is completely psychotic and Mr X cannot read his mind,he can just beat him to death because he is a lot better fighter.
@Illuminatus said:
@Stronger said:Yeah, like I said, street levelers aren't characters I have extensive knowledge about. I was just tossing ideas out there, and I was happy to be proven wrong. After all, it would only serve to increase my knowledge of them. Do any street levelers even have an inherent defense against telepathy?@Illuminatus: Black Panther hasnt got any chance at all,believe me.He isnt in any way better than Wolverine and his fighting skills arent superior to Mr Xs
As for Moon Knight,he cannot even defeat Daredevil and you think he can keep up with Mr X?
Even if he is completely psychotic and Mr X cannot read his mind,he can just beat him to death because he is a lot better fighter.
I am happy to see some people are thinking that way.You are a really positive person.
Deadpool is resistant to any kind of telepathy as far as I remeber.
@Vance Astro said:What makes you think BP is more skilled than him?@Illuminatus said:1. I realize that. I figured that even without mental defenses, he would be able to out-skill X, but you know more about street levelers than I do, so I trust your opinion. 2. He's completely psychotic. I figured that X would find it difficult to read him and counter his attacks, but again, I could be wrong.Zoom. *troll face* In all seriousness, street levelers aren't exactly my forte. However, I've always placed Black Panther (with his herb of course), as the quintessential street leveler. The current Moon Knight might prove too much for Mister X as well, but I could be mistaken.1.You think Black Panther can beat him? Because even with the herb he's not physically beyond Wolverine and he has no mental defense. 2.What changed about Moon Knight?
I appreciate that.@Illuminatus said:
@Stronger said:Yeah, like I said, street levelers aren't characters I have extensive knowledge about. I was just tossing ideas out there, and I was happy to be proven wrong. After all, it would only serve to increase my knowledge of them. Do any street levelers even have an inherent defense against telepathy?@Illuminatus: Black Panther hasnt got any chance at all,believe me.He isnt in any way better than Wolverine and his fighting skills arent superior to Mr Xs
As for Moon Knight,he cannot even defeat Daredevil and you think he can keep up with Mr X?
Even if he is completely psychotic and Mr X cannot read his mind,he can just beat him to death because he is a lot better fighter.
I am happy to see some people are thinking that way.You are a really positive person.
Deadpool is resistant to any kind of telepathy as far as I remeber.
@Illuminatus said:Reading your arguments in the BP vs. Shang Chi thread..@Vance Astro said:What makes you think BP is more skilled than him?@Illuminatus said:1. I realize that. I figured that even without mental defenses, he would be able to out-skill X, but you know more about street levelers than I do, so I trust your opinion. 2. He's completely psychotic. I figured that X would find it difficult to read him and counter his attacks, but again, I could be wrong.Zoom. *troll face* In all seriousness, street levelers aren't exactly my forte. However, I've always placed Black Panther (with his herb of course), as the quintessential street leveler. The current Moon Knight might prove too much for Mister X as well, but I could be mistaken.1.You think Black Panther can beat him? Because even with the herb he's not physically beyond Wolverine and he has no mental defense. 2.What changed about Moon Knight?
M'kay. Well, he is resistant to telepathy. And he's agile to boot.@Illuminatus said:
@god_spawn said:Does he even count as a street leveler anymore?Gambit.
I don't see why not. If people can still call Wolverine street level, then Gambit can be too. If it is full powered Gambit, then no.
Reading your arguments in the BP vs. Shang Chi thread..BP would probably break Shang Chi off by I think X is more skilled than him.
@Illuminatus said:Hurm. Well, lesson learned, I suppose.Reading your arguments in the BP vs. Shang Chi thread..BP would probably break Shang Chi off by I think X is more skilled than him.
@Illuminatus said:
@god_spawn said:M'kay. Well, he is resistant to telepathy. And he's agile to boot.@Illuminatus said:
@god_spawn said:Does he even count as a street leveler anymore?Gambit.
I don't see why not. If people can still call Wolverine street level, then Gambit can be too. If it is full powered Gambit, then no.
And he generally prefers distance which eliminates X's main advantage of h2h. Also the explosions have an area effect and Gambit tends to throw multiple at once, X is gonna be hard pressed to dodge or get caught eventually which sets Remy up. And speaking of his agility, Gambit is agile and fast enough to keep that distance. If he goes h2h against X, then Gambit will be in trouble.
@Illuminatus said:
@Stronger said:I appreciate that. Yes, but Deadpool is...well...Deadpool. It would take a miracle for him to fight seriously.@Illuminatus said:
@Stronger said:Yeah, like I said, street levelers aren't characters I have extensive knowledge about. I was just tossing ideas out there, and I was happy to be proven wrong. After all, it would only serve to increase my knowledge of them. Do any street levelers even have an inherent defense against telepathy?@Illuminatus: Black Panther hasnt got any chance at all,believe me.He isnt in any way better than Wolverine and his fighting skills arent superior to Mr Xs
As for Moon Knight,he cannot even defeat Daredevil and you think he can keep up with Mr X?
