#1 Edited by Vouile (678 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules: What makes a street-level character/superhero?

A street-level character/superhero...

  • fights crime street-level threats frequently and consistently.
  • fights world-wide or city threats on occasion(once-in-a-while).
  • can not defeat a (surrounding) group of machine-gun-armed (20 or more) men in a random encounter in a room, with standard equipment.

If you would like to add more legit rules to this list please respond to this forum. =3 :D

Random Encounter

  1. Black Canary
  2. Ultimate Captain America
  3. Batman
  4. Captain America
  5. Ultimate Hawkeye
  6. Cassandra Cain
  7. Daredevil
  8. Winter Soldier
  9. Nightwing
  10. Red Hood
  11. Green Arrow
  12. Hawkeye
  13. Red Robin (Tim Drake)

Preparation

~ Batman

~ Spider-man

~ Red Hood

~ Nightwing

~Tim Drake

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(This thread needs to be moved to the General Discussion forums, sorry!)

love❤,

Vouile

#2 Posted by Agent9149 (2890 posts) - - Show Bio

no midnighter?

#3 Edited by Vouile (678 posts) - - Show Bio

@Agent9149 said:

no midnighter?

I don't know if he counts...He's a pretty over-powered, BUT I'll add him! Thanks! =3

#4 Posted by Sorceror_Swift (535 posts) - - Show Bio

A street-level character/superhero...

  • fights crime street-level threats frequently and consistently.
  • fights world-wide or city threats on occasion(once-in-a-while).
  • can not defeat a group of machine-gun-armed (6-8 or more) men in a random encounter, with standard equipment.

.........

  • Yes, Midnighter does.
  • Quite consistently
  • Midnighter can.....

.......Yeah, so.....hrmmm.....

#5 Posted by Jayfournines (4024 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vouile said:

@Agent9149 said:

no midnighter?

I don't know if he counts...He's a pretty over-powered, BUT I'll add him! Thanks! =3

Mate, Midnighter is well over street level. I don't think he should be included. Just my two cents though.

#6 Posted by Vouile (678 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sorceror_Swift said:

A street-level character/superhero...

  • fights crime street-level threats frequently and consistently.
  • fights world-wide or city threats on occasion(once-in-a-while).
  • can not defeat a group of machine-gun-armed (6-8 or more) men in a random encounter, with standard equipment.

.........

  • Yes, Midnighter does.
  • Quite consistently
  • Midnighter can.....

.......Yeah, so.....hrmmm.....

@Jayfournines said:

@Vouile said:

@Agent9149 said:

no midnighter?

I don't know if he counts...He's a pretty over-powered, BUT I'll add him! Thanks! =3

Mate, Midnighter is well over street level. I don't think he should be included. Just my two cents though.

You guys are correct. =3 I looked him up, sorry about that...

#7 Posted by Sorceror_Swift (535 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vouile: It's fine. Some people don't know, everyone gets one.

#8 Posted by YoungJustice (6648 posts) - - Show Bio

Im pretty sure everyone in the Random Encounter list can easily solo 6-8 machine gun thugs.

#9 Posted by Vouile (678 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sorceror_Swift said:

It's fine. Some people don't know, everyone gets one.

Thanks.

@YoungJustice said:

Im pretty sure everyone in the Random Encounter list can easily solo 6-8 machine gun thugs.

How would Robin go about doing it? Spider-man can probably take out 4, 5 maximum, but that's about it.

Vouile

#10 Posted by Agent9149 (2890 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sorceror_Swift said:

A street-level character/superhero...

  • fights crime street-level threats frequently and consistently.
  • fights world-wide or city threats on occasion(once-in-a-while).
  • can not defeat a group of machine-gun-armed (6-8 or more) men in a random encounter, with standard equipment.

.........

  • Yes, Midnighter does.
  • Quite consistently
  • Midnighter can.....

.......Yeah, so.....hrmmm.....

then how does wolverine fits into that

#11 Posted by CountofMC (131 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't have too much to add and I know the dividing line for what constitutes street level can be rather arbitrary but in my mind I've always considered Spiderman pretty much the limit for a street level character. His powerset is somewhat versatile so he's capable of fighting with some higher level characters and at the same time, with his speed and spider sense, he can comfortably dance around the standard street levelers like Punisher, etc.

#12 Edited by Hksaru (463 posts) - - Show Bio

BP with his equipment and more importantly armor should be able to take the gunmen, and he doesn't fight street level threats. Batman is street-level but he also ranks higher and I'm sure he would take it similar to BP. Spider-man should be able to easily get out of the gunmen's surround depending on the setting then pick them apart, though he is top-notch street level, fo real.

#13 Posted by laflux (13777 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vouile said:

@Sorceror_Swift said:

It's fine. Some people don't know, everyone gets one.

Thanks.

@YoungJustice said:

Im pretty sure everyone in the Random Encounter list can easily solo 6-8 machine gun thugs.

How would Robin go about doing it? Spider-man can probably take out 4, 5 maximum, but that's about it.