Even if he is completely psychotic and Mr X cannot read his mind,he can just beat him to death because he is a lot better fighter.
I am happy to see some people are thinking that way.You are a really positive person.
Deadpool is resistant to any kind of telepathy as far as I remeber.
Deadpool is a extremely strong h2h combatant if you ask me.
Would Daken and his pheromones be considered street level? Or would Daken be useless against X?@Illuminatus said:
@god_spawn said:M'kay. Well, he is resistant to telepathy. And he's agile to boot.@Illuminatus said:
@god_spawn said:Does he even count as a street leveler anymore?Gambit.
I don't see why not. If people can still call Wolverine street level, then Gambit can be too. If it is full powered Gambit, then no.
And he generally prefers distance which eliminates X's main advantage of h2h. Also the explosions have an area effect and Gambit tends to throw multiple at once, X is gonna be hard pressed to dodge or get caught eventually which sets Remy up. And speaking of his agility, Gambit is agile and fast enough to keep that distance. If he goes h2h against X, then Gambit will be in trouble.
The potential is definitely there for Deadpool to be one of the top H2h fighters, but if he's in character against X, he most likely wouldn't take the fight seriously. But then again, if you gave Deadpool his katanas and a reason/the will to be serious, he could maybe take X.@Illuminatus said:
@Stronger said:I appreciate that. Yes, but Deadpool is...well...Deadpool. It would take a miracle for him to fight seriously.@Illuminatus said:
@Stronger said:Yeah, like I said, street levelers aren't characters I have extensive knowledge about. I was just tossing ideas out there, and I was happy to be proven wrong. After all, it would only serve to increase my knowledge of them. Do any street levelers even have an inherent defense against telepathy?@Illuminatus: Black Panther hasnt got any chance at all,believe me.He isnt in any way better than Wolverine and his fighting skills arent superior to Mr Xs
As for Moon Knight,he cannot even defeat Daredevil and you think he can keep up with Mr X?
Even if he is completely psychotic and Mr X cannot read his mind,he can just beat him to death because he is a lot better fighter.
I am happy to see some people are thinking that way.You are a really positive person.
Deadpool is resistant to any kind of telepathy as far as I remeber.
Deadpool is a extremely strong h2h combatant if you ask me.
@ReVamp said:
- Deadpool
- Black Canary
- Psylocke (if she's street level)
Deadpool is getting wrecked.His fighting skills are nowhere near Mister Xs
Same goes for Black Canary.
Psylocke can win but it wont be easy.
@mextli: I think Fantomex is street leveler.
As for Gambit,I think he cant block mind reading.
@Stronger said:
@ReVamp said:
- Deadpool
- Black Canary
- Psylocke (if she's street level)
Deadpool is getting wrecked.His fighting skills are nowhere near Mister Xs
Same goes for Black Canary.
Psylocke can win but it wont be easy.
@ReVamp: 1:Deadpool isnt as good fighter as Mister X,thats a fact.Mister X will beat him like he did to Wolverine.
2:Songbird lost to Mr X if I remember correctly.
3;Psylocke isnt street level.@Illuminatus: Even if Deadpool was serious he wouldnt defeat X.
@Renny said:
Gambit does have tp resistance
If you can prove it then,I am with you.
@Stronger said:
@ReVamp: 1:Deadpool isnt as good fighter as Mister X,thats a fact.Mister X will beat him like he did to Wolverine.
2:Songbird lost to Mr X if I remember correctly.
3;Psylocke isnt street level.@Illuminatus: Even if Deadpool was serious he wouldnt defeat X.
@Renny said:
Gambit does have tp resistanceIf you can prove it then,I am with you.
But no skill.@Morpheus_ said:
@Hohenheim_of_light said:If Shiva's showings against Archer Braun are anything to go by, X would kill her in 5 seconds.Shiva or Batgirl could probably have a fairly even fight with him.
Didn't he have the exact same abilities that X did?
@Vance Astro said:yup.@Illuminatus said:Hurm. Well, lesson learned, I suppose. Thanks for being civil about it.Reading your arguments in the BP vs. Shang Chi thread..BP would probably break Shang Chi off by I think X is more skilled than him.
@Hohenheim_of_light: I don't think it's bogus because Iron Fist was using a style where he would throw his strikes completely by muscle memory. Iron Fist was not aware of what strikes he would throw, he just did them and that rendered Mister X's powers mute.
I think it's believable that Iron Fist completely practiced this style to be so unpredictable to even himself. Also, quicksilver tagged Mister X, and Iron Fist with his chi could perform a feat similar if needed. And his his limbs are Iron Hard, Mister X's swords would be shattered to pieces.
These are my choices for who could win against him:
1. Katana
2. Karnak
3. Kitty Pryde
I know all their names start with a K, don't judge me.
@texasdeathmatch said:
@SlimJ87D: @Hohenheim_of_light: You guys wouldn't happen to have those scans of the Mister X and Iron Fist fight, would y'all?
He was ambushed by all the Tunderbolts and was kicking a lot of ass. But it shows that Ku'n Lun practices ways to fight against telepaths so they have ideas on how to fight a telepath.
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