Vouile

I'm sorry that's false. Spider-Man continually wrecks dozens of thugs with automatic weapons with no effort. He's defeated 120 trained men (trained by taskmaster) armed with Swords and lasers guns, and called it a warm up. I've got multiple scans to completely disprove what you just said.

#14 Edited by Shawnbaby (10387 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vouile said:

@Sorceror_Swift said:

It's fine. Some people don't know, everyone gets one.

Thanks.

@YoungJustice said:

Im pretty sure everyone in the Random Encounter list can easily solo 6-8 machine gun thugs.

How would Robin go about doing it? Spider-man can probably take out 4, 5 maximum, but that's about it.

Vouile

O rly?

#15 Posted by Saren (25241 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vouile said:

A street-level character/superhero...

  • can not defeat a (surrounding) group of machine-gun-armed (7 or more) men in a random encounter, with standard equipment.

In a comic book? Damian Wayne can do this.

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#16 Posted by Sorceror_Swift (535 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

@Vouile said:

A street-level character/superhero...

  • can not defeat a (surrounding) group of machine-gun-armed (7 or more) men in a random encounter, with standard equipment.

In a comic book? Damian Wayne can do this.

It's Tim Drake...Who also can.

#17 Posted by Vouile (678 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sorceror_Swift: @CitizenBane: @Shawnbaby: @laflux: @Hksaru: @CountofMC: @Agent9149: @YoungJustice:

How does the original post look?

I have removed Spider-man, Agent Venom, Wolverine and Black Panther. Their speed, agility, strength and durability and other factors put them somewhere not-too-far above the street-level range.

If the original post requires changes, please tell me so. Thank you. ^-^

Vouile

#18 Posted by Malonius (883 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vouile: Street Level characters usually fight street crime, especially organized crime, but also terrorist groups as well. They are vigilantes with tense relationships with the police. I divide "Street Level" power levels into two sub-categories:

1. Peak Human: These characters can achieve the highest human feats perfectly and consistently on the fly with no prep. They are like Olympic champions, elite Special Forces soldiers, top MMA title-holders, and top Hollywood stunt drivers all rolled into one all on their very best days. They're also usually incredibly lucky and a genius in more than one area. This level would include most of the Bat-family and guys like the Punisher.

2. Enhanced Peak Human: These characters are like the previous sub-category except they have a single, simple meta-human enhancement. Daredevil's enhanced senses or Captain America's enhanced metabolism fall into this category.

Wolverine is at the very top of what I'd be willing to describe as "Street Level", but I'd probably put him in the next category. His adamantium and his association with the Avengers raise his level beyond where he'd be if he just had his bone claws and healing factor. Wolverine and Cyclops are both great examples of characters with massive offensive/defensive differentials making them hard to judge. Wolverine's durability is way beyond his unprepped offensive capability while Cyclops could destroy a town, but could get knocked out by a lucky punch in a bar fight.

The next level up I call "Block Busters." Spider-man and Luke Cage are perfect examples of this level. These people can throw cars and are not in any real danger from a regular person with a regular gun.

#19 Posted by laflux (13777 posts) - - Show Bio

@Malonius said:

@Vouile: Street Level characters usually fight street crime, especially organized crime, but also terrorist groups as well. They are vigilantes with tense relationships with the police. I divide "Street Level" power levels into two sub-categories:

1. Peak Human: These characters can achieve the highest human feats perfectly and consistently on the fly with no prep. They are like Olympic champions, elite Special Forces soldiers, top MMA title-holders, and top Hollywood stunt drivers all rolled into one all on their very best days. They're also usually incredibly lucky and a genius in more than one area. This level would include most of the Bat-family and guys like the Punisher.

2. Enhanced Peak Human: These characters are like the previous sub-category except they have a single, simple meta-human enhancement. Daredevil's enhanced senses or Captain America's enhanced metabolism fall into this category.

Wolverine is at the very top of what I'd be willing to describe as "Street Level", but I'd probably put him in the next category. His adamantium and his association with the Avengers raise his level beyond where he'd be if he just had his bone claws and healing factor. Wolverine and Cyclops are both great examples of characters with massive offensive/defensive differentials making them hard to judge. Wolverine's durability is way beyond his unprepped offensive capability while Cyclops could destroy a town, but could get knocked out by a lucky punch in a bar fight.

The next level up I call "Block Busters." Spider-man and Luke Cage are perfect examples of this level. These people can throw cars and are not in any real danger from a regular person with a regular gun.

Good analysis, but I'd put Logan in Blockbuster by your analogy as well. His claws, even Bone ones, give him very good offensive capabilities, and with his speed and healing factor, he is not in any real danger from a regular guy with a gun either (Unless it has carbodium ammo).

#20 Posted by Vouile (678 posts) - - Show Bio
#21 Posted by Skaddix (3109 posts) - - Show Bio

Need a 4th Level: Fake Street Levelers. For guys like Midnighter (WS), Gorgon (Marvel) and Azrael (Lane, DC). Might also but Spider-man on this level but he is probably 3 except when bloodlusted then he should be here.